[Mini News] Just as WWDC is about to start......Microsoft compares the Surface Pro 4 against the macbookair 13" and tears apple a new one???!!!!

[minibois]

6 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Which means they might believe it! So win win.....

Oh I realized how awkward that was......

get it? win win? Cos windows is a win win for everybody !

eh, Windows is not always good.

[RagnarokDel]

54 minutes ago, LukeTim said:

The Macbook wins by virtue of not running Windows.

It's running OSX which is way worse then windows lol. OSX is the console OS of PCs.

[mikat]

8 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

PLOT TWIST!!!!

 

They're also discounting it!
 

 

LOL

 

8 hours ago, RagnarokDel said:

It's running OSX which is way worse then windows lol. OSX is the console OS of PCs.

for certain things i like OSX alot better, for example for programming, idk what it is about macs and osx, but the combination of the trackpad, the weight and the OS make the macbook air the perfect programming machine for me

[AlTech]

1 hour ago, mikat said:

for certain things i like OSX alot better, for example for programming, idk what it is about macs and osx, but the combination of the trackpad, the weight and the OS make the macbook air the perfect programming machine for me

Ewwwwwwww Programming on a dual core................

That's disgusting man.....

[captain cactus]

Comparing a new product to something that was released almost a year ago is comparing apples (no pun intended) to oranges.

[Tenelia]

3 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Ewwwwwwww Programming on a dual core................

That's disgusting man.....

 

My buddy and I could code with Notepad if it comes down to it... Just saying. >_>"

[Blade of Grass]

7 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Ewwwwwwww Programming on a dual core................

That's disgusting man.....

Funny enough, if you go to hackathons or the lecture halls of CS programs you will see many MBPs in the audience, and you're only going to start seeing more. According to Stackoverflow's Developer Survey 2016, 26.2% of respondents used Mac OS X and 52.1% used some form of Microsoft OS, which is a big change vs. 2015 in which 21.5% of respondents used Mac OS X and 54.5% used Windows. 

[AlTech]

8 hours ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

Comparing a new product to something that was released almost a year ago is comparing apples (no pun intended) to oranges.

Both were released almost a year ago at this point......

[Doobeedoo]

Well that's great. Dedicated GPU in such product is alos amazing just to point out.

[FakezZ]

On June 13, 2016 at 7:57 AM, AluminiumTech said:

Because you're assuming everybody here speaks and understands fluent English?

If you can't understand or aren't sure you understood something, you should ask, not make assumptions and then blame the other person

 

23 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Ewwwwwwww Programming on a dual core................

That's disgusting man.....

For about 6 months I was programming on a 2007 netbook with a single core 800mhz atom and 2gb ram. Not the best experience, but at least Lubuntu ran decently on it.

[Nowak]

17 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Ewwwwwwww Programming on a dual core................

That's disgusting man.....

Well, it's not impossible. My laptop has a dual-core CPU (granted, a 35W part instead of a 15W part) and it's perfectly capable of handling heavier tasks. Won't handle them as quickly as a quad-core CPU will, but for things like virtual machines it's fine.

[mikat]

17 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Ewwwwwwww Programming on a dual core................

That's disgusting man.....

why? atm i only program in html/css/js & node.js

 

[LAwLz]

17 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Ewwwwwwww Programming on a dual core................

That's disgusting man.....

So you don't think the Surface Pro 4 is suitable for programming on either? It has a dual core too. 

i7-6650U

[AlTech]

3 hours ago, FakezZ said:

If you can't understand or aren't sure you understood something, you should ask, not make assumptions and then blame the other person

I was saying some people on here (not me) might not understand everything you say.

 

1 hour ago, LAwLz said:

So you don't think the Surface Pro 4 is suitable for programming on either? It has a dual core too. 

i7-6650U

I wouldn't do serious programming on it.........

 

Maybe small programs I make BUT NOT bigger programs. If you making the next Google Chrome then don't use a dual core.......

[AlTech]

1 hour ago, mikat said:

why? atm i only program in html/css/js & node.js

 

*sighs*, fair enough!.

 

2 hours ago, Daring said:

Well, it's not impossible. My laptop has a dual-core CPU (granted, a 35W part instead of a 15W part) and it's perfectly capable of handling heavier tasks. Won't handle them as quickly as a quad-core CPU will, but for things like virtual machines it's fine.

Well my laptop uses a 15w part and it practically never turbos.....

 

my desktop uses an 84w part (yeah bring it on!) and it always turbos and is super amazing for programming

[suicidalfranco]

3 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

I was saying some people on here (not me) might not understand everything you say.

 

I wouldn't do serious programming on it.........

 

Maybe small programs I make BUT NOT bigger programs. If you making the next Google Chrome then don't use a dual core.......

says LTT resident software engineer /s

[daniielrp]

I do appreciate MS's attempts at marketing, even though they seem really bad at it some times...

 

But what I don't like is meaningless statements like this: "50% faster"

 

50% faster at what? Most casual things - email, internet, writing etc there is going to no difference. And then if you're talking about doing heavy workloads then those kinds of people probably wouldn't be getting an MBA anyway so the comparison is moot. If I was MS, I would be targeting the Macbook Pro users - they are the ones who are more likely to need some extra power and may actually see the benefit of a Surface. 

[Trixanity]

48 minutes ago, daniielrp said:

I do appreciate MS's attempts at marketing, even though they seem really bad at it some times...

 

But what I don't like is meaningless statements like this: "50% faster"

 

50% faster at what? Most casual things - email, internet, writing etc there is going to no difference. And then if you're talking about doing heavy workloads then those kinds of people probably wouldn't be getting an MBA anyway so the comparison is moot. If I was MS, I would be targeting the Macbook Pro users - they are the ones who are more likely to need some extra power and may actually see the benefit of a Surface. 

Problem is that a MacBook Pro is faster than a Surface Pro 4. Now if we're talking Surface Book it's arguable with GPU in favor of Surface and CPU in favor of Macbook.

[suicidalfranco]

1 hour ago, Trixanity said:

Problem is that a MacBook Pro is faster than a Surface Pro 4. Now if we're talking Surface Book it's arguable with GPU in favor of Surface and CPU in favor of Macbook.

the GPU would also be in favour of the Macbook, a 940m got nothing against a M370x

[Mew]

What a horrible comparison. Am i supposed to magically know how big the screen of the sp4 is? Why is the display being measured in megapixels?

[byalexandr]

On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2016 at 6:23 AM, LukeTim said:

The Macbook wins by virtue of not running Windows.

I'm not sure how that makes it win by any stretch.

 

Why the hell do people hate Windows so much? Windows is fuckin' fantastic, it probably has to do something with the user if anything.

[Trixanity]

10 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

the GPU would also be in favour of the Macbook, a 940m got nothing against a M370x

I was comparing it to the 13" MBP with Iris graphics. The 15" would be a bit unfair.

 

[suicidalfranco]

2 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

I was comparing it to the 13" MBP with Iris graphics. The 15" would be a bit unfair.

 

same price, surface book would even be 100 more expensive, seems fair to me 

[Trixanity]

1 minute ago, suicidalfranco said:

same price, surface book would even be 100 more expensive, seems fair to me 

I knew you'd say that but you're paying for the form factor on the Surface. It's actually a very Apple-esque way of pricing things, so it shouldn't be surprising. You're not necessarily paying for raw horsepower. Otherwise you could just carry a 5 kg gaming laptop around if it's all about dem flops.

[ShadowCaptain]

11 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

I'm not sure how that makes it win by any stretch.

 

Why the hell do people hate Windows so much? Windows is fuckin' fantastic, it probably has to do something with the user if anything.

If MacOS had every game on it, I would use it

(and by extension the hardware I wanted too)