[Poll] Ranged Wireless Charging - Thoughts?

[dizmo]

So, over the last little while patents and such have been made for wireless charging with much greater range; picture it charging everything in your dwelling for discussions sake.

I'm curious what you guys think of this? Are you worried about all of the different waves we'll have bouncing around? Or does it not bother you?

I know that as of now we consider some frequencies harmless, but one has to wonder how much battering the body can take.

 

I've laid out the poll so that we get an age separation....mostly for curiosities sake

[Princess Luna]

Your poll misses the "indifferent" option which I believe can always be quite valid.

[AlwaysFSX]

My concern lies more with electrical interference with other electronics. Mostly with say audio devices.

[Oshino Shinobu]

I'm more concerned with how you would stop people just stealing your wireless power if it's being broadcast. 

 

 

[Cryptica135]

Just now, AlwaysFSX said:

My concern lies more with electrical interference with other electronics. Mostly with say audio devices.

I have the same concern as AlwaysFSX but I do not love it, I can say that I am not fully against in coming in the near future (as long as it is not proprietary to apple and they own it)

[Oshino Shinobu]

2 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

My concern lies more with electrical interference with other electronics. Mostly with say audio devices.

Or pacemakers 

[samcool55]

It's an overengineerd solution for something that wasn't a probiem in the first place but whatever, at least for phones.

And apart from a toothbrush that uses wireless charging for YEARS i have no clue why it would be useful...

[AresKrieger]

Long distance (like a grid) wireless transmission of power isnt happening so any sort of wireless power systems are meaningless

[ARikozuM]

I'm all for it in the right settings, but I'm wondering why we haven't pushed localized wireless charging farther. Especially for those of us that place their belongings in the same place at work, home, and the car. The other issue I'm thinking of is absorption of excess radiation. 

[AresKrieger]

5 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I'm wondering why we haven't pushed localized wireless charging farther

Simply put its a complex solution to a simple problem, for a hyperbolic example it would be like using a rocket to deliver the mail, its less efficient and not a economical solution and never will be.

[Arika]

i like my USB cables

[ARikozuM]

12 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

Simply put its a complex solution to a simple problem, for a hyperbolic example it would be like using a rocket to deliver the mail, its less efficient and not a economical solution and never will be.

Are we talking about charging pads and the like?

[AresKrieger]

16 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Are we talking about charging pads and the like?

 

The post seems to be talking about wireless transmission so not really, though those are no more useful than a cable

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, AresKrieger said:

The post seems to be talking about wireless transmission so not really, though those are no more useful than a cable

Oh, I was referring to refining wireless pads rather than doing that Disney "orb" thing.

[dizmo]

2 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Your poll misses the "indifferent" option which I believe can always be quite valid.

Added.

1 hour ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

Or pacemakers 

Nothing can interfere with those, so of course that'd be covered.

Though I imagine by the time something like this became mainstream they'd have found a better replacement than a pacemaker.

1 hour ago, samcool55 said:

It's an overengineerd solution for something that wasn't a probiem in the first place but whatever, at least for phones.

And apart from a toothbrush that uses wireless charging for YEARS i have no clue why it would be useful...

Wireless power. Eventually it could power your TV, lamps, etc. You wouldn't need plugs.

1 hour ago, AresKrieger said:

Long distance (like a grid) wireless transmission of power isnt happening so any sort of wireless power systems are meaningless

I was thinking more in a room/house.

1 hour ago, AresKrieger said:

Simply put its a complex solution to a simple problem, for a hyperbolic example it would be like using a rocket to deliver the mail, its less efficient and not a economical solution and never will be.

Never say never. If you were able to, in the future, simply install one dispersion unit you'd save a lot. Plugs, wiring, etc.

1 hour ago, ARikozuM said:

Are we talking about charging pads and the like?

I meant it as entire room/house charging. Where you'd never have to plug something in.

[TetraSky]

I have no interest in Ranged wireless charging. I'd much rather have devices with batteries that can last longer and which I can charge just by placing them on my nightstand (or similar).

 

Especially if it's anything like this abomination
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/244809-disney-creates-room-can-wirelessly-charge-hundreds-devices
Which is literally unsafe if you get too close to it. 

So unless they can figure out a way to make it as harmless as wifi, that kind of "technology" ain't gonna have a place in my home in the future.

 

 

Not to mention the efficiency and battery life. It's a fact that wireless charging is not only less efficient than a cable, but harms the battery somewhat, now imagine that but ranged, where the charge can drop or go up just by a simple movement on your part. Your devices will not last long. Great for companies, bad for everyone else.

[23ek1jelkejd10dsslk14]

I suppose it would be nice if You could charge Your phone from WIFi network or smthing

but as others stated earlier - there are plenty of problems that need to be sorted out before implementation of such feature

 

for now I'd like to see large charging pads for example, like "charging pad shelf" that activates chosen region of charging where device is placed and wirless charging possibility is detected - it probably would be also better for our health, I think

[A_Mediocre_Kangaroo_Farmer]

7 hours ago, dizmo said:

So, over the last little while patents and such have been made for wireless charging with much greater range; picture it charging everything in your dwelling for discussions sake.

I'm curious what you guys think of this? Are you worried about all of the different waves we'll have bouncing around? Or does it not bother you?

I know that as of now we consider some frequencies harmless, but one has to wonder how much battering the body can take.

 

I've laid out the poll so that we get an age separation....mostly for curiosities sake

I'm worried people actually think it can be done efficiently with out any directional guided beams making it less practical than wired charging.

[Marty88]

I don't see my self as any of those age ranges I am age neutral what do i do.

[Marty88]

Also if you are 25 years old which on do you use?

[TVwazhere]

3 hours ago, Marty88 said:

Also if you are 25 years old which on do you use?

#2, Since most people are not exactly 25, you'd be slightly older than that. Days, months, whatever.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

14 hours ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

Or pacemakers 

Wireless charging would have to be cleared by the FCC first so there would likely be no interference with pacemakers.

 

It looks like we might see some more prototypes soon. A company called Energous are planning to show off their product at CES 2018.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/energous-wireless-charging-fcc-approval,news-26302.html 

[Mira Yurizaki]

I don't think we'll have anything ranged beyond what we have now. The problem with wireless power is that it's not feasible. Not because the technology isn't there, but because we run into physics. I'm not an RF expert, but I'm sure emitting say 20W just going wherever which way in a room is not going to do so well for any of the electronics or particularly yourself. The FCC exposure limits are pretty small too (http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/fcc-maximum-permissible-exposure.htm).

[Sakkura]

9 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I don't think we'll have anything ranged beyond what we have now. The problem with wireless power is that it's not feasible. Not because the technology isn't there, but because we run into physics. I'm not an RF expert, but I'm sure emitting say 20W just going wherever which way in a room is not going to do so well for any of the electronics or particularly yourself. The FCC exposure limits are pretty small too (http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/fcc-maximum-permissible-exposure.htm).

Power beaming can transmit large amounts of power over long distances, physics does not at all preclude that.

 

http://www.mhi.com/news/story/1503121879.html

 

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The SSPS is being developed as a system that will generate power on a geostationary satellite at 36,000 kilometers above the earth using solar cell panels; the generated power will be transmitted to earth by microwave/laser

Beaming megawatts of power down from geostationary orbit is physically possible, so I would say beaming 20W across your room might not break physics either.

[Mira Yurizaki]

2 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

Power beaming can transmit large amounts of power over long distances, physics does not at all preclude that.

Yes but you have to make sure nothing gets in the way unless you like something beyond well done. Even a 5W laser can burn a piece of paper within seconds.

 

That's what I meant by physics. It's doable, but from a safety/practical point of view, I don't see it.