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Qualcomm trying to ban the sales of Iphones in the US

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1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

Unfortunately even Android flagships aren't much better in that regard -- two years of OS support is pretty pitiful. 

That's the main reason I have an iphone

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9 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Hundreds on Millions is irl pocket change to Apple. 

 

How much money they make is literally insane. 

True, that was money very, very needed by Nokia in their current situation too. Still, it's not like Apple is unbeatable in court ^_^

 

I mean, I own an iPhone but seriously I don't like Apple :P Too expensive for what they offer besides a nice-looking, smooth UI. And the accessories & necessary dumb adapters to even connect stuff together...

 

An example of a retarded decision? Let's say you have an iPhone, since there are many features that merge functionality of iPhones and MacBooks, you decide to get the latest MacBook Pro because you need a powerful laptop (despite it's ridiculous price) and out-of-the-box you cannot even charge the iPhone from the MacBook without investing even more money in adapters and cables that aren't included with those products, and if you you want to buy them from an Apple Store, they cost quite a lot...

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2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Because MS doesn't sue over every little thing.  Apple can't compete by being a good tech company.  They can only truly profit from shady business practices.

Please....You can't be that naive. Apple doesn't make their money from lawsuits.

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4 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

out-of-the-box you cannot even charge the iPhone from the MacBook without investing even more money in adapters and cables

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Apple could have included this in the box.......but then you would get people complaining that they couldn't use their old wall adapters, or plug into their existing computers so now they have to buy more adaptors and get more cables........

 

You can't please everyone, no matter what Apple could have done, people would have complained. Apple made the right decision shipping the iPhone 7 with USB A

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3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

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Apple could have included this in the box.......but then you would get people complaining that they couldn't use their old wall adapters, or plug into their existing computers. 

 

You can't please everyone, no matter what Apple could have done, people would have complained. 

They should have just included a lightning to usb-c cable and switched to a usb-c block and then included a usb-a to lightning solely for syncing purposes for older devices.

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Apple could have included this in the box.......but then you would get people complaining that they couldn't use their old wall adapters, or plug into their existing computers. 

 

You can't please everyone, no matter what Apple could have done, people would have complained. 

Well, I mean they definitely could put at least one regular USB 3.1 Type A port onto the MacBook which would definitely help with the complaints...

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4 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

They should have just included a lightning to usb-c cable as well.

Bruh they give you solid sounding headphones that cost $30 retail, a $20 wall adapter, a $25 cable, and a $10 headphone adapter. 

 

If you need a different cable buy it yourself. 

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Well, I mean they definitely could put at least one regular USB 3.1 Type A port onto the MacBook which would definitely help with the complaints...

I actually prefer not having any USB A ports, it forces companies to modernize to support USB C. If the user needs USB A they can either not buy the MacBook, or buy any of the seemingly endless adapter options. 

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19 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Well, it's not like Nokia was the one paying hundreds of millions of dollars to Apple though, right? :P 

They'd only have a few million dollars to give in the first place. xD

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8 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Right, holding people back hence why Woz left, false advertising, and more like asking more money for a platform that is strongly lacking compared to the competition.  What exactly have they done that's good for the tech community?  But, I guess Woz is wrong.

In what way is Apple lacking in their target market? 

 

And what have they done? Oh idk, the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad, the GUI and the precedents that each of these products/Ideas and the software they ran set. 

 

and btw, Woz is not a all knowing Wizard. 

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5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Bruh they give you solid sounding headphones that cost $30 retail, a $20 wall adapter, and a $25 cable, and a $10 headphone adapter. 

 

If you need a different cable buy it yourself. 

They provide fair headphones, and non of those inclusions cost anywhere near that much to make -- Apple just has very large margins on them. Regardless, that's fine, whatever. They should have included a type-C cable, a type-C block, and a type-A cable. They clearly want to switch to Type-C given the new Macs, so they should be pushing new iPhone users towards that and then providing a type-A cable so people can sync their new iPhones to their computers without having to buy something else (forcing them to buy a type A cable is like how Nintendo doesn't provide a charger with the New 3DS).

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and more like asking more money for a platform that is strongly lacking compared to the competition.  

Their products are so 'strongly lacking' and yet I still prefer using a Mac and an iPhone -- and I've used/use Windows/Android recentely/today on high end hardware. I still vastly prefer Macs to any Windows laptop I've used in recent years for a multitude of reasons and I prefer iOS to Android. 

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What exactly have they done that's good for tech community?  But, I guess Woz is wrong.

Driving other companies to innovate as well as innovating themselves.

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providing a type-A cable so people can sync their new iPhones to their computers without having to buy something else

tbh there isn't room in the box for another cable xD

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1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

Surprisingly a lot of people are violently anti-apple and would rather see them fail than have competition and options. 

not wrong there

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3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

tbh there isn't room in the box for another cable xD

There's plenty of space if they make the plastic bottom thinner. 

2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

 MP3 players were already a thing, Smartphones have been around since IBM created them, and tablets existed before the ipad.  GUI also was not created by Apple.

iPod alternatives were trash, smartphones barely existed before the iPhone, and tablets offered such a miserable experience prior to the iPad. A product doesn't have to be a new category to innovate. 

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1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

Right, Woz is just the reason Apple was a thing in the first place.  Remember, Apple is not about good technology nor creativity.  They're about suing over things they don't own, and profiting from shady business practices.  That's where Jobs saw money, not Woz.  This is why Woz left.  MP3 players were already a thing, Smartphones have been around since IBM created them, and tablets existed before the ipad.  GUI also was not created by Apple.

You just have a lot of problems to sort out don't you?

 

I'll leave you be since you clearly dont understand the difference between something existing, and making people want to use it. 

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1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

Is that why Jobs thinks he created each of them?

Jobs can think he did whatever the fuck he wants, I don't actually care. The fact of the matter -- and the start of this discussion was the implication that Apple has done nothing for the tech community, which is complete and utter nonsense. 

 

12 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

....What exactly have they done that's good for the tech community?  ....

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Epic rap battles of history 'Qualcomm vs Apple'. Who won, you decide!

There has only ever been one epic rap battle ever. Korn vs. Limp Bizkit - All in the Family.

Come Bloody Angel

Break off your chains

And look what I've found in the dirt.

 

Pale battered body

Seems she was struggling

Something is wrong with this world.

 

Fierce Bloody Angel

The blood is on your hands

Why did you come to this world?

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

The blood is on your hands.

 

The blood is on your hands!

 

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2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Woz has helped made PC usage easier, Apple/Jobs fronted company has done nothing.

K dude

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Qualcomm's getting nervous after Apple in a lawsuit called their patents invalid. :D

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11 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Woz has helped by making PC usage easier, Apple/Jobs fronted company has done nothing.  Anyways, I will never give them the support you guys have for them.  So, let's just end this now.

There's a big difference between not supporting and running around with a blindfold on screaming "la la la la la la la".

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lol it'll be even harder to defeat Apple. 

I know, but it's still not a definite win for Apple. 

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as far as whole apple synergy that falls more on the iPhone, they are already using forced adoption of usb-c with the macbook and like to see the 7s and 8 with a charging cable that has a usc-c to usb adaptor along with the wall mount 

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what parents are they even 'infringing' on

 

slowing down the CPU?

turning off unused chips?

low power mode!

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2 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Cheering for Qualcomm

I'm cheering for a complete overhaul of the patent system...but I don't think I'll ever see that. Sad face. 

 

On an unrelated note you must be excited for the My Little Pony movie!

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

Surprisingly a lot of people are violently anti-apple and would rather see them fail than have competition and options. 

I've always wondered why. I mean, I hate their products. Except perhaps the iPods. But I understand why they're successful, and fully accept that they're an excellent choice for many a user. I hate the toxic atmosphere on this forum when it comes to Apple. It's still a computer. It's like hating people that use Linux. Who cares? 

1 hour ago, valdyrgramr said:

Why do you support Apple so much?  They're notorious for suing people over things they didn't create, and they're notorious for holding people back instead of letting them be creative for profit.  If you don't believe the second part then ask Woz why he left.

You sue people infringing on patents for many more reasons than profit. Also, he supports them because he likes their products. There's nothing wrong with that, and it doesn't affect you whatsoever. If you think Apple is the only company that does that, your so naive it makes me sick. 

1 hour ago, hey_yo_ said:

Given how much Apple is making so much money whenever an iPhone is launched means more taxes. Apple doesn't even need to lobby lawmakers and this request by Qualcomm will be tossed to the trash. 

Hahaha, that's hilarious!! Apple. Taxes. You made my day. 

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

You can think whatever you want about them, but you dont get to be where they are now by being a bad company. 

That's not entirely true. Plus good business and good ethics have no correlation. 

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

They are the ones being sued!

Countersued, no? I do believe Apple started it. 

1 hour ago, BuckGup said:

This is old news and nothing is going to happen. If you didn't like the new S8 being $1000+ then man wait for $2000+ with no competition. As much as you might hate apple they are the major players in the economy and losing them would screw everyone. Like I said never going to happen though

There will always be inter-ecosystem competition. So that statement isn't totally accurate. 

1 hour ago, Kobathor said:

I just told you that they make way more than SoCs. It would still practically kill the budget smartphone market, unless companies like MediaTek start making better SoCs. 

There are more phone manufacturers than Apple and Samsung. The majority of the market is not Apple or Samsung combined.

Depends on what market. In the US, it is mostly Apple and Samsung, I believe in a few other markets that's also true. 

 

If Samsung stepped up Exynos production we'd be fine. Which would likely happen if Qualcomm didn't exist. 

59 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Sure if they infringed a patent pay up. But to eliminate sales would be devastating to everyone

You just do that to show them you're serious. It's like saying "I've gone and told the teacher! She's gonna take that ball! We're both going to the principals office!" Principal makes you shake hands, returns the ball, and you're off on your way. Let's be real, a ban on their phones would never be successful. Though it would be interesting if they had to change some software. 

58 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Unfortunately even Android flagships aren't much better in that regard -- two years of OS support is pretty pitiful. 

I'd be interested to see how many people actually keep flagship devices for more than a couple years. I'm sure they're still out there somewhere, but the user thst actually paid for them usually has something new by then. Or just doesn't care. I'd love to see security updates become mandatory though. That affects us all. 

52 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Because MS doesn't sue over every little thing.  Apple can't compete by being a good tech company.  They can only truly profit from shady business practices.

Don't you have to sue to keep the patent? Or is that a trademark... 

47 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Bruh they give you solid sounding headphones that cost $30 retail, a $20 wall adapter, a $25 cable, and a $10 headphone adapter. 

 

If you need a different cable buy it yourself. 

Hahah, please. Don't quote retail pricing trying to make it seem like they're already giving you the world. We both know they pay pennies a piece for those accessories. 

37 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

There's plenty of space if they make the plastic bottom thinner. 

iPod alternatives were trash, smartphones barely existed before the iPhone, and tablets offered such a miserable experience prior to the iPad. A product doesn't have to be a new category to innovate. 

I've been airing a very, very long time for good PMPs. In the last year or so we've finally seen some decent ones come out, but Apple still holds the overall crown Imo. I wish they'd come out with some new stuff though. 

35 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Jobs can think he did whatever the fuck he wants, I don't actually care. The fact of the matter -- and the start of this discussion was the implication that Apple has done nothing for the tech community, which is complete and utter nonsense. 

 

He can't think. He's dead, Jim. 

32 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

There has only ever been one epic rap battle ever. Korn vs. Limp Bizkit - All in the Family.

As much as I love that song, is it really rap? 

I don't think so :P

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