Car Enthusiast Club [Now Motorcycle friendly!] - First thread to 150k! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Letgomyleghoe]

7 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Ya'll really ain't heard of Blackstone Labs? SEND YOUR OIL IN TO GET ANALYZED! At least once per year, it can catch impending doom and tell you if you're changing it often enough or can go further on the changes.

no lol, there's test strips you can get if you're worried about gas or water in your oil, and you can always look with a magnifying glass to see if there's bits of metal. 

[Bitter]

8 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

no lol, there's test strips you can get if you're worried about gas or water in your oil, and you can always look with a magnifying glass to see if there's bits of metal. 

That's the equivalent of tasting your piss to see if you got diabeetus.

https://www.blackstone-labs.com/

They use a mass spec to read actual contents of the oil, not just guessing if the metal is iron, aluminum, of babbit.

 

[vetali]

17 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Ya'll really ain't heard of Blackstone Labs? SEND YOUR OIL IN TO GET ANALYZED! At least once per year, it can catch impending doom and tell you if you're changing it often enough or can go further on the changes.

Its under warranty. I really don't care lol.

[Letgomyleghoe]

1 minute ago, Bitter said:

That's the equivalent of tasting your piss to see if you got diabeetus.

https://www.blackstone-labs.com/

They use a mass spec to read actual contents of the oil, not just guessing if the metal is iron, aluminum, of babbit.

understandable, still couldn't see myself doing it as I don't own anything worth a shit. 

[bcredeur97]

I could see myself doing it on something like those BMW’s that have bearing issues and multi-thousand dollar engines

 

but yeah I don’t have anything that fancy...

[atxcyclist]

21 minutes ago, Bitter said:

That's the equivalent of tasting your piss to see if you got diabeetus.

https://www.blackstone-labs.com/

They use a mass spec to read actual contents of the oil, not just guessing if the metal is iron, aluminum, of babbit.

 

While I appreciate the effort here, this is hardcore science for expensive and/or race engines. Most people derping around day to day will gain almost nothing from this. Even an average wrencher should be able to look, smell, and feel oil, coolant, and examine spark plugs to tell how a car is doing. Well enough to keep it on the road at least, maybe not run a 12 hour, 150 MPH endurance race.

[Bitter]

But it's really not and it's not expensive either. I send in sample for either of my sub $6,000 cars from time to time just to see how they're holding up and if I need to take any corrective action before it costs me an engine. They can test any oil, transmission, hydraulic, etc. I'd rather catch something while it's cheap to fix like a loose air filter box (high silicon and elevated iron) than later when I've got a scored cylinder with low compression.

[atxcyclist]

6 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

I could see myself doing it on something like those BMW’s that have bearing issues and multi-thousand dollar engines

 

but yeah I don’t have anything that fancy...

I knew a guy with a nikasil engine in his BMW, he was insufferable about gas and all the other stuff associated with it.

[Bitter]

11 minutes ago, atxcyclist said:

I knew a guy with a nikasil engine in his BMW, he was insufferable about gas and all the other stuff associated with it.

You kind of needed to be, if that coating was damaged it was a real nightmare. Some mopes and scooters had nikasil liners in them too, also a real pain to deal with when they wear. I've got an engine with MMC cylinders myself, not nearly as sensitive or failure prone but you can't trust that anyone has done anything correctly if you're buying a block that's not right from the dealer or you just have to get it sleeved but then you're dealing with the possibility of a dropped sleeve.

[iDeFecZx]

Meanwhile I've only ever serviced 1 of my cars (out of 7 so far) and that was just after i got it, purely cause the last service record on it was 2016 

[Real_PhillBert]

13 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

You're destroying the environment, gosh.

I live in ND; I'm rooting for global warming.

[chaozbandit]

 

[bcredeur97]

18 hours ago, Bitter said:

But it's really not and it's not expensive either. I send in sample for either of my sub $6,000 cars from time to time just to see how they're holding up and if I need to take any corrective action before it costs me an engine. They can test any oil, transmission, hydraulic, etc. I'd rather catch something while it's cheap to fix like a loose air filter box (high silicon and elevated iron) than later when I've got a scored cylinder with low compression.

25 samples = 1 engine (prob)

[AlwaysFSX]

12 hours ago, Real_PhillBert said:

I live in ND; I'm rooting for global warming.

Naw what we should do instead is shovel the ground out of the Dakotas at least a couple hundred feet deep and turn them in to another great lake.

[Letgomyleghoe]

22 hours ago, Bitter said:

But it's really not and it's not expensive either. I send in sample for either of my sub $6,000 cars from time to time just to see how they're holding up and if I need to take any corrective action before it costs me an engine. They can test any oil, transmission, hydraulic, etc. I'd rather catch something while it's cheap to fix like a loose air filter box (high silicon and elevated iron) than later when I've got a scored cylinder with low compression.

my car is, well to be frank, sub 2000. 

[Bitter]

4 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

25 samples = 1 engine (prob)

It's $30 for the sample testing and test kits are free. Maybe you can get a good junkyard engine for some cars for $750. That's why I suggest once maybe twice a year (once every 10,000 or so miles).

[bcredeur97]

1 hour ago, Bitter said:

It's $30 for the sample testing and test kits are free. Maybe you can get a good junkyard engine for some cars for $750. That's why I suggest once maybe twice a year (once every 10,000 or so miles).

I thought it was $40 I was thinking $1k 

 

but even then... you find you have metal in your oil. What does that mean for your old commuter car? Prob just gonna get another engine anyway since rebuilds usually aren’t worth the effort and can go wrong.

 

only thing it changes is you know before it disentegrates completely. 
 

but I do totally understand for a special car you love or something more expensive. Just not something common & cheap. 
 

especially since 30 oil samples is 300k miles and you can or almost can buy a used engine instead of 30 oil samples in that time frame. 

[Bitter]

3 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

I thought it was $40 I was thinking $1k 

 

but even then... you find you have metal in your oil. What does that mean for your old commuter car? Prob just gonna get another engine anyway since rebuilds usually aren’t worth the effort and can go wrong.

 

only thing it changes is you know before it disentegrates completely. 
 

but I do totally understand for a special car you love or something more expensive. Just not something common & cheap. 
 

especially since 30 oil samples is 300k miles and you can or almost can buy a used engine instead of 30 oil samples in that time frame. 

Ample time to trade it in! A little metal once isn't a big deal, I had elevated iron twice. Once a rip in my air filter frame letting dirt in and another time it was a loose air intake resonator clamp letting dirt in. Both times it was a small issue I'd probably have never noticed but overtime would have damaged the engine. I need to do a sample this year, I haven't in a while. $50 in tests probably extended the life of the engine substantially by reducing wear on it.

 

My Celica always comes back looking great and I hope that continues, it's mostly for that car that I do them once in a while to spot check it. Mazda I do just so I know if there's incoming problems or anything terrible going on so I can dump it while I still can.

[the gamer that is bad]

what would be a good first car/project car for a high schooler with to much time and resources all the cars i have access to are to nice

[bcredeur97]

12 minutes ago, the gamer that is bad said:

what would be a good first car/project car for a high schooler with to much time and resources all the cars i have access to are to nice

anything Japanese from the 80's, 90's or 00's

 

they all old and need work at this point

[the gamer that is bad]

1 minute ago, bcredeur97 said:

anything Japanese from the 80's, 90's or 00's

 

they all old and need work at this point

question can i 350 swap them because i have an old racing chevy 350 

[bcredeur97]

6 minutes ago, the gamer that is bad said:

question can i 350 swap them because i have an old racing chevy 350 

you can swap anything into anything. Whether it's worth it or not is another story

[the gamer that is bad]

Just now, bcredeur97 said:

you can swap anything into anything. Whether it's worth it or not is another story

well we have an entire auto shop lifts in all and me being the idiot i am you can bet i will send it down the highway

[Bitter]

If you want to put a chevy 350 in something start with a chevy something or other, maybe a Blazer or S10 pickup.

[vetali]

Yeah S10 is about your best option for a first build if you want to use a 350.