PSU Tier List [OLD]

[LienusLateTips]

3 minutes ago, Misxgi said:

These are very expensive lmao.

55 euro is a lot more expensive than 47 euro?????

1 hour ago, LienusLateTips said:

Shittier than the last one you brought up

https://www.amazon.de/Quiet-Pure-Power-Netzteil-BN272/dp/B01N34WRZ3/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1533326888&sr=1-2&keywords=pure+power+10

https://www.amazon.de/Corsair-CX450M-PC-Netzteil-Teil-Modulares-Kabelmanagement/dp/B019NWTCEA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1533326872&sr=8-1&keywords=cx450m

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Misxgi said:

These are very expensive lmao.

No.  They're not.  You just have a warped sense of value.

 

[STRMfrmXMN]

10 hours ago, Misxgi said:

Okay, so these are the PSUs I can buy from local stores in my price range: 

 

• FSP 500W Hyper K 500 OEM 
• Zalman 500W ZM500-TX
• Chieftec 600W Element ELP-600S 
• Cooler Master Elite V3 600W MPW-6001-ACABN1-EU
• Zalman 500W ZM500-LX 
• Cooler Master 500W MWE MPW-5002-ACABW-NL OEM
• Chieftec 700W iARENA GPA-700S 
• Njoy 600W Titan 600
• Cooler Master MPX-4501-ACAAB-EU 450W
• Chieftec ECO 500W GPE-500S 
• Chieftec iARENA 600W GPC-600S or 450W
• Corsair VS Series VS450 450W White (CP-9020170)
• Thermaltake Litepower 650W PS-LTP-0650NPCNEU-2 or 550W
• Chieftec Smart 500W CTGPS500A8 
• Aerocool VX-450 AEROPGSVX-450 450W or 550W
• FSP FSP500-60APN 500W Bronze (9PA5005601)

I know, that's a lot, sorry:) I'm thinking about buying from Amazon.de, found this: link on sale..maybe I'm going to order this.
 

None of those should be powering an RX 480 really.

 

The Cooler Master MWE is probably the best bet of those.

[STRMfrmXMN]

6 hours ago, Misxgi said:

These are very expensive lmao.

No they aren't. Your idea of what is expensive is backwards.

 

You can spend 50 on a terrible PSU or 58 on a good PSU.

 

That's all the reason you really should need to spend 8 Euros more.

[Stefan Payne]

7 hours ago, Misxgi said:

These are very expensive lmao.

Yes and extend the Life of your components.

 

If you want new PC after 2 or 3 years, go for the cheap PSU.

If you want new PC after 10 years or so, get the good PSU..

 

There is no free lunch!

You get what you pay for!

If you pay nothing, you will get nothing...

[Misxgi]

Hey everyone, I found an used FSP Hyper S 500W with more than 2 years warranty, the shop gives 3 years so it must be in a good shape, the price is €38 with shipping. Hmm..is it a good deal? I don't know.

[LienusLateTips]

5 minutes ago, Misxgi said:

Hey everyone, I found an used FSP Hyper S 500W with more than 2 years warranty, the shop gives 3 years so it must be in a good shape, the price is €38 with shipping. Hmm..is it a good deal? I don't know.

NO WILL YOU TAKE OUR ADVICE STOP ASKING

[STRMfrmXMN]

17 minutes ago, Misxgi said:

Hey everyone, I found an used FSP Hyper S 500W with more than 2 years warranty, the shop gives 3 years so it must be in a good shape, the price is €38 with shipping. Hmm..is it a good deal? I don't know.

If you're not going to take our advice then please just leave.

 

It's not a good unit. Get a CX450/M, Cooler Master MasterWatt, anything to power an RX 480 that won't require home insurance.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

17 hours ago, LienusLateTips said:

NO WILL YOU TAKE OUR ADVICE STOP ASKING

Someone's ticked off

[Stefan Payne]

Well, if you constantly ask and ignore the advice, its expected to happen.

 

And there are still people who don't understand the Value of a Miele Washing machine. Although they are expensive, they are built very well and usually last for a decad or two.

 

 

Its the same shit with everything, if you're not willing to pay for stuff, it either won't last or even cause harm, wich happens with the cheapest of the cheap stuff on a regular basis...

And here we have someone that looks for the biggest deal in history...

But that is just impossible. You can't build a PSU cheaper than others because everyone has access to the same components. So the only way you can make it cheaper is to make it shittier than the others.

Or in more extreme cases, cut corners and make the device unsafe...

 

Well, sometimes someone just hast to learn the stuff the hard way - with a PSU killing his PC...

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

2 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Well, if you constantly ask and ignore the advice, its expected to happen.

 

And there are still people who don't understand the Value of a Miele Washing machine. Although they are expensive, they are built very well and usually last for a decad or two.

 

 

Its the same shit with everything, if you're not willing to pay for stuff, it either won't last or even cause harm, wich happens with the cheapest of the cheap stuff on a regular basis...

And here we have someone that looks for the biggest deal in history...

But that is just impossible. You can't build a PSU cheaper than others because everyone has access to the same components. So the only way you can make it cheaper is to make it shittier than the others.

Or in more extreme cases, cut corners and make the device unsafe...

 

Well, sometimes someone just hast to learn the stuff the hard way - with a PSU killing his PC...

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this

[STRMfrmXMN]

3 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Well, if you constantly ask and ignore the advice, its expected to happen.

 

And there are still people who don't understand the value of a Miele Washing machine. Although they are expensive, they are built very well and usually last for a decad or two.

 

"Buy nice or buy twice" I always say. Except, in this instance, buying once could mean the end of your PC soo......

 

Didn't know Miele made washing machines. I have a vacuum from them that I've absolutely annihilated by bumping it into things around the house, getting frustrated at it getting caught on stuff and tugging it, and neglected the bag inside for months. It still works. 

[comicsansms]

3 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

And there are still people who don't understand the Value of a Miele Washing machine. Although they are expensive, they are built very well and usually last for a decad or two.

I'd expect a fair bit more than a decade out of a Miele washing machine or dishwasher, (Electrolux's stuff should last a decade if maintained correctly), but yeah, exactly the point; you pay more, it works better and lasts longer.

[Stefan Payne]

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

"Buy nice or buy twice" I always say. Except, in this instance, buying once could mean the end of your PC soo......

Yeah, I know these discussions with people who wanted the (at the time) Huntkey Made LC-6550 (guess why it's called that) or other low cost crap that either doesn't work with some companys or causes problems or explodes...

 

And many of those come back a year or two later with everything dead....

 

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Didn't know Miele made washing machines. I have a vacuum from them that I've absolutely annihilated by bumping it into things around the house, getting frustrated at it getting caught on stuff and tugging it, and neglected the bag inside for months. It still works. 

Probably not everywhere in the World.

Here in Germany Miele is one of the Big ones and they make everything we call "White Ware" like Fridges, Freezer, Washing machine, Dish Washer, Dryer (not the Hair ones, I think).

Essentially everything for the Kitchen.

 

And also some industrial stuff like this small, cheap Washing Machine
https://www.grimm-gastrobedarf.de/miele-waschautomat-pw-5105-vario-octoblau_mieg-51-5105-06.html?___store=b2c_de&_cclid=v3_0bdf509d-3fe5-5d1a-b3bf-4570fea2a571&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnZXbBRC8ARIsABEYg6DjpMxvpt-eMeD-Lsdj8TpHRnthxk7No7eJ_c3mla3jL1o8n14D0wUaAmNUEALw_wcB

[seon123]

1 minute ago, Stefan Payne said:

And also some industrial stuff like this small, cheap Washing Machine
https://www.grimm-gastrobedarf.de/miele-waschautomat-pw-5105-vario-octoblau_mieg-51-5105-06.html?___store=b2c_de&_cclid=v3_0bdf509d-3fe5-5d1a-b3bf-4570fea2a571&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnZXbBRC8ARIsABEYg6DjpMxvpt-eMeD-Lsdj8TpHRnthxk7No7eJ_c3mla3jL1o8n14D0wUaAmNUEALw_wcB 

€8k for a washing machine... You could buy 8 CM MIJs for that price

[Stefan Payne]

21 minutes ago, seon123 said:

€8k for a washing machine... You could buy 8 CM MIJs for that price

Yeah, but its not for home use anyway
Its for industrial use where the washing machine is more or less constantly running

And it is a bit bigger than normal things. Like 1m high...

[Nocomander]

What is a reason EVGA G2 still Tier 1 and EVGA G3 move down Tier 2  ?

[seon123]

1 hour ago, Nocomander said:

What is a reason EVGA G2 still Tier 1 and EVGA G3 move down Tier 2  ?

The G2 still performs good and doesn't have issues with its protections. The G3 performs better, but has issues with its protections, causing it to be bumped down. 

And while it's not a criteria in the list and doesn't make a difference for the list, the higher wattage G3s are also really loud. 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 hour ago, Nocomander said:

What is a reason EVGA G2 still Tier 1 and EVGA G3 move down Tier 2  ?

OTP and OPP concerns. It's still a good unit so long as you don't overload it

[seon123]

5 hours ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

OTP and OPP concerns. It's still a good unit so long as you don't overload it

And if they don't accidentally choke it, and the fan doesn't fail. 

[The Torrent]

Corsair rmx all the way with their 10 year warranty.

 

(g3 has this also but it’s only above 750w so this shows Corsair has more faith in their product as they don’t need the more money from bigger psu’s to put towards warranty)

[awesomegamer919]

53 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

Corsair rmx all the way with their 10 year warranty.

 

(g3 has this also but it’s only above 750w so this shows Corsair has more faith in their product as they don’t need the more money from bigger psu’s to put towards warranty)

I mean, Seasonic PRIME is 12years...

 

The thing is. Above 7-10 years is mostly irrelevant since PSU technologies will be wildly different, and your older PSU may not even work with new components. 

[LienusLateTips]

9 hours ago, Nocomander said:

What is a reason EVGA G2 still Tier 1 and EVGA G3 move down Tier 2  ?

G3 IMO should be Tier 3...

 

OPP/OTP is broken. On one review one of the capacitors started melting.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

2 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

G3 IMO should be Tier 3...

 

OPP/OTP is broken. On one review one of the capacitors started melting.

That doesn't mean the electrical performance, features, etc. aren't awesome. As long as you're careful it's still a good unit

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

That doesn't mean the electrical performance, features, etc. aren't awesome. As long as you're careful it's still a good unit

It's very easy to choke a PSU... And with the G3, that means melting your caps.

 

For even cheaper you can get functional PSUs.