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I'm curious to know how the 7 is more secure than the 6s or if Tim Cook was just saying that to be funny (when he was asked in the intro). 

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Just now, djdwosk97 said:

I'm not talking about in the general population. I'm talking about people who have used both (i.e. people like Linus, and not just Linus -- linus is a known example). And the key point there is the quality of the screen -- the quality of the screen is more important than the resolution. Once you have a high quality scren the reoslution doesn't make as much of a difference once you've reached a certain point.

 

That could also have to do with scaling or the specific applications being used. 

 

You're right, they have the power to easily handle it....but why? I'd rather have better battery life (and better gaming performance -- read: lasts longer) than an irrelevantly higher resolution screen. 

I haven't seen the event so I can't say how much of a difference 6S and 7 screen is, but, as I've said, there is quite a noticeable difference on 6S and even a G2, a simple video trailer shows it. I'd certainly appreciate the higher res. I'm not talking about anyhing spectacular but a simple 1080p screen. Screen quality absolutely matters, that's why my HTC One X with 720p on 4.7'' is even worse than the 6S. 

The thing is that 6S has a better battery life with 1715 mah than my G2 with 3200 mah (Polarcell battery), and it can last for a loooong time. If it were that bad I wouldn't ask for a higher res screen, but in my opinion, it could have higher res and still have a great battery life, actually above average, especially with ~200 mah increase in 7 iirc?

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Just now, thehardwarehacker said:

Now, we are in agreement. Yes we know Apple to do this with dam near everything they do, though you would have to admit that when it comes to Apple's shit, all that can be done is to bite the bullet, and use it for what it's worth.

Or, as in my case, just not use it at all~

I will give the Earpods this, though: I haven't seen any major audio company copy Apple's stupid decisions with the Earpods, and that's more than I can say for a lot Apple stuff.

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3 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

I haven't seen the event so I can't say how much of a difference 6S and 7 screen is, but, as I've said, there is quite a noticeable difference on 6S and even a G2, a simple video trailer shows it. I'd certainly appreciate the higher res. I'm not talking about anyhing spectacular but a simple 1080p screen. Screen quality absolutely matters, that's why my HTC One X with 720p on 4.7'' is even worse than the 6S. 

The thing is that 6S has a better battery life with 1715 mah than my G2 with 3200 mah (Polarcell battery), and it can last for a loooong time. If it were that bad I wouldn't ask for a higher res screen, but in my opinion, it could have higher res and still have a great battery life, actually above average, especially with ~200 mah increase in 7 iirc?

I don't know what the physical increase is, but it's rated for an extra two hours or so. 

 

And I'd be happy if my 6s+ lasted a bit longer -- I already only charge it every other day or so, but I'd still be happy to get another few hours of battery life. 

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31 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

The S6 and S7 are already water-proof, WITH a headphone jack. If anything, they'll be the ones continuing to improve on the 3.5mm hack such as better on-board DAC, amp and sound processor, then watch how Apple does a 180 at light speed.

*water resistant. Not waterproof. 

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4 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

*water resistant. Not waterproof. 

The S7 has the same (marginally/irrelevantly better) rated resistance. The s7 is ip68 (up to 1.5 meters) while the iphone 7 is ip67 (up to 1 meter). But it's also improtant to realize that both numbers could be under-estimations, and seeing as both are resistance and not proof and that water voids both warranties, I don't think the difference matters. 

 

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7 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

The S7 has the same (marginally/irrelevantly better) rated resistance. The s7 is ip68 (up to 1.5 meters) while the iphone 7 is ip67 (up to 1 meter). But it's also improtant to realize that both numbers could be under-estimations, and seeing as both are resistance and not proof and that water voids both warranties, I don't think the difference matters. 

 

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at least its not as silly as Sony advertising their phone to shoot photos underwater and then proceeds to make a statement that this will void your warranty.

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Yup, forgot that IP67 is water resistant, not water proof.

 

There, makes it even more of a pathetic excuse to not stay with the industry standards.

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33 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

The S7 has the same (marginally/irrelevantly better) rated resistance. The s7 is ip68 (up to 1.5 meters) while the iphone 7 is ip67 (up to 1 meter). But it's also improtant to realize that both numbers could be under-estimations, and seeing as both are resistance and not proof and that water voids both warranties, I don't think the difference matters. 

 

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yeah i get it. I have a S7 edge. gawked at the spec for long enough to know. 

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1 hour ago, Dash Lambda said:

Good point (specifically about "well" and "fine")...

The reason I say the Earpods are poorly designed is because they put aesthetics above comfort in a product for which comfort is the most important factor. Other companies realize that a hard shape which relies on the user's ear to conform to it can not be comfortable for everyone, so they make earphones with inserts that conform to the shape of the user's ear (in various different flavors, of course). Apple sacrificed that comfort in favor of a 'clean' look, which resulted in a product which is inherently inferior to those of other companies in a very important way.

Personally I find the apple earbuds to be the most comfortable "low end" headphones. I hate the silicone or foam insert type earbuds. But as you said its up to the user. 

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18 hours ago, mrchow19910319 said:

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13 minutes ago, Nineshadow said:

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The difference: people will actually use Apple's dual-camera feature.  Both because the software will be easier to understand and because Apple is going to sell many, many more iPhone 7 Pluses than LG will V20s.

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Being an Apple follower not fanboy, and owning the 6s Plus. I can truly say what a load of garbage. Sure quad core with awesome speed is great but $159 for headphones or a stupid adapter. You have to be joking. Oh also great design looks like the 6 and the 6s looked like the 6 too. I can safely say most people buying an iPhone don't buy it because it has an A10 CPU inside. They buy it because it is the latest and greatest and is similar enough from last time they know how to use it. I already talked to some non techy people and they all said the head phone thing made them not want it and instead are buying s7s.

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7 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Being an Apple follower not fanboy, and owning the 6s Plus. I can truly say what a load of garbage. Sure quad core with awesome speed is great but $159 for headphones or a stupid adapter. You have to be joking. Oh also great design looks like the 6 and the 6s looked like the 6 too. I can safely say most people buying an iPhone don't buy it because it has an A10 CPU inside. They buy it because it is the latest and greatest and is similar enough from last time they know how to use it. I already talked to some non techy people and they all said the head phone thing made them not want it and instead are buying s7s.

Not a big fan of the price of the ear pods either but I do like the fact that they have no cables to a silly battery and processor on your neck like most other wireless earbuds. I do hate the fact that they removed the analog headphone adapter as well. Lastly the iPhone looks similar as they are saving the big stuff for next year ;) (10th anniversary of the iPhone)

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13 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Being an Apple follower not fanboy, and owning the 6s Plus. I can truly say what a load of garbage. Sure quad core with awesome speed is great but $159 for headphones or a stupid adapter. You have to be joking. Oh also great design looks like the 6 and the 6s looked like the 6 too. I can safely say most people buying an iPhone don't buy it because it has an A10 CPU inside. They buy it because it is the latest and greatest and is similar enough from last time they know how to use it. I already talked to some non techy people and they all said the head phone thing made them not want it and instead are buying s7s.

$160 for truly wireless earbuds isn't that outrageous -- most of the competition in that field is in the $150-$250 range too. The lightning to 3.5mm adapter is kind of annoying, but it's not really an issue for most people since most people only have a single pair of headphones, so the only real downside is the fact that you can't listen to music and charge it at the same time -- and that also doesn't really affect most people most of the time. 

 

The fact that it looks the same as the 6/6s will negatively impact sales quite a bit imo. Although I guess they didn't want to do two radical redesigns in a row (since they want something special for the 10th iPhone -- 7s).

 

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5 minutes ago, Jack_of_all_Trades said:

 

Loving the solutions to the problem we never had before and they artificially created.

A) It's not like Apple is the only (or even first) to get rid of the headphone jack. 

B) So what about PCIE 4? Currently PCIE 3 isn't an issue, so maybe we shouldn't develop PCIE 4.0 until 3.0 is causing problems... A digital signal gives you additional future potential that analog does not. 

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29 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Being an Apple follower not fanboy, and owning the 6s Plus. I can truly say what a load of garbage. Sure quad core with awesome speed is great but $159 for headphones or a stupid adapter. You have to be joking. Oh also great design looks like the 6 and the 6s looked like the 6 too. I can safely say most people buying an iPhone don't buy it because it has an A10 CPU inside. They buy it because it is the latest and greatest and is similar enough from last time they know how to use it. I already talked to some non techy people and they all said the head phone thing made them not want it and instead are buying s7s.

Wait. When was the last Time Samsung changed the design ? Why do People care about using the Adapter ? They have the Balls to move forward and try something new. Instead of bashing on them everyone should give them Props. I will buy it cuz it has a great Camera, the fastest CPU on the Market, no Headphone Jack ( Again big Props for moving forward ) oh and i realy like the Design. Nice and clean looking. Peace hater

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4 minutes ago, somebody* said:

Wait. When was the last Time Samsung changed the design ?

 

Why do People care about using the Adapter ? They have the Balls to move forward and try something new. Instead of bashing on them everyone should give them Props.

 

I will buy it cuz it has a great Camera, the fastest CPU on the Market, no Headphone Jack ( Again big Props for moving forward ) oh and i realy like the Design. Nice and clean looking. Peace hater

People definitely do care about the design. They want something new -- they get tired of the old design. 

 

Because right now there isn't much benefit to losing the 3.5mm jack and it means you can't charge and listen to music at the same time (although I expect the former to change and the latter to be a mostly irrelevant issue for most people most of the time -- and the rest can buy a different product). 

 

The camera is the reason I'm even considering selling my 6s+ and getting a 7+. Although I probably won't because I won't want to spend $350~ to upgrade ($870 for the 7+ and selling my 6s+ for $500-$550).

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1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

People definitely do care about the design. They want something new -- they get tired of the old design. 

 

Because right now there isn't much benefit to losing the 3.5mm jack and it means you can't charge and listen to music at the same time (although I expect the former to change and the latter to be a mostly irrelevant issue for most people most of the time -- and the rest can buy a different product). 

 

The camera is the reason I'm even considering selling my 6s+ and getting a 7+. Although I probably won't because I won't want to spend $350~ to upgrade ($870 for the 7+ and selling my 6s+ for $500-$550).

Either you missunderstood me or i wasnt being clear. The guy i quoted said he doesnt like how Apple didnt change the Design since the 6. Hope this will make my point of view a bit clearer

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6 minutes ago, somebody* said:

Instead of bashing on them everyone should give them Props.

Why exactly? Please do elaborate why we should be eternally grateful to them.

 

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The Apple September keynote talking mainly about the new iPhone is going on now at

 

 

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Just now, Bouzoo said:

Why exactly? Please do elaborate why we should be eternally grateful to them.

 

Already said that in my Post. I will repeat myself for you tho. I feel like instead of hating on new things People should try the new thing first. Or wait on Reviews or some sh*t. NOBODY tried removing the Headphone Jack and do it all via Lightning. They did.

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