7900X Coming In Hot?!

[Taf the Ghost]

5 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Coffeelake on X299 would be pretty freaking cool. I would definitely buy the 6 core if they decide to do that

I imagine dropping CFL on X299 would cause a lot of shouting by very angry Asian motherboard designers.  Haha.

[VagabondWraith]

2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Raven Ridge APU looks like it'll be pretty nuts.  It's 4c8t Zen CCX + 1/6th of a RX Vega.  So it's about like having a Ryzen 5 1400 and a GTX 1030 on a single package.  HTPC king, especially with hardware decoding.

That would be great! Would be perfect for my home theater and a light bedroom gaming rig all in one.

 

I swear, one of these days I'm going to FINALLY buy an AMD product. They deserve it and their APU's are looking like my next definite purchase.

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

I asked them and they  said they don't care how many returns you have as long as it isn't too many "defective item" returns.  Once you cross that threshold you get banned.

 

Yeah, I think you may have asked under a slightly different set of circumstances.  

 

It's become a pretty big talking point on some forums that they are doing it now for unopened items as well as some Prime members are slamming them hard.  Speculation is that the magic number is 10% right now, which seems very fair to me.  Unfortunately, if you call them and ask what the rate is, they can't/refuse to tell you. 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Taf the Ghost said:

I imagine dropping CFL on X299 would cause a lot of shouting by very angry Asian motherboard designers.  Haha.

I could care less, I just want a 6 core Coffelake on LGA 2066

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

You better believe that they resell unopened items as new.  Most retailers do whether we know it or not.

I see nothing wrong with that to be fair, its sealed so its condition is new and unused  

12 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

What I'm excited about is the possibility of Coffee Lake getting the same adaptation for x299.  x299 would literally become a platform that could support any task.

Me too but you said it wasn't suited to X299 but when I asked why you didn't say  

[AnonymousGuy]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

Yeah, I think you may have asked under a slightly different set of circumstances.  

 

It's become a pretty big talking point on some forums that they are doing it now for unopened items as well as some Prime members are slamming them hard.  Speculation is that the magic number is 10% right now, which seems very fair to me.  Unfortunately, if you call them and ask what the rate is, they can't/refuse to tell you. 

I'll just hope my business account makes me immune to their quotas

[VagabondWraith]

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

I hope that I didn't give the impression that I return THAT much, but I do return unopened items that I don't need.  After learning about their new return system, I'm just more careful in ordering the amount of stuff I need, where I used to say "fuck it, buy more and return what I don't need".

 

We've all had builds where we wished would would have gotten a few extra of these or more of those.  Especially when doing custom loops and other big projects.  

 

Luckily I remain under whatever their threshold is.  Maybe that's a sign that I order too much shit to begin with?

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you return things left and right. I apologize if it seemed that way. Trust me, I'm weary of Amazon too. I didn't like returning my Titan X for a 1080 Ti because I knew NV would lose money from it. That happens for any company. I feel bad, but what can you do? They offer a 30 day no questions asked return for a full refund. I figured, hey, I can save $500 so, why not? 

[done12many2]

4 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

I imagine dropping CFL on X299 would cause a lot of shouting by very angry Asian motherboard designers.  Haha.

 

I guess that would depend on if the PCIe / memory lane pin-out differed much.  Other than that, the onus is on Intel to make it work with the socket and send out new code for BIOS updates.  

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I could care less, I just want a 6 core Coffelake on LGA 2066

Intel's product managers do, though, haha.

[tom_w141]

5 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

I imagine dropping CFL on X299 would cause a lot of shouting by very angry Asian motherboard designers.  Haha.

They don't seem too happy with X299 already

 

Those manuals man  

[done12many2]

Pretty HUGE newsflash.  Check my signature!  

 

The ship has sailed on that joke.  

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, done12many2 said:

Pretty HUGE newsflash.  Check my signature!  

I am laughing my ass off!

[done12many2]

6 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

They don't seem too happy with X299 already

 

Those manuals man  

 

Asus already has their manuals for some of their boards up on their website.   That's how I learned that the VROC key thing was just everyone overreacting.  

[Heesleemer]

58 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

You have to pay to play.  

hahahah
I mean I guess that's the 3rd factor in the two you guys laid our earlier. 

With that said, I am excited to see 6950x prices drop a tad so I can upgrade 

[Taf the Ghost]

36 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

They don't seem too happy with X299 already

 

Those manuals man  

Paul was pretty annoyed just trying to explain it all.

[Princess Luna]

so hot...

[2FA]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

so hot...

h a w t

[tom_w141]

10 hours ago, done12many2 said:

 

Asus already has their manuals for some of their boards up on their website.   That's how I learned that the VROC key thing was just everyone overreacting.  

Just noticed I'm in your sig -.- god damn it  

 

FYI you can be an asshole without being one all the time  for example *looks at self*

[Taf the Ghost]

Steve said something interesting in the "review": there's an auto Vcore OC feature on X299.  That's probably where the thermal issue is coming from, but it might also limit performance if you wrangle that in.

[tom_w141]

3 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Steve said something interesting in the "review": there's an auto Vcore OC feature on X299.  That's probably where the thermal issue is coming from, but it might also limit performance if you wrangle that in.

Steve from HW Unboxed/Techspot has the most in depth review regarding the thermals so far. I updated the first post with his review if you didn't see  Was happening at 1.2V no auto Vcore. Also happened immediately in Aida64 cpu only test which is a non AVX workload, so there goes the blaming AVX argument  

[Taf the Ghost]

51 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Steve from HW Unboxed/Techspot has the most in depth review regarding the thermals so far. I updated the first post with his review if you didn't see  Was happening at 1.2V no auto Vcore. Also happened immediately in Aida64 cpu only test which is a non AVX workload, so there goes the blaming AVX argument  

In the case of the 7900X, I really think it's just dealing with too much heat in too tight of an area that then has to deal with the TIM issue.

 

The delidder are probably going to have a field day with this chip starting next week.

[Morgan MLGman]

How is this thread still going ;-; Don't you people think that everything that needs to be said has already been said?

[done12many2]

16 hours ago, done12many2 said:

Pretty HUGE newsflash.  Check my signature!  

6 hours ago, tom_w141 said:

Just noticed I'm in your sig -.- god damn it  

 

FYI you can be an asshole without being one all the time  for example *looks at self*

 

It's good to see that nothing gets by you.  

[leadeater]

[done12many2]

Just now, leadeater said:

 

27 pages later we know that running a 10c/20t CPU at high clock speeds with an off the shelf cooler is going to result in high temps.  To that I say, no shit.