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[Finished] The number cruncher: Triple Xeon passive mineral oil cooling [Update 12: Final pictures and summary]

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8 minutes ago, GoZone said:

Oh okay.

It is my daily driver by now as I sold my other PC. Makes the building process even more complicated.

And I will move to a new flat in about two month, so I won't fill the PC with oil before I moved. And I'm waiting for new GPUs.

Mineral oil and 40 kg aluminium heat sinks are a perfect combination: 73 cores and a Titan X, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Oil

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1 hour ago, Stefan1024 said:

Yes something magnet would be perfect. I will bookmark the idea for my next project.

Doesn't even have to be magnetic. It could just slide in smoothly with swiss precision engineering.

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Just now, thekeemo said:

Doesn't even have to be magnetic. It could just slide in smoothly with swiss precision engineering.

I'm good in precision engineering, but for precision production I lack access to a milling machine. But I can do something with a hinge.

Mineral oil and 40 kg aluminium heat sinks are a perfect combination: 73 cores and a Titan X, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Oil

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2 hours ago, Stefan1024 said:

I'm good in precision engineering, but for precision production I lack access to a milling machine. But I can do something with a hinge. Maybe if you can find some sprung hinges like those on glasses worth wearing.

If you do that, have it be an inside mounted hinge. Might require you to use a sprung hinge like that seen on glasses worth wearing.

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Update 7: How to submerge a HDD

 

After a while finaly a new update!

SSDs are really nice for silent systems, but I'm not decadent enougth to store several TBs of cold data on an SSD. So I have to use a HDD. However, running it outside of the oil is not possible as the noise is way to high compared to the rest of the parts. So it needs to be submerged.

I hade a long discussion with Cpatain_WD about if it save to submerge a HelioSeald WD Red. The answer was "in theory it should work, but we don't guarantee it". So I coated the HDD with an electronic protection spray. And I also made a ani-vibration mount with springs to supress the vibration transfer from the HDD to the case.

Springs do have a low dampening so it is endangered to hit the resonant frequency and move heavily. But the surrounding oil will add losses the mechanical system and reduce the reconant peak by a lot.

 

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I also drilled most of the necessary holes into the heat sinks, so I can assemble them. This is only for transportation on the 16. June. The sealing is still missing, and I will take the PC apart again once I moved it with the ship across the lake. There will not be a lot of changes for the next 6 weeks as I'm super busy at the moment. Doing funn stuff like spending days at IKEA and looking for used furniture and collecting it takes a lot of time.

At least the electronic is up and running and I'm using it daily.

 

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Mineral oil and 40 kg aluminium heat sinks are a perfect combination: 73 cores and a Titan X, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Oil

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6 hours ago, Stefan1024 said:

Update 7: How to submerge a HDD

 

After a while finaly a new update!

SSDs are really nice for silent systems, but I'm not decadent enougth to store several TBs of cold data on an SSD. So I have to use a HDD. However, running it outside of the oil is not possible as the noise is way to high compared to the rest of the parts. So it needs to be submerged.

I hade a long discussion with Cpatain_WD about if it save to submerge a HelioSeald WD Red. The answer was "in theory it should work, but we don't guarantee it". So I coated the HDD with an electronic protection spray. And I also made a ani-vibration mount with springs to supress the vibration transfer from the HDD to the case.

Springs do have a low dampening so it is endangered to hit the resonant frequency and move heavily. But the surrounding oil will add losses the mechanical system and reduce the reconant peak by a lot.

 

7_2.jpg

 

7_3.jpg

 

 

I also drilled most of the necessary holes into the heat sinks, so I can assemble them. This is only for transportation on the 16. June. The sealing is still missing, and I will take the PC apart again once I moved it with the ship across the lake. There will not be a lot of changes for the next 6 weeks as I'm super busy at the moment. Doing funn stuff like spending days at IKEA and looking for used furniture and collecting it takes a lot of time.

At least the electronic is up and running and I'm using it daily.

 

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dude. Yes.

Just a guy who peaked at building back in the days of the GTX 980. If you see me here, assume i have technical knowledge akin to a committed hobbyist builder back then. If something's changed, you'll need to tell me(nicely plz). I'm probably asking for help with the modern build scene since I have no clue what's going on.

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2 hours ago, waggythegeek said:

dude. Yes.

Please dont quote images..

Also very cool.

But why do you need to disassemble to carry across the lake?

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58 minutes ago, thekeemo said:

Please dont quote images..

Also very cool.

But why do you need to disassemble to carry across the lake?

Oh I used the wrong words agin...

I assembled the PC to move it, but i have to disasseble it to again to finish the build.

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6 minutes ago, Stefan1024 said:

Oh I used the wrong words agin...

I assembled the PC to move it, but i have to disasseble it to again to finish the build.

Just write it in your programming language of choice

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12 hours ago, thekeemo said:

Just write it in your programming language of choice 

void nextStepInTheBuildLog(int money, int time)
{
	AssembleAllHeatSinks(true);

	ReportToLTT(true);

	while(location != Quinten) {
		newGPU = LookForNewGPU(Polaris);
		if(newGPU.TDP < 200 watts) {
			BuyGPU(newGPU);
            money = money - newGPU.Price;
          
			if(money < 0) {
				ThrowException("Warnig: New money required immediately");
          	}

			ReportToLTT(true);
			break;
		}
      
      	SleepForOneNigth(true);

		if(time > 0) {
			time--;
		}
		else {
			ThrowException("Fatal Error: Livetime of Stefan1024 depleted! New builder required.");
		}
	}
  
    AssembleAllHeatSinks(false);
	MountGPU(newGPU);
	ReportToLTT(true);

	AssembleAllHeatSinks(true);
	SealHeatsinks(true);
	WaitFor24h(true);

	FillPCwithOil(true);
	ReportToLTT(true);
  
}

Hmm the formating is colplitely differen than in the preview window. Just imagine the rigth the alignment. ;)

Mineral oil and 40 kg aluminium heat sinks are a perfect combination: 73 cores and a Titan X, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Oil

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20 minutes ago, Stefan1024 said: 

void nextStepInTheBuildLog(int money, int time)
{
	AssembleAllHeatSinks(true);

	ReportToLTT(true);

	while(location != Quinten) {
		newGPU = LookForNewGPU(Polaris);
		if(newGPU.TDP < 200 watts) {
			BuyGPU(newGPU);
            money = money - newGPU.Price;
          
			if(money < 0) {
				ThrowException("Warnig: New money required immediately");
          	}

			ReportToLTT(true);
			break;
		}
      
      	SleepForOneNigth(true);

		if(time > 0) {
			time--;
		}
		else {
			ThrowException("Fatal Error: Livetime of Stefan1024 depleted! New builder required.");
		}
	}
  
    AssembleAllHeatSinks(false);
	MountGPU(newGPU);
	ReportToLTT(true);

	AssembleAllHeatSinks(true);
	SealHeatsinks(true);
	WaitFor24h(true);

	FillPCwithOil(true);
	ReportToLTT(true);
  
}

Hmm the formating is colplitely differen than in the preview window. Just imagine the rigth the alignment. ;)

This is hilarious.

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3 hours ago, Stefan1024 said:

Hmm the formating is colplitely differen than in the preview window. Just imagine the rigth the alignment. ;)

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2 minutes ago, Trey222 said:

01001001 00100000 01110000 01110010 01100101 01100110 01100101 01110010 00100000 01000010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 

I like binary too :)

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So what is the verdict on the GPU?

Pascal Vega Polaris?

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3 hours ago, thekeemo said:

So what is the verdict on the GPU?

Pascal Vega Polaris?

- Pacal is out of the equation: very high price in Switzerland, high heat putput for 16 nm and therefore nasty heat density.

- Polaris looks like an easy to cool card and should deliver ok performance.

- It looks like Vega will be a great GPU, but I like to be finished before Q1 2017.

 

At the moment I'm looking for a cheap used 980Ti or Titan X. Down the road I may upgrade to Vega. The build was ment to have 2 GPUs, but I don't have that much time to game anymore, and I think I'm fine without CF / SLI.

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16 hours ago, nycesquire said:

Why are you concerned with heat density?  How do you plan to spread the heat?

I usually use a copper block and then the aluminium base of the heat sink to transport the heat.

But reusing the vapor chamber of the original cooler to replace the copper block like I did with the xeon phi worked out nicely. So I will do this with the GPU as well.

With the vapor chamber the heat density is less of en issue, but I'm not supporting nvidias tactics on the 1070/1080 so I'm not going to buy one. I found a very good deal on a used titan X and I will ise it until I can get a cheap (used) vega GPU.

The only downside is, that I'm pretty sure my money will end up in nvidias pockets as the guy I bougth the Titan x from will most likely get a 1080. But there is nothing I can do about it.

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6 hours ago, Stefan1024 said:

I usually use a copper block and then the aluminium base of the heat sink to transport the heat.

But reusing the vapor chamber of the original cooler to replace the copper block like I did with the xeon phi worked out nicely. So I will do this with the GPU as well.

With the vapor chamber the heat density is less of en issue, but I'm not supporting nvidias tactics on the 1070/1080 so I'm not going to buy one. I found a very good deal on a used titan X and I will ise it until I can get a cheap (used) vega GPU.

The only downside is, that I'm pretty sure my money will end up in nvidias pockets as the guy I bougth the Titan x from will most likely get a 1080. But there is nothing I can do about it.

With polaris news out which would you choose? Pascal or polaris? Polaris seems to be a much nicer fit in this situation tho... With that efficient perf/TDP

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2 hours ago, xnoobftw said:

With polaris news out which would you choose? Pascal or polaris? Polaris seems to be a much nicer fit in this situation tho... With that efficient perf/TDP

I will not buy a pascal nor polaris GPU of the current generation. But this is my opinion:

 

- The RX480 is a smart buy because it delivers good performance for a low price. The perf/watt seems excellent compared to older generations, but I need some hard numbers for the performance to comute the ratio. 150 watts is not a problem by any means. And singe slot IO is a huge bonus.

 

- 1080: freaking overpriced, not going to happen.

 

- 1070: could turn out to be a readonable card. But the few % pore perfromance over the RX 480 on a higher price point is not very appealing.

 

For 1440p / 144 Hz RX480 CF is needed. However, I first like to see if AMD figured out a better (HW-based) method to get rid of the usual SLI / CF problems. And CF will also require about 300 watts, as much as my titan x. And with vega down the road I'm looking at 3 GPUs. Just overkill.

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On 6/1/2016 at 11:21 PM, Stefan1024 said:

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Hardware Cannucks just released this and I immediately thought of your build.

 

Higher frame rate over higher resolution.

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1 hour ago, ConnorDahne said:

Hardware Cannucks just released this and I immediately thought of your build.

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Haha he said "unique" about 20 times.

 

The design is nice, but the heat sinks are a bit to smal for a full featured PC. I still love it nevertheless.

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Update 8: It realy hurts doing this!

 

I found a good deal on a used Titan X so I counl'd resist to buy it. However, after testing I know why it was so cheap: The cooler is very dusty and the card thermal throttles all over the place unless you set the fan to 95%. Stupidly loud, but the GPU itself is working fine. That's all I need.

Sadly Nvidia still used this terrible DVI connector so I had to cut it off. When a hacksaw is your only tool available , it  looks as bad as when Linus is doing hardware modding. You may cried inside when you whatched Linus doing it in the video. But doing it yourself is even worse.

 

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Oh rest in pieces :/ at lease you got it cheap on the bright side :P 

Looking at my signature are we now? Well too bad there's nothing here...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What? As I said, there seriously is nothing here :) 

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I really do not understand why companies still put DVI ports on their high end cards. 

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