UK plans to block all pornography outside of the "norm" - Digital Economy Bill

[Doobeedoo]

Man UK lately..

[Misanthrope]

Fucking normies.

[PlayStation 2]

Oh boy. To all my brothers in the UK, I hope you find a backup plan.

[rentaspoon]

1 hour ago, tlink said:

well i hope it turns out okay for you gals, pretty shitty how it went.

Thanks, I actually voted out but the damn thing turned into US style politics.

1 hour ago, Jovidah said:

I wouldn't keep your hopes up. Sure you're still in the EU now, but that's just a matter of waiting.

 

As for 'whether or not you'll leave'.... I think there's a very slim chance of thatchanging. The main reason is that it's politically different. Neither party dares to backtrack on it, since doing so would still mean pissing off about half the electorate. Even if both parties did it, they'd just leave the sheer majority of the 'leave'-voters to again vote for UKIP in protest, thereby helping them to a majority (as labor and conservatives would split the stay vote). In fear of this scenario, neither party will try to keep things as they are. They might try to lessen the blow, keep it a 'paper exit' while keeping as much the same as they can, but actually remaining in full is very unlikely.

I have no hopes, I will play it as it comes but the vote now goes to the politics and it's been a long time since they listened to the publics opinion.

1 hour ago, malon said:

So basicly all porn websites that have any other variation of pornography exept missionary under the bedsheets in a dark room will be blocked, poor uk and i am honest about that.

Also am i the only one who fears that sex ed, ifthat even is a thing in the uk, honestly dont know but wouldnt be supriced if it isnt a thing there at this point, is going to be delayed to the last year of hischool or even canceled in its total by the current government

We already have the extreme pornography act or something plus the failed white list, this is just trying to force the white list through.

1 hour ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

This law hasn't passed, and it's technically not a new law. It's an edit/addition to the Digital Economy Bill, which is already in place. This edit to the bill is technically in violation of the EU's Net Neutrality rulings, but like the age verification plans, it bypasses those rulings. Once we're no longer tied to the EU (depending on our exit agreement, we may still have to work with the EU for certain laws), the government can start the process of creating their own rules and gain more control over the internet in the UK. 

We can create laws without the EU, had a further look into it and we can pick and choose what laws we want to take from the EU and create a domestic law, trying to find a link.

 

Edit: Parliament Sovereignty in the constitution which was ironically used to enter the EU

[Thony]

Many websites have porn vidoes under various languages so I wonder if they ban the website as a whole or certain videos wony be available. 

 

Stupidest bill in 2016 from UK pooperment...

 

If major ones work just fine then I frankly dont give a flying fuck. I dont have any weird fetishes. Im simple man, I see boobs and a kitty and im fine.

[MrTiC]

So they want to BAN 99.9% of the interwebz ? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck!

[Oshino Shinobu]

46 minutes ago, Thony said:

Many websites have porn vidoes under various languages so I wonder if they ban the website as a whole or certain videos wony be available. 

 

Stupidest bill in 2016 from UK pooperment...

 

If major ones work just fine then I frankly dont give a flying fuck. I dont have any weird fetishes. Im simple man, I see boobs and a kitty and im fine.

VPN solves everything. 

[Oshino Shinobu]

31 minutes ago, MrTiC said:

So they want to BAN 99.9% of the interwebz ? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck!

It goes to show how out of touch the UK Government is. 

[MrTiC]

56 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

It goes to show how out of touch the UK Government is. 

TBH all of EU is out of wack

[Coaxialgamer]

Ok.  

[Vode]

Missionary and Cowgirl are ok. Scissors and Amazon are banned.

 

LMAO UK pls..

 

After Brexit and the UK giving unnecessary bureaucracy and regulations as reasons against the EU they for sure introducing enough nonsense of their own.

[Master Disaster]

17 hours ago, rentaspoon said:

We are still in the EU and it was deemed brexit wasn't legal, thanks to a law Cameron passed last year that he didn't follow when issuing the referendum. We might not even leave depending on what happens in parliament in the next coming months, hell we might see a vote of no confidence in the goverment.

Total nonsense. Some rich toff decided to challenge the result in court claiming the referendum was invalid as the result was not voted on by Parliament and the court decided with her but recommended to refer the case on to a higher court in December for ruling.

 

The simple fact is both the commons & lords voted on whether to hold the referendum or not and the vote was passed by a margin of 6 to 1 across both houses. They don't need to vote on the result for it to be legal, that's not how public votes work otherwise any election would also have to be voted in Parliament to be ratified.

 

Teresa May has also very clearly said she will go ahead with her plan to invoke article 50 in march no matter what the courts say and despite the fact I think she is the devil I do believe her, I think she knows what will happen if she doesn't do it.

 

The bigger problem they face are Scotland's claim they cannot be taken out of the EU by UK government against their will, Scotland have asked to speak at the court case in December. If the judges decide with Scotland then she may be forced to wait until Scotland hold a referendum and a deal between the EU, UK & Scotland can be agreed.

 

Personally I'm going with so called soft brexit, its what I think she will do. Essentially May will agree with the EU that we will officially leave but in real terms nothing will actually change. Free trade agreements will remain in place in exchange for us keeping open borders with EU member states. This is ideal for the government as it means they don't have to renegotiate any trade deals with the EU but they do gain the control over our laws which would allow them to pass stupid laws like this one. Soft brexit is win win for the Tories.

[matrix07012]

 

[rentaspoon]

1 hour ago, Master Disaster said:

Total nonsense. Some rich toff decided to challenge the result in court claiming the referendum was invalid as the result was not voted on by Parliament and the court decided with her but recommended to refer the case on to a higher court in December for ruling.

 

The simple fact is both the commons & lords voted on whether to hold the referendum or not and the vote was passed by a margin of 6 to 1 across both houses. They don't need to vote on the result for it to be legal, that's not how public votes work otherwise any election would also have to be voted in Parliament to be ratified.

 

Teresa May has also very clearly said she will go ahead with her plan to invoke article 50 in march no matter what the courts say and despite the fact I think she is the devil I do believe her, I think she knows what will happen if she doesn't do it.

 

The bigger problem they face are Scotland's claim they cannot be taken out of the EU by UK government against their will, Scotland have asked to speak at the court case in December. If the judges decide with Scotland then she may be forced to wait until Scotland hold a referendum and a deal between the EU, UK & Scotland can be agreed.

 

Personally I'm going with so called soft brexit, its what I think she will do. Essentially May will agree with the EU that we will officially leave but in real terms nothing will actually change. Free trade agreements will remain in place in exchange for us keeping open borders with EU member states. This is ideal for the government as it means they don't have to renegotiate any trade deals with the EU but they do gain the control over our laws which would allow them to pass stupid laws like this one. Soft brexit is win win for the Tories.

-Tin foil hat on- I think the referendum was made to fail regardless of result, David Cameron was one of the most corrupt politicians to date desperate to shape Britain his way -Tin foil hat off- yes, you are correct as well, I don't think she is even British IIRC think she had to get a few British companies on her side to take it to court.

 

The issue with Scotlands argument is they're contradiction Parliament Sovereignty, unless they can find tangible evidence that this affects them now, I don't think they can even take it to court until article 50 is triggered, I dunno it's a a mess. We don't even need to use article 50to leave using the royal prerogative, if UKIP is to be believed, hell we didn't even what the Lisbon treaty anyway.

 

And I 100% agree on the soft exit, May isn't bothered if we lose in the courts or at all

[Master Disaster]

4 hours ago, rentaspoon said:

-Tin foil hat on- I think the referendum was made to fail regardless of result, David Cameron was one of the most corrupt politicians to date desperate to shape Britain his way -Tin foil hat off- yes, you are correct as well, I don't think she is even British IIRC think she had to get a few British companies on her side to take it to court.

 

The issue with Scotlands argument is they're contradiction Parliament Sovereignty, unless they can find tangible evidence that this affects them now, I don't think they can even take it to court until article 50 is triggered, I dunno it's a a mess. We don't even need to use article 50to leave using the royal prerogative, if UKIP is to be believed, hell we didn't even what the Lisbon treaty anyway.

 

And I 100% agree on the soft exit, May isn't bothered if we lose in the courts or at all

I think Scotland are using the referendum result as their evidence, the large majority of Scottish voters voted to stay and given the fact they are devolved from the UK they feel they can ask for brexit to be delayed until they've had a second referendum. AFAIK they are speaking at the court case in December to ask the high court to postpone the leave until they've got their answer.

 

Now while she's willing to leave even if the judges say she can't I'm not sure she'd risk the fallout from taking Scotland out against their will. That could cause her a lot of major grief.

[goodtofufriday]

Im so confused as to why the uk governemtn gives a damn? Has there even been mass complaints and protest on porn?

What does the uk stand to gain by banning this? Seems like its just wasted resources. 

 

I feel as though some religious party is at play in the background here. These bans dont make sense in a modern society. 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

On 11/24/2016 at 3:55 PM, Sauron said:

Wait - isn't that black mirror?

So is Waldo becoming president...

 

To be honest, beyond a few details here and there, it's hard to call it "fiction" these days.

[Mooshi]

WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE 30 YEAR OLD CHILDREN

[NovusBal]

♫ The internet is for....wait quickly we need backup lyrics

 

*ahem*

 

♫  The internet is for corn ♫

[ShadowCaptain]

leave our porn alone

[Murdoch]

On 24/11/2016 at 2:23 PM, rentaspoon said:

All EU laws become UK law when we leave, they then have to be petitioned to be removed in court/parliament. Plus this law has been pasted while we are in the EU

Dead pigs and loves to tell porkies ? 

 

He makes a good point, Brexiters seem to be under the impression that the EU passes loads of pointless legislation and it's nothing but a hindrance for the UK. Yet, quite often their laws have a moderating affect on what our own government can get away with. I'm the first to admit the EU is far from perfect, but it's the perfect scapegoat. Thankfully, when we leave, that game can't be played anymore, and people will see how incompetent our government(s) really are.

 

In terms of why we're keeping the EU laws (to start with), it's because we don't have the manpower in the civil service to rewrite 40 years worth of directives that cover large areas in law (it's likely to tie them up for about a decade). But when things are changed / repealed, I wouldn't expect them to be more favourable than what we have now, especially with regards to civil liberties, workers rights, human rights & environmental protection.

 

On 24/11/2016 at 2:34 PM, rentaspoon said:

We are still in the EU and it was deemed brexit wasn't legal, thanks to a law Cameron passed last year that he didn't follow when issuing the referendum. We might not even leave depending on what happens in parliament in the next coming months, hell we might see a vote of no confidence in the goverment.

It's not that the Brexit vote "wasn't legal", it was that the referendum was only advisory, referendums aren't actually how our parliamentary system work we vote for members of parliament who then vote on our behalf on issues. It might sound stupid even putting it to the public, they need to address that and make referendums legally binding, but till then, it's working as it always has. Which was what the court case was about, the Government wanted to use the royal prerogative (similar to an executive order) to trigger article 50. But the Court decision said that they have put it to a parliamentary vote.

 

Regardless, it's just a matter of process and procedure, it'll be voted through in parliament. And even if it wasn't, there would be a snap general election called, then it would be voted through after that, with a clear mandate. Unless of course the UK have changed their minds by then.

[mikeeginger]

First porn then ............................. ?

[Guest]

Won't be effective. Just the UK Government being clowns as usual.

[cluelessgenius]

so youd leave your country for potentially banning your favourite porn?

wow ... that didnt take much.

also where'd you go? the list of open minded countries gets shorter every day

[Princess Luna]

This kind of censoring seems like a waste of resources, makes me glad about Brazil, so full of problems at least I doubt there's a country with more free internet, even torrenting/piracy is "legal" as long as you're not reselling or having profit from it. Regardless, nowadays with the VPN and Proxies being so spread out does it really make sense these country-bans of content? It just feels so easy to bypass them, even in China people bypass the government wall constantly and nobody spends as much money on it than them.