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Reason not to buy an AMD R9 390 over a GTX 970 at this day and age? THIS:

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That was the only BAD gameready driver nvidia released so far and they've admitted the mistake and fixed it the next week with the release of another driver that restored and improved performance for kepler GPU's in many games INCLUDING the witcher 3 and project cars...and the GTX 780ti climbed back in between the GTX 970 and 980 ...it's still faster than your 290X, faster than a 390 in most games and will give even a 390X a run for it's money especialy in nvidia optimised/sponsored titles (AKA MOST GAMES THAT HAVE COME OUT IN 2014 and 2015 BTW) which also happend to have support for some gameworks and physX based FX such as TXAA, PCSS shadows and HBAO+.

 

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290x slower than 780 Ti? Naw mate, not anymore. 780 Ti gives the 390x a run for its money? Naw mate, launch price of the 780 Ti is $699. Launch price of the 390x is $450. If anything, the 290, 970, 390, 290x, 390x, 980, Fury, Fury X and 980 Ti all give the 780 Ti a "run for its money". 

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Fancy graphics on a recycled game

 

Whatever floats ur boat m8

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290x slower than 780 Ti? Naw mate, not anymore. 780 Ti gives the 390x a run for its money? Naw mate, launch price of the 780 Ti is $699. Launch price of the 390x is $450. If anything, the 290, 970, 390, 290x, 390x, 980, Fury, Fury X and 980 Ti all give the 780 Ti a "run for its money". 

Yes 3 GB version does indeed suck now for 1440(though I'd don't know that these % mean so I don't know how much different), also I wish they had an oc comparison chart

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Yes 3 GB version does indeed suck now for 1440 but the 6GB is faster (though I'd don't know that these % mean so I don't know how much), also I wish they had an oc comparison chart

 

6GB version? You mean the titan? That is way over priced. And, no point in comparing clock speed numbers when they all have different clock speed scaling. They still perform the same after OC. Other than GCN 1.2 cards. 

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6GB version? You mean the titan? That is way over priced. And, no point in comparing clock speed numbers when they all have different clock speed scaling. They still perform the same after OC. Other than GCN 1.2 cards. 

My bad I got confused with the regular 780 6GB

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snip that shit!

290x slower than 780 Ti? Naw mate, not anymore. 780 Ti gives the 390x a run for its money? Naw mate, launch price of the 780 Ti is $699. Launch price of the 390x is $450. If anything, the 290, 970, 390, 290x, 390x, 980, Fury, Fury X and 980 Ti all give the 780 Ti a "run for its money".

HAHAHA wow...this is your best benchmark you have to show me?! would you mind AT LEAST linking the full arcticle so i can judge by myself the performance metrics in this graph? cause just a % number isn't really cutting it...i want to know what test they ran, what games, at what resolution, with which CPU, when does the test where performed, under which driver etc...

otherwise this is back of a cereal box bullshit posting...i certainly won't consider this a defenetive answer to how a GTX 780ti perform when compaired to an AMD R9 290X/390X in current modern AAA titles with current drivers, sorry!

Also...techpowerUP? really?

why not Tom's hardware or Anandtech...PCperspective? better yet: LinusTechTips numbers?!

if i had to guess i would say because they don't show numbers you like personaly?

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Apart from marketing material the end game will look just as good on AMD. The video is comparing the scene with what it would look like with no anti aliasing and no ambient occlusion but obviously that's not how AMD users actually play.

Remember watchdogs, remember assassin's creed unity.

They all got this promotion but ended up looking the same on all GPUs.

The more pressing concern for both NVIDIA and AMD users is how well will this run? Is it another gamenotworks the way it's meant to stuttter title? Or has ubisoft turned a corner?

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HAHAHA wow...this is your best benchmark you have to show me?! would you mind AT LEAST linking the full arcticle so i can judge by myself the performance metrics in this graph? cause just a % number isn't really cutting it...i want to know what test they ran, what games, at what resolution, with which CPU, when does the test where performed, under which driver etc...

otherwise this is back of a cereal box bullshit posting...i certainly won't consider this a defenetive answer to how a GTX 780ti perform when compaired to an AMD R9 290X/390X in current modern AAA titles with current drivers, sorry!

 

Seriously? This is all you do? Really? Every time I show a benchmark all you can do is say how those benchmarks are "bias" "shit". Also, anyone would've known that this was from the 980 Ti Lightning review from techpowerup. 

 

Here's where the relative performance numbers are from since you were too lazy to google it: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/23.html

Oh and an article: http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-fury-x-performance-ahead-nvidia-980-ti-latest-drivers/

 

Oh, and the 780 Ti launch price: http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia-announces-gtx-780-ti-launch-date-price-shield-update-and-780770-price-cuts-2013/

 

sheesh. 

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Apart from marketing material the end game will look just as good on AMD. The video is comparing the scene with what it would look like with no anti aliasing and no ambient occlusion but obviously that's not how AMD users actually play.

Remember watchdogs, remember assassin's creed unity.

They all got this promotion but ended up looking the same on all GPUs.

The more pressing concern for both NVIDIA and AMD users is how well will this run? Is it another gamenotworks the way it's meant to stuttter title? Or has ubisoft turned a corner?

i do recon there are other form of anti-aliasing but MSAA is a lot more taxing than TXAA and it won't look as good...but as i said you can be SURE the reviewers will test the NVIDIA and AMD GPU with MSAA, high shadows and standard ambient occlusion (SSAO or some shit) even though the nvidia 970 should be running TXAA, PCSS shadows, and HBAO+ to get better performance and better image quality, that's my point here...

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Seriously? This is all you do? Really? Every time I show a benchmark all you can do is say how those benchmarks are "bias" "shit". Also, anyone would've known that this was from the 980 Ti Lightning review from techpowerup. 

 

Here's where the relative performance numbers are from since you were too lazy to google it: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/23.html

Oh and an article: http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-fury-x-performance-ahead-nvidia-980-ti-latest-drivers/

 

Oh, and the 780 Ti launch price: http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia-announces-gtx-780-ti-launch-date-price-shield-update-and-780770-price-cuts-2013/

 

sheesh. 

 

well...then there you go:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/23.html

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see, even your own arcticle proved me right the 780ti IS faster than the 290X and do give the 390X a run for it's money and does perform better in many games at 1080p which is THE relevant information to take into account since 98% of the people gaming with these graphics cards are on 1920x1080p monitors...those are 1080p gaming cards. (BTW this is off topic now, but anyways)

Also, launch price? this is completely irrelevant since you can pick up a GTX 780ti for the same price as a R9 290/290X on used market these days if you shop a little bit.

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Seriously? This is all you do? Really? Every time I show a benchmark all you can do is say how those benchmarks are "bias" "shit". Also, anyone would've known that this was from the 980 Ti Lightning review from techpowerup. 

 

Here's where the relative performance numbers are from since you were too lazy to google it: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/23.html

Oh and an article: http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-fury-x-performance-ahead-nvidia-980-ti-latest-drivers/

 

Oh, and the 780 Ti launch price: http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia-announces-gtx-780-ti-launch-date-price-shield-update-and-780770-price-cuts-2013/

 

sheesh. 

@i_build_nanosuits from the techpowerup.com benchmarks he linked, you can tell the thing I told you about, the drivers from AMD drastically improved over the course of 2015, look at how a 290X beats a 970 and a 780Ti in an Nvidia-optimized game Shadow of Mordor @1080p. 780Ti is not faster than a 290X according to this, so it all depends on the game. And the overall performance score is even between those two, 64%.

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@i_build_nanosuits from the techpowerup.com benchmarks he linked, you can tell the thing I told you about, the drivers from AMD drastically improved over the course of 2015, look at how a 290X beats a 970 and a 780Ti in an Nvidia-optimized game Shadow of Mordor @1080p. 780Ti is not faster than a 290X according to this, so it all depends on the game. And the overall performance score is even between those two, 64%.

congratulation on cherry picking THE game in which AMD did noticeably better than the others...might want to check my previous post for RELATIVE PERFORMANCE OVERALL...sir!

Also...GTX 970...1% less than 290X/390 overall at 1080p gaming...wow!

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congratulation on cherry picking THE game in which AMD did noticeably better than the others...might want to check my previous post for RELATIVE PERFORMANCE OVERALL...sir!

64% R9 290X, 64% 780Ti. How is the 780Ti better there exactly? Either I'm blind or you're fanboying here ;-;

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I don't think PCSS is anything to write home about, but HBAO+ looks awesome ingame. HBAO+ seems to make a night and day difference to me for image quality in Witcher 3 while only costing about 2-3 fps to use. I have never even used TXAA in a game so I don't have an opinion on it.

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well...then there you go:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/23.html

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see, even your own arcticle proved me right the 780ti IS faster than the 290X and do give the 390X a run for it's money and does perform better in many games at 1080p which is THE relevant information to take into account since 98% of the people gaming with these graphics cards are on 1920x1080p monitors...those are 1080p gaming cards. (BTW this is off topic now, but anyways)

 

Just stop alright? You're a fairly high post count member, don't embarrass yourself further, please. 

 

And in case you still don't get it. 

 

1600x900

780 Ti: 68%

290x: 69%

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1920x1080

780 Ti: 64%

290x: 64%

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2560x1440

780 Ti: 59%

290x: 62%

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3840x2160

780 Ti: 56%

290x: 61%

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IMHO it looks like a FABULOUS game and i will CERTAINLY play it from the begining to the end and enjoy every minutes of it!

and ALSO, those features mentionned in the video that you've probably not even took the time to watch...are being used in MANY other current AAA titles and will be even more widely spread in FUTURE AAA titles...so NO, not just assassin's creed.

sooo much this...this is the video i should have linked to answer @afyeung and @Castdeath97 and @Coaxialgamer !

thanks for posting this!

looks like a fabulous game, ain't the whole series after black flag looks good but suck to the max. i did, i had a asus strix 970 and ofc i would wanna know why should i get back to nvidia. i really do still love their software comepare to amd so i am indeed still very interested in getting my hands on a 980ti. but still not a 970 over 390. 

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Just stop alright? You're a fairly high post count member, don't embarrass yourself further, please. 

 

And in case you still don't get it. 

 

1600x900

780 Ti: 68%

290x: 69%

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1920x1080

780 Ti: 64%

290x: 64%

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2560x1440

780 Ti: 59%

290x: 62%

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3840x2160

780 Ti: 56%

290x: 61%

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lovely chart to show it into those fan boy face. and can someone please notice that the 980 is 1% better than 390x but cost wayyyyyyy more?

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i do recon there are other form of anti-aliasing but MSAA is a lot more taxing than TXAA and it won't look as good...but as i said you can be SURE the reviewers will test the NVIDIA and AMD GPU with MSAA, high shadows and standard ambient occlusion (SSAO or some shit) even though the nvidia 970 should be running TXAA, PCSS shadows, and HBAO+ to get better performance and better image quality, that's my point here...

MSAA is more demanding. But a lot of Nvidia users don't like TXAA because of the texture blurring

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/03/12/crysis_3_video_card_performance_iq_review/9#.VkCySuIy2Xg

 

http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/comparisons/grand-theft-auto-v/grand-theft-auto-v-anti-aliasing-interactive-comparison-1-4x-txaa-vs-8x-msaa.html

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Hello Sir or Madam. Do you have a moment to talk about Nvidia and how our lord and savior promises everlasting fps? Would you like to pray for Hairworks with me? Let's join our hands in SLI and pray.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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lovely chart to show it into those fan boy face. and can someone please notice that the 980 is 1% better than 390x but cost wayyyyyyy more?

 

I tend to not compare the 980 and the 390x because they're fairly different. And at a different price point as well. All in all the 980 and the 390x are still beasts. 

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Hello Sir or Madam. Do you have a moment to talk about Nvidia and how our lord and savior promises everlasting fps? Would you like to pray for Hairworks with me? Let's join our hands in SLI and pray.

You know, cause marketshare adds an FPS boost to Nvidia cards according to some people ;-;

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The fanboyism in this thread is too real.

I like Nvidia products, but dude, you gotta let it go.

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