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Just now, Praesi said:

...accused...maybe..

 

I see, you only dealing with facts.

You do know I was making jokes for my past few posts right? Seems like you wont be using your critical reading skills.

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8 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

That's how it's supposed to work. But you need opposition to movements to either side. Sadly, the Republicans for the last few years haven't put up any. Trump won because he came in with a "give no fucks" attitude and slammed the shit out of the left. He had nothing to lose as he isn't a fucking life-long politician (See: Parasite, Scum, etc.) and gave no fucks.

 

And people responded to that.

 

Given his rhetoric about building walls and banning Muslims etc, how extreme do you think Trump will be?

 

I suspect that he'll be middle of the road when it comes to policy. From what I witnessed, what he spouted was mostly populist bluster, I didn't get the impression he had any intention to follow through. Let alone, would I think he'd be allowed to follow through.

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1 minute ago, Murdoch said:

 

Given his rhetoric about building walls and banning Muslims etc, how extreme do you think Trump will be?

 

I suspect that he'll be middle of the road when it comes to policy. From what I witnessed, what he spouted was mostly populist bluster, I didn't get the impression he had any intention to follow through. Let alone, would I think he'd be allowed to follow through.

He wouldn't be allowed to follow through. He's only president. I just hope he can destroy Obama Care, so I can stop being taxed for not having purchased something that I can't fucking afford to purchase.

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Just now, Trik'Stari said:

He wouldn't be allowed to follow through. He's only president. I just hope he can destroy Obama Care, so I can stop being taxed for not having purchased something that I can't fucking afford to purchase.

 

Big spending usually requires Congress aka examples the construction and contracting of the F-35 and other Vehicles. 

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of osamacare  

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1 minute ago, GBELILREESE said:

 

Big spending usualy requires Congress aka examples the construction and contracting of the F-35 and other Vehicles. 

Get rid of the F-35, needs to be in the top ten. It's a garbage plan that doesn't work, and the billions spent on it could be so much more beneficial in other areas.

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Just now, Canada EH said:

Trump is a breath of fresh air.

The XL Pipeline will be built.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hopefully this is only the start of the draining of the swamp.

 

(for non US natives, George Washington gifted the land that is now Washington DC, to the US Government, it was a swamp)

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Just now, Trik'Stari said:

Get rid of the F-35, needs to be in the top ten. It's a garbage plan that doesn't work, and the billions spent on it could be so much more beneficial in other areas.

 

Russian rival craft spend like less than half and are just as good if not as good as the F-35. 

 

Crap plane! 

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Kool Aid voice "Oh yeah!"

Forgive me El Guapo. I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education...

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13 hours ago, Brian McKee said:

lol you're really dense if you don't think illegals are essential to how you live life. I hope you enjoy paying several times more for farm grown foods.

Remember they're willing to do shit jobs that most other Americans won't.

Without getting too political here (good luck with that, am I right?), I want to point out that anyone that wishes to become an American citizen, has the ability to do so. It takes time, it takes effort, but it can be done. Not only that, but allowing people to just bypass the rules and come work as they please, make it unfair for those doing it the right way, does it not? 

 

I won't argue that the cost of living will go up as cheap labor is removed, because chances are it will. HOWEVER, I don't exactly see that as a bad thing, if it means more American workers investing that money back into the economy, rather than sending it to their families abroad. 

 

Mike Rowe did an amazing video where he goes around talking to college kids, asking them about whether or not they'd want to be plumbers and janitors and other "demeaning" jobs, with most of them saying no. He then went on to explain to them how essential these jobs are in society, and how society as a whole would change if these "demeaning" jobs were not performed. Really made me respect those jobs a lot more, and at the same time, reduced the fear I had, about me only amounting to janitorial labor. Taking pride in ones job, no matter how menial, is key. If more American students saw that video, they would probably see things differently, and wouldn't require cheap foreign labor to do it for us.

 

The biggest problem with America right now, is not the politics. It's the people themselves. We all believe ourselves to be destined for greatness, for that slice of "the american dream", and are so consumed by that fantasy that we completely ignore the opportunities and potential that stands right in front of us. Now, I am by no means a wise man on the subject, I am still young myself, but a lot of my peers (aged 20-25) are still unemployed because they refuse to settle for the jobs available in their area. They think that because they have a degree, because they are qualified to use a computer, that they deserve a well paying desk job. They cry foul every single time they are denied employment at such a place, and look for excuses in the darkest places (race, sex, religion, etc) to justify their lack of employment.

 

That being said, i'll avoid politics on this forum from now on. We live in a world where no good comes from talking. 

 

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3 hours ago, fishy said:

as an eastern european, where do you get the ideas that russia will attack us?

most of the slavic countries have very good relationships with eachother, excluding croatia, but most of us get along pretty well, especially with russia

russia recently had some military practices with serbia and belarus (i think, sure it was serbia) in serbia and i can't think there would be any hostility among us

really ppl, i don't get it where you get this info, is western media really that bad?

This is the country that bombed Serbia because they didn't do what our government wanted during Bill Clinton's presidency. Do you really think people over here have any idea about country relations in the slightest?

 

Here's the thing, if you think Trump is going to take away rights from X group you're hilariously ignorant and have no idea how illegal that is, for one. And two, that Trump doesn't want to do that. But listen to the lies you were told and take them as truths.

 

Second, Trump is not going to start war with Russia and Russia is not going to invade Europe. Plain and simple as that. Both of them are aware it's bad for both countries and the rest of the world. The only reason Russia has so many defenses set up pointed at Europe is because you idiots decided to keep prodding them time after time again because ooh ruski scurry. Were it the other way around you'd bitch about constantly having weapons pointed at you too.

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This is why over here in the UK we see the 4th of July as a lucky escape. We haven't got to be directly accountable for Trump so can sit back and watch the US self destruct

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3 minutes ago, GBELILREESE said:

This is why she lost honestly...

 

 

True Trump did a better job getting people out to vote. But it was more so that poor people were getting angry that the gov didnt do anything for them. Guess well see how much Trump cares about them soon.

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Just now, Jack Longman said:

This is why over here in the UK we see the 4th of July as a lucky escape. We haven't got to be directly accountable for Trump so can sit back and watch the US self destruct

Who says that it already hasn't self destructed with Presidents being paid by big corps.

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5 minutes ago, CantThinkOfAUserName said:

True Trump did a better job getting people out to vote. But it was more so that poor people were getting angry that the gov didnt do anything for them. Guess well see how much Trump cares about them soon.

We'll see

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14 minutes ago, GBELILREESE said:

This is why she lost honestly...

 

 

Nah, it's her failures:

List of Hillary Clinton Failures:

  1. Gave Russia a reset button which reset cold war

  2. Lack of a coherent plan to address the Arab Spring

  3. Deteriorating relations with Israel

  4. Assessment of Bashar al-Assad (whom she labeled a “reformer”)

  5. Cluelessness that withdrawal of U.S. forces in Iraq would give the radicals a foothold

  6. Benghazi scandal

  7. Lack of bringing to justice the jihadists who killed our 4 Americans

  8. Victory lap on Osama bin Laden giving a false impression of al-Qaeda’s decimation

  9. Blindsiding the Israeli prime minister with a public declaration of U.S. policy on “1967 borders”

  10. Backing Hugo Chavez’s candidate in Honduras rather that the middle and business classes’ choice (who was also pro-American)

  11. Relaxation of Cuban sanctions followed by Alan Gross’s imprisonment

  12. Surprising Poland and the Czech Republic by pulling out anti-missile sites

  13. Embracing Hosni Mubarak (calling him a family friend) just when pressure was needed to prevent what ultimately became his overthrow

  14. The lack of a cogent approach to the Middle East

  15. Failing to take decisive action in Syria before jihadists poured into the country

  16. The decision to overthrow President Gaddafi in Libya

  17. Downplaying human rights, especially with China

  18. Failing to robustly support the Green Revolution

  19. Engagement of Iran and foot-dragging on sanctions, allowing Iran to reach the cusp of a nuclear weapons capability

  20. Announced “pivot” to Asia without carrying through

  21. Erased email server

  22. Clinton cash

  23. Maintaining the status quo with Pakistan

  24. Lied to FBI and to Congress

  25. Creator of ISIS by pulling out of Iraq too quickly despite military recommendation not to

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i may be in the minority, but i welcome a Donald Trump Presidency 

 

I came into the united states as a Immigrant, legally. i spent my time and got my citizenship.  What made my blood boil was that it took me 2 years to get my citizenship in terms of paperwork. Illegal immigrants take less than a year, closer to 6 months (spoken to a few). is that fair? i spent 8 years on a permanent resident green card (which took 1 year to get) and later got my citizenship. is it fair? i think not. deport all illegal immigrants. do what is only fair. 

 

as much as i'd hate to say it, Syrian refuges cause problems. they do. look at German for example. i dont need to say anymore 

 

the American people have decided. they are sick of the political machines. the silent majority has spoken the truth. it wont be long until the same starts elsewhere. 

 

i look forward to 4 years of Donald trump

 

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I can't stop laughing at all of this. No matter who won this was going to happen. This has happened in the past and everyone was upset then got over it. If we look on the bright side we can see that now we can actually get stuff done and pass laws, amendments, and so on because they are both republican. 

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1 hour ago, MageTank said:

I won't argue that the cost of living will go up as cheap labor is removed, because chances are it will. HOWEVER, I don't exactly see that as a bad thing, if it means more American workers investing that money back into the economy, rather than sending it to their families abroad. 

Honestly I can see why that appears to be fairly important and a more immediate problem. And as a country if you think it's high priority by all means try to solve that issue.

 

However in the grand scheme of things that's basically a real tiny bit of the equation, your economical interdependence with manufacturing and importing goods from abroad is a much far reaching issue and one that no matter his chest pounding, Trump just can't immediately address without upsetting a very delicate trade balance with us and with China. If he tries to just dissolve NAFTA immediately and break all current commercial deals with China it would cause a massive melt down unlike anything we've seen in history. Think the great depression x100 at least.

 

The thing about globalization is that you really can't easily revert things. Sometimes you can't reverse things at all no matter what it's just a bell you can't unring.

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1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

Honestly I can see why that appears to be fairly important and a more immediate problem. And as a country if you think it's high priority by all means try to solve that issue.

 

However in the grand scheme of things that's basically a real tiny bit of the equation, your economical interdependence with manufacturing and importing goods from abroad is a much far reaching issue and one that no matter his chest pounding, Trump just can't immediately address without upsetting a very delicate trade balance with Us and with China. If he tries to just dissolve NAFTA immediately and break all current commercial deals with China it would cause a massive melt down unlike anything we've seen in history. Think the great depression x100 at least.

 

The thing about globalization is that you really can't easily revert things. Sometimes you can't reverse things at all no matter what it's just a bell you can't unring.

I agree with you wholeheartedly on this. However, if he (and American's in general) want to be less reliant on other countries and bring jobs back, that is a hit they are going to have to take. Quality of life will have to suffer before it gets better. There is no easy way out of this. 

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3 minutes ago, MageTank said:

I agree with you wholeheartedly on this. However, if he (and American's in general) want to be less reliant on other countries and bring jobs back, that is a hit they are going to have to take. Quality of life will have to suffer before it gets better. There is no easy way out of this. 

No but over an 8 year period he could start to bring back some key areas of industry (Regrettably probably from us here in Mexico) but some of fairly strategic importance like electronics manufacturing he'd need to leave that the fuck alone for a while. Like a good while.

 

Then there's things that just by mere geography depend entirely on foreign relationships and also can't magically be solved like getting oil, minerals, etc.

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