Chinese site shows extensive benchmarks results of AMD Ryzen

[Space Reptile]

is nobody going to talk about how it beat a 6950X by almost 5000 points?

that is almost 25% above a 10c/20t cpu ....

 

Jesus Christ I don't care if it was on LN2 and cherry picked , its GOOD if it can beat a 10c/20t by 25%

[Citadelen]

18 hours ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

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So this is super amusing, this guy still doesn't understand that TDP and power draw aren't the same...

[MageTank]

13 minutes ago, Citadelen said:

So this is super amusing, this guy still doesn't understand that TDP and power draw aren't the same...

I believe he does, he just didn't understand my wording of the problem. The problem with TDP in general, is that it's not a defined industry standard when it comes to testing a TDP. Some companies use averages, or very specific workloads to rate their product's TDP, while others actually do use TDP to advertise their products maximum power draw. 

 

This is why you cannot compare two TDP's from two different manufacturers. It's also a huge issue when it comes to actually finding CPU heatsinks. Take my 45mm vapor chamber for example. This thing is rated for 130w (though, this number seems to change depending on the retailer) but if I subject it to 130w of heat (measured from HWInfo64's CPU Package Power sensor), this thing absolutely melts. Even when undervolted and CLU on the bare die, it's still hitting thermal junction at 124w (even though the TDP of my cooler is 130w). What likely happened, is ID Cooling likely took a 130w CPU, tested it using a tame stress test/benchmark, and then assumed that since the 130w CPU did fine, their cooler was therefore worthy of the 130w label. Even though during whatever workload their CPU did, it likely wasn't creating 130w worth of heat to dissipate. 

 

I really wish TDP validation was standardized, and required an authentication process, but with any authentication process, comes an additional fee. To me, the price would be worth it, but others might not feel the same way.

[LAwLz]

11 hours ago, elkenrod said:

Somebody tell me.... should I be excited about this?

 

I see a lot more black than red here.  What's the price difference of these two CPUs that were benchmarked?

They cost the same (400 vs 410). 

 

So fairly excited I'd say. Not at all as good as the hype machine wants, but still good. 

[JamieOlive]

20 hours ago, MageTank said:

I don't care what MSI is saying, or what they are marketing. You simply cannot mislead people by using the words "at least" in regards to overclocking. No overclock is guaranteed. As I've already stated, we know nothing of the sample sizes being tested, and we don't know if they received binned chips in their tests. I bet if you check MSI's marketing, they use two magical words. "Up To". Every single company uses these words to avoid legal repercussions. "Up to 60Mbps". "Up to 4ghz". See the trend here?

Ok look, I believe that Intel all those years has taken the fun out of overclocking. Why is it bad for one chip to overclock better than the other, I mean no manufacturing proccess is perfect, Intel just pushes every CPU to the max on their one, and you get 200-400 Mhz on Avg.

 

Why wouldn't I want lets say a 4C / 8T Ryzen at 3,7Ghz at 200$ and O.C to 4.2Ghz to 4.8Ghz depending on the chip insted of a 350$ Core i7 at 4.5Ghz that O.C to 4.8 to 4.9Ghz.

 

That is just me thought, I want the fun, the experience the luck in the proccess, and Intel is just making fun od it thelast few years and profits greatly in the proccess, It is time that changes.

 

And last but certainly not least, dont think Intel or Nvidia or AMD doesn't send the best validated chips to reviewers, they alll do it, it is simple business.

[Bouzoo]

11 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

At least with your we can see it was at what can only be described as a Lays frequency  

What's funny is if Ryzen turns out to be that good, I'm sure he'd buy it and run a 1800X at 5GHz on water even though the rest of the world would need LN2. 

[VagabondWraith]

[LanceXXX]

IS THIS TRUE?! Omg I really hope Intel does more than just a Price Cut!

 

https://www.edgeneo.com/blog/amd-ryz...ance-benchmark

AMD’s Ryzen 7 1700X has been compared against the Core i7 7700K and Core i7 6950X processors in single and multithreaded performance benchmarks. The performance results were validated on the CPU-Z database and reveal that AMD’s upcoming 8 core is one fast chip for enthusiasts.
Single-Threaded Scores

Multi-Threaded Scores

[goodtofufriday]

18 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

So the 1700 -not the X- can perform 10% less than a 6900k for about 700$ less?

Hey thats friggen awesome! and I say 6900k because its an 8c/16t cpu like the 1700.

[Aytex]

Neat.

All I care about are competition and price drops ?

 

Gimme Dem Skylake CPUs for cheap

[goodtofufriday]

The literal thread above yours is this exact topic, and i posted it yesterday.

 

please check if things have been posted before.

 

 

[Misanthrope]

Frequencies? 

[done12many2]

This shit is too funny.  I need to log out of LTT for a couple of days.

 

All of the hype would have you believe that Ryzen is going to be the best in every single category.  People are that gullible?

[79wjd]

If Ryzen could beat Kaby Lake in single threaded performance, then it either clocks extremely well or it has a stronger IPC. In either case, AMD would be shouting that from the rooftops if true. 

 

/I didn't open the article, so I have no idea what clocks anything was run at. But was the 6950x at stock while the 1700x had a 30%~ overclock, because that would easily explain how an 8c/16t cpu would beat a 10c/20t cpu in multithreaded tasks?

[knightslugger]

4 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

AMD would be shouting that from the rooftops if true. 

and spoil the suspense buildup? That would be a poor business decision if you ask me.

[jeffmeyer5295]

Just now, knightslugger said:

and spoil the suspense buildup? That would be a poor business decision if you ask me.

We live in a hype driven world. If AMD had anything to hype up right now. They would I think.

[79wjd]

Just now, knightslugger said:

and spoil the suspense buildup? That would be a poor business decision if you ask me.

Because the slides they showed on press-day didn't show similar types of information.....

[Glenwing]

Overclocked CPUs beats a non-overclocked CPU.

 

What's new?

[jeffmeyer5295]

3 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

Overclocked CPUs beats a non-overclocked CPU.

 

What's new?

Lol for real. Getting tired of all the Ryzen crap being thrown around

[goodtofufriday]

1 minute ago, Glenwing said:

Overclocked CPUs beats a non-overclocked CPU.

 

What's new?

That its an 8 core/16 thread chip. for 20$ less than the 7700k. And buy OCing it you can get the same perf as the 4core.

 

Its not a typical situation as you know.

[VagabondWraith]

Burnt toast. 

 

I wish people would search before shitposting.

[Glenwing]

2 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

That its an 8 core/16 thread chip. for 20$ less than the 7700k. And buy OCing it you can get the same perf as the 4core.

 

Its not a typical situation as you know.

Yup, it's a good chip, but there's no need to try to manipulate the test controls to fake people into thinking it's even better than it really is.

[Guest Kloaked]

6 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

Overclocked CPUs beats a non-overclocked CPU.

 

What's new?

These benchmarks aren't even new. They keep making their way around these posts on this forum like they're new.

 

https://www.google.com/#q=linustechtips+ryzen+benchmark&*

[Glenwing]

1 minute ago, Kloaked said:

These benchmarks aren't even new. They keep making their way around these posts on this forum like they're new.

 

https://www.google.com/#q=linustechtips+ryzen+benchmark&*

Welp. What's new... again... 

 

 Locked

[WkdPaul]

All Ryzen benchmark threads were merged into this one.

@goodtofufriday

@LanceXXX