Tesla's auto-pilot gets a speeding warning (not a ticket)

[zMeul]

wouldn't be a good law because it makes cars without hand controls outright illegal.

this is the law here

 

even train engineers are required to have the hand on the controls at all times, even if the train is on rails

[popman]

That's utterly stupid. Just because everyone else is breaking the law doesn't mean you have to break the law.

It does if you don't want to get rear-ended by someone else, or pulled over for driving dangerously.

 

A whole lot of places even put the onus of proving that you were driving irresponsibly, regardless of the speed at which you were driving, on the prosecution.

[Mew]

It does if you don't want to get rear-ended by someone else, or pulled over for driving dangerously.

 

A whole lot of places even put the onus of proving that you were driving irresponsibly, regardless of the speed at which you were driving, on the prosecution.

 

Driving at the posted speed limit. A madman decides to rear end you because he's driving too fast. You get pulled for driving dangerously. I fail to see the logic in that, but then it is the US where logic isn't bred in schools.

[popman]

Driving at the posted speed limit. A madman decides to rear end you because he's driving too fast. You get pulled for driving dangerously. I fail to see the logic in that, but then it is the US where logic isn't bred in schools.

They're two separate things. Have you not been on a motorway at any point in your life? (Seriously asking, since this is where driving above posted limits happens most frequently.)

 

I'm not seeing where you're getting US from either. Would you mind telling me?

[Mew]

They're two separate things. Have you not been on a motorway at any point in your life? (Seriously asking, since this is where driving above posted limits happens most frequently.)

 

I'm not seeing where you're getting US from either. Would you mind telling me?

 

Oh I live in the US lol.

 

I usually cruise control 65mph on the freeways. Of course, if I'm in a hurry, I'd speed or if I'm in the carpool lane and people are tailing me. Other than that, I usually just cruise control 65 or hypermile in traffic.

[HalGameGuru]

In a lot of places in America speed limits aren't legislated the same way as say, grand theft auto, they are infractions, not crimes. And most states will have laws on the books regarding what is safe or unsafe, be it speeds, limits, or behaviors. Ignoring the fact that most states also define "drivers" as those operating a vehicle as a profession, not for personal use. And most laws regarding vehicular operation are enforced at the discretion of the officer involved. In some places a non-commercial driver driving 80 in a 60 is not, by default, an infraction, so long as they are driving safely and not endangering fellow motorists, hence why many states have MINIMUM limits as well, as its just as dangerous to be the one car going 40 when all the traffic is going 65.

 

Many states have some oddball laws about traffic, I personally prefer the 85th percentile rule and the theory of Flow. Arbitrary edicts are not what provides safety, the drivers making up the traffic flow driving responsibly, being aware of their environment, and respecting the laws of flow, allowing the most possible people to make the most efficient passage possible in as short a time as possible allows us all to get where we are going without incident.

[spartaman64]

Oh I live in the US lol.

 

I usually cruise control 65mph on the freeways. Of course, if I'm in a hurry, I'd speed or if I'm in the carpool lane and people are tailing me. Other than that, I usually just cruise control 65 or hypermile in traffic.

i havent heard of people getting charged for driving at the speed limit but its still not safe on the highways and you will probably not want to get rear ended for safety purposes not just lawsuits 

[GoodBytes]

[Misanthrope]

"car gets arrested"

 

Well most Teslas are black so it probably got shot while resisting arrest.

[MEC-777]

Around here where I live, if you go "the limit" you'll get rear-ended and/or passed by everything and everyone or you'll have a long line of pissed off drivers stuck behind you. The speed "limits" and how they are enforced here is a joke. Going with the flow [of traffic] is the most safe way to drive. I've seen more people pulled over for obstructing traffic than speeding.

 

I don't think the automated driving cars should be dead-set on not exceeding the given speed limit, but rather a safe compromise between the limit and flow of surrounding traffic. 

[Keudn]

Autopilot is meant to be a super cruise control, you can't make the argument that your cruise control was speeding so you better expect to still get a ticket if the car speeds on Autopilot

[nicklmg]

the guy gets a speeding ticked for doing 75mph in 60 zone

the very interesting thing is, that although it's a BETA, "the car" detects the speed limit but doesn't enforce it - quite a big oversight

the other thing - I don't know the international legislation for driving, but here it's mandatory to have at least a hand on the steering at all times

as of right now, the auto-pilot testing is restricted to US only

The guy was issued a warning, not a ticket. Updated the title to reflect that.

Relevant section is at 12:45 in the video.

[zMeul]

The guy was issued a warning, not a ticket. Updated the title to reflect that.

Relevant section is at 12:45 in the video.

thanks for clarification

around here, we don't get a written warning - we get straight up fines 

 

our traffic police works on a quota  system, if they don't meet the quota they get reprimanded or even demoted

[RagnarokDel]

Autopilot is meant to be a super cruise control, you can't make the argument that your cruise control was speeding so you better expect to still get a ticket if the car speeds on Autopilot

You better not tell them, they may arrest you for negligence

 

PS: It's funny how people think an autopilot means it's autonomous, guess what happens if you put the autopilot on a plane and leave it to do it's thing, it's going to crash when it runs out of fuel.

[nicklmg]

thanks for clarification

around here, we don't get a written warning - we get straight up fines 

Yep it's not that common in NA either! But apparently that's what happened here, so I wanted to update to reflect that