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Deus Voltage
By Deus Voltage
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1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

7nm with next generation Architectures will be the big jumps, but that's years off.

They landed where some of us expected, the only question will be the tiers below them. They should see a nice bump in performance per tier, but Nvidia looks like they want people to pay more right now for already available ability.

This is actually good strategy, all of people want fancy things NOW!

 

 

*good for nvidia

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1 minute ago, Gawron10001 said:

This is actually good strategy, all of people want fancy things NOW!

 

 

*good for nvidia

Reality is that we've got almost 70 years of Silicon-based technology that you get pay either the slightly more for improve ability or less for roughly previous ability. Nvidia will see a lot of sales, but anyone on a 1070 or below pretty much has zero reason to upgrade. Heck, anyone on a 970 should look for a used 1080.

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3 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Without the extra RTX features enabled at launch, exactly what would be the point of buying this card in the here and now?

Having the latest and greatest, I guess

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1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Reality is that we've got almost 70 years of Silicon-based technology that you get pay either the slightly more for improve ability or less for roughly previous ability. Nvidia will see a lot of sales, but anyone on a 1070 or below pretty much has zero reason to upgrade. Heck, anyone on a 970 should look for a used 1080.

Peps with 1070 or higher will upgrade instantly, rest of them will wait 2-3 generations to upgrade, i'm one of thoose peps soooooo, yeah

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26 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

 

@leadeater first big sign of the Async helping a lot.

That’s probably because Turing is a new architecture that actually has a sync in it. As maxwell and pascal were the same thing and didn’t 

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Nvidia looks like Intel, ask for a lot and give little in return. Come on all this wait for this? They need competition.

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11 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

7nm with next generation Architectures will be the big jumps, but that's years off.

They landed where some of us expected, the only question will be the tiers below them. They should see a nice bump in performance per tier, but Nvidia looks like they want people to pay more right now for already available ability.

AMDs gonna be on 7nm this year

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So 2080 pretty much matches 1080ti.

 

That's one of the theories I had until someone told me how 980ti = 1070 and henceforth the 2080 would comfortably beat it.

 

Effectively, these cards are basically one tier of pricing higher for one tier of performance increase lower vs previous generations.

 

Conclusion is that they're fucking shit. Sorry no 2 ways about it. Only the 2080ti is worth it for rich people that demand 100+hz at 4k on the latest and greatest games and that's well, unnecessary imho.

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lol at the bitching

its better than many gen jumps just not previous maxwell/pascal jumps

but thats still leaving out rt and dlss

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1 minute ago, pas008 said:

lol at the bitching

its better than many gen jumps just not previous maxwell/pascal jumps

but thats still leaving out rt and dlss

"leaving out RT and DLSS" and who's fucking fault is that?

 

Who put all their eggs on the new tech basket and rushed a release relying on the infamously and notoriously unreliable game devs?

 

Hint: They like the color green.

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Just now, BuckGup said:

AMDs gonna be on 7nm this year

"Next generation Architectures" will be whatever is post-Navi and post-Turing/Ampere. Rather than iterations on existing Architectures, I'm talking about the brand new ones, with ground-up approaches built upon the new I/O and system bases. GPUs have tend to do the Big Boost -> Iterate bit more than CPUs have, historically.

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Just now, Misanthrope said:

"leaving out RT and DLSS" and who's fucking fault is that?

 

Who put all their eggs on the new tech basket and rushed a release relying on the infamously and notoriously unreliable game devs?

 

Hint: They like the color green.

what are you talking about

many companies release shit without it being completely utilized

lol amd fine wine? hahahaha

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Just finished watching the Hardware Unboxed video.

 

Jesus, that's really not good value at current market prices. Given that RTX won't even come out until October, I just really can't wrap my head around these prices.

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3 minutes ago, pas008 said:

what are you talking about

many companies release shit without it being completely utilized

lol amd fine wine? hahahaha

Doesn't mean it's any less unacceptable for NVIDIA.

 

The RTX 20's key feature is literally the name of the GPU series. If it's not ready for launch, then it's not ready, period.

 

So as of now, it's a decent gain over Pascal but at much higher premiums, it ends up being worse value than even a Radeon RX Vega 64 at current market prices.

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Doesn't mean it's any less unacceptable for NVIDIA.

 

The RTX 20's key feature is literally the name of the GPU. If it's not ready for launch, then it's not ready, period.

what the heck does that have to do with new product though

this is offering 30% and new features once they are done

 

just like dx10 11 and 12 shit

 

 

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Looks disappointing

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what the heck does that have to do with new product though

this is offering 30% and new features once they are done

 

Except that “once they are done” isn’t a valid reason to go out and recommend the thing.

 

I’d hold out and wait but after watching the reviews, honestly, it’s a mixed bag.

 

RTX 2080 Ti is an absolute beast but it also costs an absolute fuckton at current market prices. And the RTX 2080 is honestly “meh”. Not when you can get a 1080 Ti for probably less and end up with the same performance if you don’t care for RTX.

 

And both cards at current market prices are just really mediocre when it comes to value.

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I have pulled the data from a Polish site with benchmarks of 11 games and it seems that the 2080ti is about 36% faster than 1080ti in 1440p and about 39-40% faster in 4K. Didn't bother with 1080p because who cares about that with those cards.

 

This is a nice bump but not enough for me to consider switching. Good news for me is that with the performance as it is I can be reasonably sure that the next gen GPU will be a 100% order for me.

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17 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

RTX 2080 Ti is an absolute beast but it also costs an absolute fuckton at current market prices.

Well seeing how people were more than comfortable spending $2k+ on a 1080 during the mining craze, they know the money is there and what people are willing to pay (yes it was about money)

 

I guarantee if people were'nt paying what they did for cards earlier this year, RTX prices would be in the 6-700 range. 

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26 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

AMDs gonna be on 7nm this year

can you even buy a datacenter card by the unit, even if you can the prices will be insane after all you will be paying for a massive 7nm die with 4 stacks of expensive memory 

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37 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Except that “once they are done” isn’t a valid reason to go out and recommend the thing.

 

I’d hold out and wait but after watching the reviews, honestly, it’s a mixed bag.

 

RTX 2080 Ti is an absolute beast but it also costs an absolute fuckton at current market prices. And the RTX 2080 is honestly “meh”. Not when you can get a 1080 Ti for probably less and end up with the same performance if you don’t care for RTX.

 

And both cards at current market prices are just really mediocre when it comes to value.

agreed but just like the titan series beasts but really worth it?

once the 2070 releases I'll take closer look at these cards considering by then we will see them optimized fully and

how far along dlss came along

 

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51 minutes ago, Valermos said:

 

2080 non Ti isn't worth it at all, and the Ti is.... well I just don't want to spend that much on a gpu again. not for ~15% improvement.

Yep, its kinda weird...

2080 perf = 1080ti is good, and historically expected (the 10 series had a bigger jump, but still)

But 2080 price = 1080ti ?? Why?? For me it feels like a rebrand (though I know its not). Guess we have to wait for the RTX stuff to come out to see if the 2080 is worth it, because right now its just a 1080ti.

 

Also the most interesting card (the 2070) is not out yet, and the 70 is always the best value for the high end.

Ultra is stupid. ALWAYS.

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