Popular porn sites blocked in Philippines

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

This is easily solved. Simply change your DNS. Australia did the same thing with sites such as thepiratebay, and within half an hour it was shown to be utterly pointless (BTW, switching DNS in Australia helps get rid of the connection issues with Optu$, and Helstra-so some people here didn't even need to do anything to remove the block)

Governments will learn how little control they have on the internet, eventually. Until then we'll backdoor, workaround and exploit our way into freedom! AHAHAHHA!

[Wolther]

6 minutes ago, Energycore said:

 

As I said above, any ideas on how to enforce porn to people of age? Here's one: require an online payment if only a small one. At least that will mean that the minor will have to go out of their way to steal a credit card to do it, and then they'll get caught and into big trouble. I'm not against the idea of porn only for those who own a credit card of their own.

 

And thanks to security certificates the tech we have today would help mitigate sites exploiting this measure.

I don't think it should be enforced, but rather educated upon. But for the sake of argument and there was no other option..

 

requiring anything that gives a proof of age. Bassicly you prove your age to the government through various and easy ways. Then they give you a token (a key) that allows you to unlock (age)+ websites. You can set it to unlock for however long you want. 

[Dabombinable]

Here is how you switch the DNS (I did things from the router end and on my computer-its possible even with heavily restricted routers):

https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using

 

List of free DNS, just use Google's instructions from above:

https://www.keycdn.com/blog/best-free-dns-hosting-providers/

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, hey_yo_ said:

This reminded me of a hypothetical situation:

 

Assuming I'm a PhD student doing research on sexuality and I am sitting inside Starbucks. While it's true that I can bypass the government block by using a virtual private network, people can still see what I do by glancing at my back. If a legislator successfully proposed that people browsing porn should be arrested, I could get incarcerated if let's say a barista ratted me out to the authorities even though I'm doing research and not being a sexual predator. Not to mention that there's now a probable cause because the barista saw my browser tabs filled with naked people and images that suggests pornography. While I can have myself defended by an attorney on court, that will just cause me more expenses and a delay in my research.

 

That's why this porn ban is silly.

Just by the way, I don't think any of the people here are suggesting that the ban is not silly. Just proposing solutions.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, Wolther said:

I don't think it should be enforced, but rather educated upon. But for the sake of argument and there was no other option..

 

requiring anything that gives a proof of age. Bassicly you prove your age to the government through various and easy ways. Then they give you a token (a key) that allows you to unlock (age)+ websites. You can set it to unlock for however long you want. 

Fuck yeah!

 

And if I'm a parent and I want my children to watch the service, I can just give them my token.

[captain_to_fire]

2 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

This is easily solved. Simply change your DNS. Australia did the same thing with sites such as thepiratebay, and within half an hour it was shown to be utterly pointless (BTW, switching DNS in Australia helps get rid of the connection issues with Optu$, and Helstra-so some people here didn't even need to do anything to remove the block)

After reading the article, I tried going to a porn site and it still gives me full access. It turns out my ISP Globe Telecom hasn't enforced it yet. The other ISP's PLDT (and it's wireless carrier Smart) already implemented the ban.

[captain_to_fire]

9 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Just by the way, I don't think any of the people here are suggesting that the ban is not silly. Just proposing solutions.

I probably picked the wrong words to finish my last sentence but I do think that the ban could be a double edged sword.

[Thony]

This is coming to UK soon I believe....those nasty pigs want it all for themselves...

[Vode]

2 hours ago, Energycore said:

*ahem* dick lenghts *ahem*

 

Also boob sizes, and even pussy shapes.

 

I should stop now, I'm getting too far into the details

So I guess we ban every advertisement ever then?

 

 

[dizmo]

I'm thinking this really comes down to a reputation thing. If you ban the sites there's no way you'll be on the list next year.

They're so blindly religious they must be scared to death of what the Pope thought when he read that.

 

2 hours ago, Dawson Wehage said:

Ahh interesting, probably should bury my laptop in the harbor.

Please, you're in Edmonton. You've got an awful long way to find a harbor

[LAwLz]

2 hours ago, Wolther said:

I agree with your argument. But being devils advocate; cars are restricted to adults (licenses). Alcohol is restricted (identification). Pornography on the internet is currently not restricted. 

Any kid can steal their parents car keys and drive around if they want. It happens all the time. It's not like the car doesn't start if you don't have a license. You just need the keys.

 

And as for alcohol, do you have any idea how easy it is to get hold of alcohol even when you aren't old enough? Again, happens all the time. You really can't argue that "it's hard to get alcohol if you're not 18 so it's not a problem, unlike porn!".

I will agree that the car analogy is very rare, but the alcohol one is not. Hell, it's probably almost as common for people under the age to drink alcohol as it is underage people watching porn. The difference is that drinking alcohol is far more damaging and yet nobody is doing anything about it.

 

 

2 hours ago, Energycore said:

As I said above, any ideas on how to enforce porn to people of age? Here's one: require an online payment if only a small one. At least that will mean that the minor will have to go out of their way to steal a credit card to do it, and then they'll get caught and into big trouble. I'm not against the idea of porn only for those who own a credit card of their own.

 

And thanks to security certificates the tech we have today would help mitigate sites exploiting this measure.

Way too big of a security and privacy risk to require credit cards for porn.

[Trik'Stari]

Seems like a great way to piss off an already angry constituency.

[suicidalfranco]

dear parents of the world,

the government isn't supposed to be your kids nanny. Get your shit together you lazy fucks!

 

yours truly, 

random internet guy

[Dabombinable]

12 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

Seems like a great way to piss off an already angry constituency.

Well most governments are filled with people who've been around since at least the 60's/early 70's...they know jack shit about the internet, other then "that is FB, that is Twatter, and that is email".

[Trik'Stari]

1 minute ago, Dabombinable said:

Well most governments are filled with people who've been around since at least the 60's/early 70's...they know jack shit about the internet, other then "that is FB, that is Twatter, and that is email".

Indeed. We need an age cap on being an elected official, as well as term and seat limits.

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, Trik'Stari said:

Indeed. We need an age cap on being an elected official, as well as term and seat limits.

Well their terms are already limited, though any of them should only be in "power" for at most 8 years. Or at least have a separate department to help the rest of the government understand what the hell they are doing (kind of like the one the US government had a while ago).

[Trik'Stari]

1 minute ago, Dabombinable said:

Well their terms are already limited, though any of them should only be in "power" for at most 8 years. Or at least have a separate department to help the rest of the government understand what the hell they are doing (kind of like the one the US government had a while ago).

The US does not have universal term limits. Each state decides how long their "Representatives" will last. With a number of states having no limits at all.

 

It's hard to get intelligent people into an elected position, because they're usually busy doing something useful.

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, Trik'Stari said:

The US does not have universal term limits. Each state decides how long their "Representatives" will last. With a number of states having no limits at all.

 

It's hard to get intelligent people into an elected position, because they're usually busy doing something useful.

 

[tlink]

eh blocking porn to prevent child pornography is a pretty bad idea imo. honestly i would love more research into CGI child pornography because it doesn't hurt anyone directly and out markets a lot of real child pornography while it enables for example the government to dispatch a child safety kit to the watcher with places they can call or go to if they fear they can't control their urges. but then maybe that ignites curiosity for the real stuff so like i said i would love some proper research into it.

[JoseGuya]

There is still people that think they can block something on the internet? Really? 

 

 

 

[Mirdon]

Edit: Nvm, seems like my ISP isn't included for now.

[NTDaws]

8 hours ago, dizmo said:

I'm thinking this really comes down to a reputation thing. If you ban the sites there's no way you'll be on the list next year.

They're so blindly religious they must be scared to death of what the Pope thought when he read that.

 

Please, you're in Edmonton. You've got an awful long way to find a harbor

Well i better start packing

[PlayStation 2]

@JelleDekkers

[Energycore]

11 hours ago, Vode said:

So I guess we ban every advertisement ever then?

 

 

I would definitely not oppose to that

[Energycore]

10 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Way too big of a security and privacy risk to require credit cards for porn.

I disagree. You can have legit porn sites go through the government, and if they start stealing credit cards you have their info because of their registration. This is what https certificates were made for.

 

That's as much of a security risk as requiring credit cards for online sales, for instance.