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Windows 7         Htc one       galaxy note 4

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Windows 10      Htc 10         galaxy note 7

 

Whats with tech companies that they have to skip a number

Why make the lives of us techies harder by making us explain to non techies that there was no windows 9 and we don't know why

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Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One.

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"one" is when tech companies got into having that "one" device to rule them all such as Microsoft with the xbox one. Mostly they feel that they changed too much for it not to skip a number.

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2 minutes ago, FanBlade said:

Windows 7         Htc one       galaxy note 4

Windiws 8          Htc one       galaxy note 5

Windows 10      Htc 10         galaxy note 7

 

Whats with tech companies that they have to skip a number

Why make the lives of us techies harder by making us explain to non techies that there was no windows 9 and we don't know why

Well, Samsung wanted to bring their Note series in line with the S series. HTC had the M9 before, and Microsoft idek

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it has been going on for decades windows 95 to windows 98 to windows ME to windows 2000..

not really a new thing to be all yikes! about.

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9 minutes ago, FanBlade said:

Windows 7         Htc one       galaxy note 4

Windiws 8          Htc one       galaxy note 5

Windows 10      Htc 10         galaxy note 7

 

Whats with tech companies that they have to skip a number

Why make the lives of us techies harder by making us explain to non techies that there was no windows 9 and we don't know why

Maybe the number 6 has a negative connotation in Korea?  Maybe it's like elevators not having a 13th floor in some regions, or where certain sets of items are not sold in sets of 4 or 9 in Japan.

 

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Im pretty sure Barnacules  stated it was due to lazy developers. Back in the days of Windows 95 and 98 they used to code thing with Win 9x. There is fear that it could break something if they added Windows 9 in to the mix. Its kinda like the Y2K bug, were they used two digit dates because of lazyness, then had to go to 4 digit dates to make sure they didnt break shit. 

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Made a python script to help companies out

 

product = "HTC"
max = 10
for i in range(1,max+1):
	print("Say hello to the new {0} {1}".format(product, i));

 

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11 minutes ago, FanBlade said:

Why make the lives of us techies harder by making us explain to non techies that there was no windows 9 and we don't know why

Because Seven ate Nine.

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7 minutes ago, Minibois said:

Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One.

Or better yet. The word 'New'. New Nintendo 3DS.

 

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8 minutes ago, keNNySOC said:

You should have 135 posts? is this a bug?

It says 134 as I write

 

8 minutes ago, vorticalbox said:

"one" is when tech companies got into having that "one" device to rule them all such as Microsoft with the xbox one. Mostly they feel that they changed too much for it not to skip a number.

But people will think that the "one" is the original

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there is already a topic about this, so I say repost/retoast

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14 minutes ago, FanBlade said:

Windows 7         Htc one       galaxy note 4

Windiws 8          Htc one       galaxy note 5

Windows 10      Htc 10         galaxy note 7

 

Whats with tech companies that they have to skip a number

Why make the lives of us techies harder by making us explain to non techies that there was no windows 9 and we don't know why

Microsoft's official PR statement was that the Windows after 8 would be so awesome, it'd skip a version number. But there are theories that suggest that there were some developers who were so dumb/lazy in the Windows 9x days that when checking to see which Windows you had, they'd only check for "Windows 9".

 

There's no Galaxy Note 6 because Samsung wanted to synchronize the numbers with the Galaxy.

 

I can't explain HTC.

 

EDIT: Actually the HTC 10 comes from the model names they used. The last one being the HTC One M9.

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16 minutes ago, FanBlade said:

Why make the lives of us techies harder by making us explain to non techies that there was no windows 9 and we don't know why

If I recall correctly, part of the reasoning starts like this: when a legacy program starts it runs a little bit of code that tells the program what Windows version it's running on. It goes something like "if OS name starts with Windows 9 then it's either Windows 95 or 98."

Calling it Windows 9 would ruin this system and potentially break a lot of legacy software, so they skipped it.

 

Plus Microsoft thought Windows 9 was too close a number to 8/8.1 which they wanted to distance themselves from for obvious reasons. Even though I like Windows 8.1

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16 minutes ago, FanBlade said:

Htc one

Htc one

Htc 10

Way to cherry-pick. M8, M9/A9, 10.

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Also Windows 7 doesn't make sense because there's nothing that adds up to 7. It's not the 7th version of Windows NT (it's the 4th or 5th if you count Windows Server 2003). It's not the 7th version of Windows for consumers (that'd be either 98 SE, Me, or XP, depending on if you count 3.0 and 3.1 the same or separate and 98 and 98 SE the same or separate). And the NT kernel was 6.1 (which... I guess if you add the digits adds up to 7 but that's weak).

 

At least Windows 10 uses the NT 10 kernel.

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They are a number of reasons at play.

Mostly, it is marketing, For example, XBox 3, sounds like it is older than the PlayStation 4, so they went with "One", because it says "the one device you need for your entertainment need in your living room".

 

Windows Me was used because Windows 2000 was used already. And Windows 2000 was used over NT5, because back in the day "2000" sounded cool, futuristic and all that, and everything had "2000", "3000", "4000" in model names and so on.

 

Windows 10 was used instead of Windows 9, because many software, to detect if you are using Windows 95 or 98, checks to see if there is a match in the Windows version for "Windows 9", instead of actually getting the version number of the OS and processing it. Old code that was reused over the many years up to today. So, to avoid software saying "Error OS not supported", type of messages, or if it is a legacy software, not think that it is Windows 96/98 running and using old APIs and files, to only crash instead of using Windows XP and up API.

 

As for Titan X (2016) for the Pascal architecture. Titan P doesn't sound as good as Titan X, and Titan XP sounds like it is legacy old hardware from Windows XP days, not helped with the fact that many things had "XP" as they were capitalizing on that (including peripherals, and products that had nothing to do with computers).

 

XP was used as it sounded better than 2001. Also, using years in products, Microsoft realized that it after 1-2 years it sounds old (although they are advantages in pushing newer software... I mean imagine if Windows XP was called Windows 2001, I think people would have switched to Windows 7 much more easily).

 

And all these reasons changes over time, as perceptions of people changes, and so there is no "master rule book", hence why 80's marketing doesn't work in the 90's, and 90's marketing doesn't work in early 2000, and today.

 

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39 minutes ago, airdeano said:

it has been going on for decades windows 95 to windows 98 to windows ME to windows 2000..

not really a new thing to be all yikes! about.

but that was different, those were named after the year they were released in

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4 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

They are a number of reasons at play.

Mostly, it is marketing, For example, XBox 3, sounds like it is older than the PlayStation 4, so they went with "One", because it says "the one device you need for your entertainment need in your living room".

 

Windows Me was used because Windows 2000 was used already. And Windows 2000 was used over NT5, because back in the day "2000" sounded cool, futuristic and all that, and everything had "2000", "3000", "4000" in model names and so on.

 

Windows 10 was used instead of Windows 9, because many software, to detect if you are using Windows 95 or 98, checks to see if there is a match in the Windows version for "Windows 9", instead of actually getting the version number of the OS and processing it. Old code that was reused over the many years up to today. So, to avoid software saying "Error OS not supported", type of messages, or if it is a legacy software, not think that it is Windows 96/98 running and using old APIs and files, to only crash instead of using Windows XP and up API.

 

As for Titan X (2016) for the Pascal architecture. Titan P doesn't sound as good as Titan X, and Titan XP sounds like it is legacy old hardware from Windows XP days, not helped with the fact that many things had "XP" as they were capitalizing on that (including peripherals, and products that had nothing to do with computers).

 

XP was used as it sounded better than 2001, also using years in products, Microsoft realized that it after 1-2 years it sounds old (although they are advantages in pushing newer software... I mean imagine if Windows XP was called Windows 2001, I think people would have switched to Windows 7 much easily).

 

And all these reasons changes over time, as perceptions of people changes, and so there is no "master rule book", hence why 80's marketing doesn't work in the 90's, and 90's marketing doesn't work in early 2000, and today.

Why not call it something like Titan x ii or Titan x v2

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3 minutes ago, FanBlade said:

Why not call it something like Titan x ii or Titan x v2

I am no marketing expert. But, to me it sounds like "this is still revision 2. Revision 1 had issues that we fixed". Also, it is long.

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Just now, GoodBytes said:

I am no marketing expert. But, to me it sounds like "this is still revision 2. Revision 1 had issues that we fixed"

So will Nvidia always keep calling the Titan x forever? They ran out of names 

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7 minutes ago, FanBlade said:

So will Nvidia always keep calling the Titan x forever? They ran out of names 

Well... they did call 3 products "Nvidia Shield"... :|

Soon: "NVIDIA Shield the graphics card", " NVIDIA Shield the Physics engine", " NVIDIA Shield the parallel computing platform", "NVIDIA Shield the toilet paper", and of course: "NVIDIA Shield the flame thrower".

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8 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Well... they did call 3 products "Nvidia Shield"... :|

Soon: "NVIDIA Shield the graphics card", " NVIDIA Shield the Physics engine", " NVIDIA Shield the parallel computing platform", "NVIDIA Shield the toilet paper", and of course: "NVIDIA Shield the flame thrower".

And the "NVIDIA Shield shield." Or would it be NVIDIA Shield2?

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Well, LG "Optimus" G, G2, G3, G4, V10, G5, V20... Wait what!? They know how to count!?

 

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