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[Arty]

I hope me and my Heavy long ass RWD e38 survive winter

[FuzzyYellow]

59 minutes ago, RevoltTrain said:

So the Saab actually calls for 90 Octane. Around here we have 87, 89, and either 91 or 93 depending on the station. So should I go for 89 and call it a day or spring for the extra bit of Octane? 

you'll probably be running 93 after the tune. i'd check to see which the car likes better.

 

fun fact: my accord will tune itself to give an extra 5hp if run on 91/93 octane. i'm too cheap to pay the $.40/ga. though.

[RatedBlam]

58 minutes ago, RevoltTrain said:

So the Saab actually calls for 90 Octane. Around here we have 87, 89, and either 91 or 93 depending on the station. So should I go for 89 and call it a day or spring for the extra bit of Octane? 

Is that 90 already converted to the octane rating you use in the US?  Or the other kind. 

[FuzzyYellow]

1 minute ago, RatedBlam said:

Is that 90 already converted to the octane rating you use in the US?  Or the other kind. 

good point. I forgot there was a difference.

[PandaCopyRight]

47 minutes ago, RatedBlam said:

Is that 90 already converted to the octane rating you use in the US?  Or the other kind. 

the 90 has to be the octane scale used in US ... cause here in Latvia the lowest octane number is 95

[Arri]

3 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

More people need this.

 

I sometimes take the outside lane when taking a right turn when I know I have right of way and the speed I'm going can't be done with the inside lane. Otherwise, you're right. This is how it should be done.

[AlwaysFSX]

4 minutes ago, Arri said:

I sometimes take the outside lane when taking a right turn when I know I have right of way and the speed I'm going can't be done with the inside lane. Otherwise, you're right. This is how it should be done.

You should never be going fast enough you can't make it in to the right lane while making a turn..?

[bcredeur97]

2 hours ago, RevoltTrain said:

So the Saab actually calls for 90 Octane. Around here we have 87, 89, and either 91 or 93 depending on the station. So should I go for 89 and call it a day or spring for the extra bit of Octane? 

mix 91 and 89. problem solved.

 

Honestly id put 91, the old car method of "just pull timing to compensate" is very unreliable IMO and requires the engine to knock before it does anything, best avoid it all-together! 

 

Plus what if you get a bad batch of gas? if the 91 you happen to put in happens to be 89 then that's waaaay better than if the 89 you put in happened to actually be 87...

[bcredeur97]

26 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

You should never be going fast enough you can't make it in to the right lane while making a turn..?

there is a couple of very strange intersections in my town where you are forced to at least put a wheel into the other lane to make the turn. annoying and bad design. 

 

Not a big deal though if you know where they are, just make sure both lanes are clear before you go

[bcredeur97]

46 minutes ago, Mister2010 said:

the 90 has to be the octane scale used in US ... cause here in Latvia the lowest octane number is 95

yeah RON vs AKI(aka R+M/2)

 

here in the US we use AKI. 

 

for example:
95 RON is 91 AKI

96 RON is 92 AKI

98 RON is 94 AKI

 

 

so you guys get 91 AKI octane as "low grade". for some US states(california) that's the highest grade you can get lol. Here in Louisiana you can get 97RON/93AKI everywhere for the most part (and that's the highest you can get afaik)

[terrytek]

4 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

yeah RON vs AKI(aka R+M/2)

 

here in the US we use AKI. 

 

for example:
95 RON is 91 AKI

96 RON is 92 AKI

98 RON is 94 AKI

 

 

so you guys get 91 AKI octane as "low grade". for some US states(california) that's the highest grade you can get lol. Here in Louisiana you can get 97RON/93AKI everywhere for the most part (and that's the highest you can get afaik)

canlifornia doesn't have anything higher than 91 AKI octane because of fuking emissions lmao. i hate california's emission standards.

[bcredeur97]

5 minutes ago, terrytek said:

canlifornia doesn't have anything higher than 91 AKI octane because of fuking emissions lmao. i hate california's emission standards.

Higher octane = worse emissions? 

 

Didnt know that...

 

you can get E85 in Cali though so that kind of makes up for it... (E85 is typically between 100-105 AKI Octane (105-111 RON)). Unfortunately E85 burns 30% quicker than normal gasoline so it's kind of annoying, also not to mention most cars aren't tuned for it by default so it's expensive to convert and get it and really make use of it.

[chaozbandit]

1 minute ago, bcredeur97 said:

Higher octane = worse emissions? 

 

Didnt know that...

 

you can get E85 in Cali though so that kind of makes up for it... (E85 is typically between 100-105 AKI Octane (105-111 RON)). Unfortunately E85 burns 30% quicker than normal gasoline so it's kind of annoying, also not to mention most cars aren't tuned for it by default so it's expensive to convert and get it and really make use of it.

Did someone say E85

 

 

[MEC-777]

3 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

More people need this.

 

A thousand times yes!

[Arri]

1 hour ago, AlwaysFSX said:

You should never be going fast enough you can't make it in to the right lane while making a turn..?

Not everyone has to slow down to 6mph to take a turn. Would you deem it dangerous for going the same speed when making a left turn? 

[bcredeur97]

22 minutes ago, chaozbandit said:

Did someone say E85

-snip-

 

Guise the Miata is getting a turbo and E85 tomorrow 

 

i wish... Lol

 

we actually are about to get a couple of Sunoco stations in town with E85 at the pump. Gonna be nice for that day far in the distance when I can actually use it

[chaozbandit]

3 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

Guise the Miata is getting a turbo and E85 tomorrow 

 

i wish... Lol

 

we actually are about to get a couple of Sunoco stations in town with E85 at the pump. Gonna be nice for that day far in the distance when I can actually use it

Nice! E85 is a great option for easy power provided you make the necessary supporting mods. And, you have a decent supply chain around you lol. The nearest E85 station to me that I know of is an hour away, which is the same distance to the nearest track but in the opposite direction. I'm better off tuning for 94 octane, or whatever VP Race Fuels can offer.

 

E85 on a lightly modified FA20 is good for 40-80hp alone. The effective "boost" is less noticeable on naturally aspirated engines though.

[AlwaysFSX]

31 minutes ago, Arri said:

Not everyone has to slow down to 6mph to take a turn. Would you deem it dangerous for going the same speed when making a left turn? 

You don't need to do 6mph to make a sharp right.

[Arri]

6 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

You don't need to do 6mph to make a sharp right.

Which is my point... by decreasing the turning radius, you can travel at a higher speed. 

 

I have Monday off but when I go to work on Tuesday, I'll report the maximum speed that can be taken (before understeer forces me to cross over the white line). You'll understand that it's perfectly safe, just as taking a left turn. Maybe I'm different but I don't use the same speed on a hard right than I do on a sweeping left.

[chaozbandit]

Turns out trees and rally cars don't mix.

 

 

@MEC-777

 

Both drivers side impacts. The Quebec Subaru would later end up retiring from the rally.

[AlwaysFSX]

56 minutes ago, Arri said:

Which is my point... by decreasing the turning radius, you can travel at a higher speed. 

 

I have Monday off but when I go to work on Tuesday, I'll report the maximum speed that can be taken (before understeer forces me to cross over the white line). You'll understand that it's perfectly safe, just as taking a left turn. Maybe I'm different but I don't use the same speed on a hard right than I do on a sweeping left.

I have absolutely no idea what you're saying.

[AlwaysFSX]

25 minutes ago, vinyldash303 said:

He's saying torque steer makes it more challenging to turn sharply one way vs the other

 

i think

I think you'll just end up confusing me more if I try to apply that to their statements.

[carguy86]

52 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

I have absolutely no idea what you're saying.

he is saying: moar speed = less turn because moar speed + moar turn = no turn.

 

 

torque steer occurs in an fwd (or sometimes an awd) vehicle this is when the wheels that steer the car spin at the same speed and dont allow the car to turn as sharply. (this only applies to wehicles where the steering wheels are powered, in an rwd vehicle this wont happen)

[carguy86]

2 hours ago, chaozbandit said:

Nice! E85 is a great option for easy power provided you make the necessary supporting mods. And, you have a decent supply chain around you lol. The nearest E85 station to me that I know of is an hour away, which is the same distance to the nearest track but in the opposite direction. I'm better off tuning for 94 octane, or whatever VP Race Fuels can offer.

 

E85 on a lightly modified FA20 is good for 40-80hp alone. The effective "boost" is less noticeable on naturally aspirated engines though.

my 245 waggon ran on e85, it had WAY MORE torque at lower rpms. it was insane, you could be almost at idle in 5th gear without issues.

[RatedBlam]

3 hours ago, Mister2010 said:

the 90 has to be the octane scale used in US ... cause here in Latvia the lowest octane number is 95

That's what it most likely is. 

But since the car was imported from somewhere in Europe and he looked it up from the gas cap or manual it might be the different kind.  

But I've never seen 90 Oct here either.