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23 hours ago, Sky Yuki said:

I still use Tier 7 FSP Hexa.
Bought it 5 years ago and still using it as good as new.
Tell me a reason why I should change to tier 1.

Since you're asking that way and marking other people's Post as funny, you don't seem to want to replace the PSU and believe its a good PSU.


So you don't really come to this discussion with an open mind and I have to ask you what you really want to hear?! That its fine to use an old, group regulated unit that might, or might not, be broken??

Here you can see what might happen:

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-07/cooler-master-cougar-xfx-zalman-netzteil-test/3/#abschnitt_spannungsregulation

 

Voltage out of spec that damages your components, +5V and +12V dependant on each other, so that everything that happens on one rail, happens on the oher kinda as well. 

23 hours ago, ray12 said:

hi everyone, is cm mwe 450 is ok to power an old i7 sandybridge + gtx960 ? for light gaming and office mostly. Mwe 450 is quite cheap in local store near me, im not sure about its durability though..

No.

If you're in Europe, the be quiet System Power (400W and up) is a way better option, if the U9 is available that should also be OK.

 

Minimum requirement for a PSU is independant voltage regulation for all rails...

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1 hour ago, Stefan Payne said:

Since you're asking that way and marking other people's Post as funny, you don't seem to want to replace the PSU and believe its a good PSU.

Nah quite the opposite. It is because I will throw my PSU out of the window soon anyway.
I just upgraded to ryzen two days ago and was in a process of thinking if I should upgrade my GPU or PSU first.
Of course I will upgrade my PSU first after all these comments.

(psst I use GTX 460)

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On 10/30/2018 at 8:13 PM, MEC-777 said:

I would recommend changing it. It's a low-quality unit.

 

6 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Since you're asking that way and marking other people's Post as funny, you don't seem to want to replace the PSU and believe its a good PSU.


So you don't really come to this discussion with an open mind and I have to ask you what you really want to hear?! That its fine to use an old, group regulated unit that might, or might not, be broken??

Here you can see what might happen:

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-07/cooler-master-cougar-xfx-zalman-netzteil-test/3/#abschnitt_spannungsregulation

 

Voltage out of spec that damages your components, +5V and +12V dependant on each other, so that everything that happens on one rail, happens on the oher kinda as well. 

No.

If you're in Europe, the be quiet System Power (400W and up) is a way better option, if the U9 is available that should also be OK.

 

Minimum requirement for a PSU is independant voltage regulation for all rails...

Thanks for the advice, i will reconsider my options

found used pure power 10 600w for 16 bucks more than the new mwe 450 is it a better choice?

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1 hour ago, ray12 said:

 

Thanks for the advice, i will reconsider my options

found used pure power 10 600w for 16 bucks more than the new mwe 450 is it a better choice?

No, used PSU are NEVER a good choice because you loose the warranty with most manufacturers like Corsair and some offer a greatly reduced warranty of up to 3 Years for the second buyer.

 

As for the Price: A _NEW_ Pure Power 10/500W is only ~5€ more than the MEW 450.

The 400W is actually cheaper with ~46€.

The MWE450 is listed for 51€ here right now...

 

So you don't even save money!

As the Pure Power 10/600W is only ~17€ more when getting new. The CM is ~24€ more...

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So I went with a Corsair RMx unit after shopping around, but of course the next day a Cooler Master V series PSU goes on sale. How do the two compare regarding performance / long-term safety? I imagine the RMx is a tad better, but by how much?

 

Sorry for all the questions!

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24 minutes ago, split_ said:

So I went with a Corsair RMx unit after shopping around, but of course the next day a Cooler Master V series PSU goes on sale. How do the two compare regarding performance / long-term safety? I imagine the RMx is a tad better, but by how much?

 

Sorry for all the questions!

You can feel confident in what you got. I wouldn't worry about it. Both are very good units. 

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10 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

You can feel confident in what you got. I wouldn't worry about it. Both are very good units. 

I'll be happy to finish up my build regardless, but there is a $40 difference between the two. I'm looking to keep the PSU around for hopefully 7-8 years or so, so as long as the CM is safe and well-enough made I'm happy to go through the hassle of returning the already-bought PSU.

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22 minutes ago, split_ said:

I'll be happy to finish up my build regardless, but there is a $40 difference between the two. I'm looking to keep the PSU around for hopefully 7-8 years or so, so as long as the CM is safe and well-enough made I'm happy to go through the hassle of returning the already-bought PSU.

The RMx is better, I'd keep it

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8 hours ago, split_ said:

I'll be happy to finish up my build regardless, but there is a $40 difference between the two. I'm looking to keep the PSU around for hopefully 7-8 years or so, so as long as the CM is safe and well-enough made I'm happy to go through the hassle of returning the already-bought PSU.

The RMx is just as good or better. Just keep it. ;)

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is corsair vengeance 650m any good?I'm planning to pair it with a 1070 ti

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1 minute ago, Panos_Vl said:

is corsair vengeance 650m any good?I'm planning to pair it with a 1070 ti

It's decent. Though, you should be able to get the Formula Gold 450W for about the same price. 

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On 10/31/2018 at 9:39 PM, Stefan Payne said:

No, used PSU are NEVER a good choice because you loose the warranty with most manufacturers like Corsair and some offer a greatly reduced warranty of up to 3 Years for the second buyer.

 

As for the Price: A _NEW_ Pure Power 10/500W is only ~5€ more than the MEW 450.

The 400W is actually cheaper with ~46€.

The MWE450 is listed for 51€ here right now...

 

So you don't even save money!

As the Pure Power 10/600W is only ~17€ more when getting new. The CM is ~24€ more...

thanks for ur advice! i really appreciate it

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1 hour ago, seon123 said:

It's decent. Though, you should be able to get the Formula Gold 450W for about the same price. 

i can buy a seasonic m12II 620 evo in that price is it better?

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34 minutes ago, Panos_Vl said:

i can buy a seasonic m12II 620 evo in that price is it better?

No. That's among the worst PSUs you can get for the price. 

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10 minutes ago, seon123 said:

No. That's among the worst PSUs you can get for the price. 

Thank you for the advice but damn it costs around 100 usd where i live

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2 hours ago, ray12 said:

thanks for ur advice! i really appreciate it

Though I have to say that I'd only recommend 400 and 500W Versions, 600W and up don't seem to make too much sense to me....

1 hour ago, Panos_Vl said:

i can buy a seasonic m12II 620 evo in that price is it better?

Seasonic S12II 620W and below is an entry level unit, comparable to Cooler Master Master Watt Lite or Corsair VS. With a bit of Lipstick put on it (Wapanese capacitors). but those are actually BETTER than the S12II or M12II.

As they actually have working protection, the Seasonic does not.

 

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50 minutes ago, Panos_Vl said:

Thank you for the advice but damn it costs around 100 usd where i live

Getting a new computer is more expensive than getting a good PSU.

Something to think about.


PSU to PC is similar to Oil in Cars.

Good oil prolongs the life of the motor, crappy or old oil damages (or rather increases wear and tear).

Its the same with PC Components...

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2 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Though I have to say that I'd only recommend 400 and 500W Versions, 600W and up don't seem to make too much sense to me....

Seasonic S12II 620W and below is an entry level unit, comparable to Cooler Master Master Watt Lite or Corsair VS. With a bit of Lipstick put on it (Wapanese capacitors). but those are actually BETTER than the S12II or M12II.

As they actually have working protection, the Seasonic does not.

 

Here more Infos:

Getting a new computer is more expensive than getting a good PSU.

Something to think about.


PSU to PC is similar to Oil in Cars.

Good oil prolongs the life of the motor, crappy or old oil damages (or rather increases wear and tear).

Its the same with PC Components...

Yes you are right i should not cheap out on the psu,i'll get the bitfenix one then.Thank you for your time and effort

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3 hours ago, Panos_Vl said:

Thank you for the advice but damn it costs around 100 usd where i live

The 450W? How about the Whisper M, Focus, TXM or Earthwatts Gold Pro?

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16 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The 450W? How about the Whisper M, Focus, TXM or Earthwatts Gold Pro?

i'm between bitfenix formula gold 550m,be quiet power 10 500w and corsair tx550m.The cheapest is the be quiet at 77$ and the other two are 95-100$(same goes for earthwatts).Which is the best?Sorry for the bother

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Just now, Panos_Vl said:

i'm between bitfenix formula gold 550m,be quiet power 10 500w and corsair tx550m.The cheapest is the be quiet at 77$ and the other two are 95-100$(same goes for earthwatts).Which is the best?Sorry for the bother

What about the 450W versions? The 1070 Ti is a 175W card, so that's like 250W total system power consumption under load. You don't need a ≥500W PSU for that. 

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6 hours ago, seon123 said:

What about the 450W versions? The 1070 Ti is a 175W card, so that's like 250W total system power consumption under load. You don't need a ≥500W PSU for that. 

They are 5-10$ cheaper.I've also found a seasonic focus plus 550w for 97$

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7 hours ago, Panos_Vl said:

They are 5-10$ cheaper.I've also found a seasonic focus plus 550w for 97$

The Pure Power 10 should be fine. The Focus Plus is considered higher end than the others, so it's probably the best value among the $100 ones. 

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8 hours ago, seon123 said:

What about the 450W versions? The 1070 Ti is a 175W card, so that's like 250W total system power consumption under load. You don't need a ≥500W PSU for that. 

 

8 hours ago, Panos_Vl said:

They are 5-10$ cheaper.I've also found a seasonic focus plus 550w for 97$

TDP is not the same as power draw, just want to make that distinction. NVIDIA recommends a 500W PSU, which means you'd probably be ok with a 450, depending on your CPU and if you're overclocking or not.

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29 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

 

TDP is not the same as power draw, just want to make that distinction. NVIDIA recommends a 500W PSU, which means you'd probably be ok with a 450, depending on your CPU and if you're overclocking or not.

The TDP is the limit of how much heat the card produces at stock. All of that heat comes from the power draw, and there is nothing else to draw a significant amount of power. Meaning power draw for Pascal = TDP. Which is confirmed by reviewers. 

Noone gives a damn about Nvidia's PSU recommendation, as it's a worst case scenario, with a garbage PSU. 

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