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GTX 1080 benchmarks leak: not much faster than a 980 Ti

asim1999
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3 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Ahh yes that's what it was. Those things were topping out at like 1430 right?

Occasionally people can get them to 1500 (I know Paul's Hardware got a golden sample of the exact card I have), but asking around on the EVGA forums, 1430 seems pretty standard for that model.

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1 hour ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Well that and the yields have apparently improved quite a bit, remember when it was almost unheard of for GM200 to get past the 1520 wall while now a significant proportion blast through it with ease?

It seems most do or it is just the brand I got. IDK

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45 minutes ago, CTR640 said:

Ah you have GTX980Ti. What are your settings of advanced settings? Is Grass quality on High, VH or Ultra?

Can you try to drive in areas with load of grass and see how are the performance?

One last question (I think lol) can you drive on offroad with light snow activated?

Light snow has small clouds floating around and thick clouds is a huge FPS killer aside MSAA.

 

These are the problems I have with GTAV on 780.

 

Yes, 4K gaming is not here yet but when 2160p60 is finally able, then we all finally can max out any game.

But i may be painfully wrong.

It's been a little while since I finished GTAV so you'll have to forgive my memory... there was only one setting I had to scale back due to running out of VRAM (admittedly this is a weakness of the Nvidia cards in general). I believe it was Extended Shadow Distance that I had to knock back a fair bit until my VRAM usage went under the theoretical maximum. Everything else was max though, and my gameplay performance was very smooth, impressively so. If I ever dipped below 90fps I did not notice it.

 

One problem with reaching 4K@60 is that games also get more demanding. For GPU manufacturers, its an uphill battle. Game engines could use some modernization to use the resources available IMO.

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2 hours ago, CTR640 said:

I haven't wrote my other posts properly. I am not disappointed about the performance but about nVidia.

They'll again pull of tricks like saying the GTX1080 is the fastest GPU and later this year releasing the 1080Ti

and will claim again "the fastest GPU"

:o You mean that companies release GPUs, and then later release faster GPUs? NO WAY! /s

 

It's not really a trick man... The 1080 will the the fastest GPU on the consumer market when they release it, so why wouldn't they advertise it?

 

They're not releasing the Titan or 1080ti yet because those use the GP100 chip. The problem is that the GP100 is also in the Tesla P100 workstation card, and right now they can't produce enough chips to meet demand for the P100 which sells for $12,500 USD... so they're not going to take production away from that to make a $700 consumer card. Can't really blame them there.

 

When they finally catch up to demand for the P100, they can start making the Titan... which will then be the fastest card on the market... so again... why wouldn't they advertise that?

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12 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

It seems most do or it is just the brand I got. IDK

Nah I think it's a process improvement, look at the original reviews of these products (and old review samples) there was definitely a 1520 wall.  Now I've seen cards from basically every manufacturer get past that without any real issues (the KPE was the first I was to break 1520, but now I've seen Zotac/Gigabtye/MSI/EVGA/ASUS cards do it, and every day it seems they are becoming more common.)

 

I can do 1534/2050 at 4k but below that resolution I have to drop to 1519/2018 or so.

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Why are  so many people hyping something without even waiting to see what AMD has to offer...

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Nah I think it's a process improvement, look at the original reviews of these products (and old review samples) there was definitely a 1520 wall.  Now I've seen cards from basically every manufacturer get past that without any real issues (the KPE was the first I was to break 1520, but now I've seen Zotac/Gigabtye/MSI/EVGA/ASUS cards do it, and every day it seems they are becoming more common.)

 

I can do 1534/2050 at 4k but below that resolution I have to drop to 1519/2018 or so.

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6 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

Why are  so many people hyping something without even waiting to see what AMD has to offer...

AMD has explicitly stated they are not trying to compete on the high end with Polaris (it sounds like that is what Vegas is for.)

 

Also idk if you count better than the 980ti at 980 prices hype... It's pretty much what we have expected forever (just like the 980 vs 780ti).

 

Although by that I mean somewhere in the 500-650 dollar range. Which is still quite a bit imho for a graphics card.

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9 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

AMD has explicitly stated they are not trying to compete on the high end with Polaris (it sounds like that is what Vegas is for.)

 

Also idk if you count better than the 980ti at 980 prices hype... It's pretty much what we have expected forever (just like the 980 vs 780ti).

 

Although by that I mean somewhere in the 500-650 dollar range. Which is still quite a bit imho for a graphics card.

 

Oh they did? Can i see the official statement for that?

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Oh they did? Can i see the official statement for that?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/amd-polaris-will-be-a-mainstream-gpu/

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/04/amd-focusing-on-vr-mid-range-polaris/

 

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"The reason Polaris is a big deal, is because I believe we will be able to grow that TAM [total addressable market] significantly," said Taylor. "I don't think Nvidia is going to do anything to increase the TAM, because according to everything we've seen around Pascal, it's a high-end part. I don't know what the price is gonna be, but let's say it's as low as £500/$600 and as high as £800/$1000. That price range is not going to expand the TAM for VR. We're going on the record right now to say Polaris will expand the TAM. Full stop."

 

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19 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/amd-polaris-will-be-a-mainstream-gpu/

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/04/amd-focusing-on-vr-mid-range-polaris/

 

 

I can't believe how many people give me shit for saying GP104 is going to be better than Polaris 10 after AMD has officially stated this will be the case. xD

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I can't believe how many people give me shit for saying GP104 is going to be better than Polaris 10 after AMD has officially stated this will be the case. xD

lolol.

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This title is a bit misleading, since when is 26% increase in performance "not much faster?"

 

Here's a 980 Ti @ 8,026 (Graphics Score):

 

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http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review,24.html

 

Here's the 1080 @ 10,102 (you must look at the Graphics Score not the Total score):

 

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26% increase in performance. Not to mention, supposedly they are sandbagging it too. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

My point is AMD is holding back their big die chip the same way Nvidia is now, Vega is the same generation as Polaris. All this crap started when AMD's flagship 7970 got beat by Nvidia's midrange 680, so they charged flagship prices for it too. 

...No it's not? Vega is a different generation in the same way the 700 series' top chips from nvidia are not the same generation as the 600 series, that stuff was simply not there before. The r9 200 series does not have a cut down version of a die as its flagship. Fiji is very different from hawaii. And vega will most likely be very different from the top polaris gpus.

 

On the other hand, the 780 is a cut down 780ti and the 980ti has pretty much the same architecture as the 980, and while it is a different die it was clearly held back to try and sell the 1000$ titan x and the 550$ 980 and only eventually released when amd threatened to have a competitive offer.

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17 hours ago, asim1999 said:

True, NVIDIA's performance upgrades look like this:

GTX 1080= GTX 980 Ti

GTX 1070 + GTX 980 

GTX 780 Ti = GTX 980

GTX 780 = GTX 970

and so on 

My 780ti is closer to a 970 than a 980, but other than that that pattern is usually how it goes...

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7 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

I can't believe how many people give me shit for saying GP104 is going to be better than Polaris 10 after AMD has officially stated this will be the case. xD

Was it Polaris 10 that was running hitman at 1440p? if so that seems like it will be reasonably powerful

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1 hour ago, Lord_Karango17 said:

Was it Polaris 10 that was running hitman at 1440p? if so that seems like it will be reasonably powerful

At settings AMD wouldn't disclose.

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1 hour ago, Sauron said:

...No it's not? Vega is a different generation in the same way the 700 series' top chips from nvidia are not the same generation as the 600 series, that stuff was simply not there before. The r9 200 series does not have a cut down version of a die as its flagship. Fiji is very different from hawaii. And vega will most likely be very different from the top polaris gpus.

 

On the other hand, the 780 is a cut down 780ti and the 980ti has pretty much the same architecture as the 980, and while it is a different die it was clearly held back to try and sell the 1000$ titan x and the 550$ 980 and only eventually released when amd threatened to have a competitive offer.

So Maxwell and Maxwell 2 are different generations too?

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$500 980Tis with usable ASync compute and 8GB of DDR5?  Sounds like a good deal to me, relatively speaking.

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Am i the only one who feels this gen is going to be another gtx 400 vs hd 5000 series ? where nvidia gets the performance crown , but amd ends up more power efficient . I could be wrong though.

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1 hour ago, Sauron said:

...No it's not? Vega is a different generation in the same way the 700 series' top chips from nvidia are not the same generation as the 600 series, that stuff was simply not there before. The r9 200 series does not have a cut down version of a die as its flagship. Fiji is very different from hawaii. And vega will most likely be very different from the top polaris gpus.

 

On the other hand, the 780 is a cut down 780ti and the 980ti has pretty much the same architecture as the 980, and while it is a different die it was clearly held back to try and sell the 1000$ titan x and the 550$ 980 and only eventually released when amd threatened to have a competitive offer.

 

I think VEGA will be the same as Fury, so much hype and then didn't deliver the promise...
The good think for AMD in short term is that they are targeting Polaris for Mainstream where Nvidia will target high end. This will keep both happy each selling for each segment. But once nvidia releases their mainstream card, things might start to smell bad for AMD.

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55 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

So Maxwell and Maxwell 2 are different generations too?

They bear the same name and the titan x came out pretty close to the 980. Too bad it was 1000$.

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1 hour ago, kcaBsIsuxeN said:

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Calm down. No one wants to read mouth diarrhea like that. Use some argumentation instead and support your points.

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2 minutes ago, Notional said:

Calm down. No one wants to read mouth diarrhea like that. Use some argumentation instead and support your points.

Lol.  Agree bait like this is so pathetic.

 

If you actually managed to read my post you'd understand.

 

It's the next generation, yet the 1080 will barely be able to support 4k, just like the 980 ti.  There is no difference.  They are charging people slightly less for the same card.  How does this progress anything?  Does this clear things up for your mind?

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