off topic-- Turbo diesel questions

[Interfectorem]

I assume you mean MPG (miles per gallon)? Most European diesels do about 50+ MPG. That's pretty terrible yo.

Not terrible at all for a giant 7.3L deisel work truck engine that weighs a few tons.

[ShadowCaptain]

Well yeah, but that's because we try to get 150bph out of a 1.4L. (new seat)

 

we do cos we are awesome we get 5x more power and like 5x the fuel efficiency 

[ZetZet]

You just don't get that here

You do. BMW 3L turbo-diesels run up to 1 million KM. Turbos do need restoring though.

[Majestic]

Not terrible at all for a giant 7.3L deisel work truck engine that weighs a few tons.

 

Yeah I know, it's terrible as in very eco-unfriendly

[Majestic]

You do. BMW 3L turbo-diesels run up to 1 million KM. Turbos do need restoring though.

 

Or an old mercedes 300 flat diesel. 

[ShadowCaptain]

You do. BMW 3L turbo-diesels run up to 1 million KM. Turbos do need restoring though.

 

Some cars might, I just mean its rare to see people buying and running cars with 250k let alone 500k on the clock (I am talking miles here not KM)

 

I wouldnt buy a car with more than 70 or 80k , bought my audi when it had 60k

[ZetZet]

Not terrible at all for a giant 7.3L deisel work truck engine that weighs a few tons.

It is terrible. Vans that weigh a few tons do up to 40MPG in europe. http://www.silberauto.com/files/Tootekataloogid/New_Sprinter_Van_eng_2013.pdf

 

 

Or an old mercedes 300 flat diesel. 

Yea, but that is the key thing, old.  :lol:

[AlwaysFSX]

The 7.3L was a pretty bullet proof engine if you treat it right you can get a loooooooot of miles on it.

7.3L my god, as a European that makes me cringe.

Uh huh...

 

210k is nothing for a diesel, especially a 1993!!

I've seen quite a few that are in the 600k range on stock internals.

 

210k is a lot, I wouldn't even look at  a car that had done like 90 or 100k, then again UK journeys are shorter and the cars are more highly tuned

 

I assume lazy US engines are more reliable

210k on these is literally nothing. They can last a stupid amount of miles.

[Interfectorem]

It is terrible. Vans that weigh a few tons do up to 40MPG in europe. http://www.silberauto.com/files/Tootekataloogid/New_Sprinter_Van_eng_2013.pdf

 

 

Yea, but that is the key thing, old.  :lol:

Well that's reasomable, considering it's a smaller engine and newer tech. I also imagine that efficiency is a higher priority in Europe than it is in the USA.

[ZetZet]

Well that's reasomable, considering it's a smaller engine and newer tech. I also imagine that efficiency is a higher priority in Europe than it is in the USA.

Yep. Fuel efficiency benefits everyone so...

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/02/12/paris-to-ban-all-old-cars-from-city-limits-starting-next-year/

[Interfectorem]

Yep. Fuel efficiency benefits everyone so...

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/02/12/paris-to-ban-all-old-cars-from-city-limits-starting-next-year/

There was a similar program here once, where they'd give you up to $4,500 (I think) on a new car if you traded in your old one.

[dadasmithywinkle]

Yep. Fuel efficiency benefits everyone so...

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/02/12/paris-to-ban-all-old-cars-from-city-limits-starting-next-year/

That's a pile of shit. I would be pissed if I couldnt drive my car in the city anymore.

[MrRedFox13]

210k is nothing for a diesel, especially a 1993!!

at 55 mph that is 159 days of running not to mention oil changes i argree but be aware it may be a abused engine for it being such a huge wonderful engine I<3 7.3 and 6.9

[Real_PhillBert]

Be careful of the insight here. The '93 ford 7.3L is not a ford engine, its an international Harvester engine that was put in ford pickups until 1994. So people talking about their good luck with later models have a different engine all together. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Harvester_IDI

[ZetZet]

That's a pile of shit. I would be pissed if I couldnt drive my car in the city anymore.

Buy a car that is not 20 years old pretty simple.

[brokencross]

Some cars might, I just mean its rare to see people buying and running cars with 250k let alone 500k on the clock (I am talking miles here not KM)

 

I wouldnt buy a car with more than 70 or 80k , bought my audi when it had 60k

An Audi, Mercedes, BMW, VW, etc with 120k km is virtually new.

[Dzzope]

90k is average for a rep mobile in 1 - 2 years.. My old passat TDI had near 600k before I sold it and was still running strong.

I wouldn't really consider a diesel even run in till it had 30k on the clock..

 

My dads ex bos had an isusu trooper that rolled over from 999,999 and did another 120k before he scrapped it.. BTW, my dad was a mechanic, mainly working on trucks and diesels, I used to work with him too before college.. newer is nice and so is low mileage..

But an engine will run for many hundreds of thousands of miles before it needs anything more major than an oil change and timing-belt / water pump..

You should be more concerned about clutches and gearboxes.. If it was a city car with that mileage, even more-so as they spend more time in low gears and start-stop.. 

 

My mothers old Astra petrol had 500k on it before it was scrapped.. and that was a 1.4 petrol..

 

There is a reason why diesels are used in trucks, lorry, vans, boats, generators and so on.. They will run and run and run..

[ShadowCaptain]

An Audi, Mercedes, BMW, VW, etc with 120k km is virtually new.

 

I disagree, I got my 2007 Audi with 60k on it and its now about 83ka and losing money rapidly so I need to sell before its worth nothing

[Trik'Stari]

Make sure you get those turbo seals checked. One leak and your engine runs away and destroys itself. Feeding off of the oil behind the leaking seal.

[Stefken89]

Diesel is $3/gallon or $.7925/litre here... what is it there?

it's about 1,3 €/L (=1,5 $)... 

and then we get taxed on CO2 emission as well... You can see how it would get very expensive very fast here

[Dzzope]

 

210k is a lot, I wouldn't even look at  a car that had done like 90 or 100k, then again UK journeys are shorter and the cars are more highly tuned

 

I assume lazy US engines are more reliable

And I'm from Ireland so your still not changing anything. The only reason to worry about a car with that low mileage is if it's been ragged.

 

 

I disagree, I got my 2007 Audi with 60k on it and its now about 83ka and losing money rapidly so I need to sell before its worth nothing

All newer and bigger cars lose value faster than smaller and older ones.

The 83k on it in 8 years is about 10k per year.. Average is 12k.. Much much more if you look at rep cars / taxis and so on.. 80k is NOTHING for a 2007.. you should (as long as it's insurance group isn't too high and it's in top nick) get top price for that in it's year, also as long as it isn't due a timing belt / water pump change.. Though that can be around the 60 - 120k mark depending on the engine.

[Stefken89]

 

7.3L... that would be unbearable to support financially here. Taxes + diesel...

 

Here we try to use as less as we can, that's why I drive a 1.5L diesel renault megane.

 

thats a little car we are talking http://www.internationalpowerstroke.com/73psd.htmlof towing anything

 

it's not thát small... pictures

I can fit everything I need in it or tow a small trailer, so it's good enough for me.

 

 

I can't really think of a reason a normal person like me would need that kind of truck. But hey, if you need it, you need it

[Stefken89]

Diesel is specifically €0.66 per liter. (I converted everything for you and I assumed euros). How much is it in Belgium?

 

1,3 €/L, + emission tax...

[Dzzope]

Only reason for a truck that big is towing very heavy loads.

 

 

it's not thát small... pictures

I can fit everything I need in it or tow a small trailer, so it's good enough for me.

 

 

I can't really think of a reason a normal person like me would need that kind of truck. But hey, if you need it, you need it 

 

[nerdyrcdriver]

Make sure you get those turbo seals checked. One leak and your engine runs away and destroys itself. Feeding off of the oil behind the leaking seal.

 

Thats pretty much what just happened to my escape hybrid. Brought it in for warranty work and the dealership noticed that the rear main seal was in poor shape, but figured it would be fine for another couple years. 260 miles later I was most of the way home from college with an engine that was killing itself. That was an expensive day. Insurance is the dumbest thing ever. It didn't cover that breaking, but would have covered it had I hit a tree (of course my rates would have gone up). Of course the warranty on the engine expired literally the week before. 

 

The 7.3L will run for a long time if maintained properly. I see a couple of them daily when they are working on redoing the roof on our engineering building. I peaked my head in the window and those suckers are sitting at over 400,000 miles and that is probably almost all on campus miles (lower than 30mph) and probably many winters of plowing and laying salt. 

 

Edit: keep in mind that I am at a university where they don't really pay much for labor on vehicle repair because automotive students learn by doing the repairs. So it is really part cost and then like 1/3rd the normal labor cost for the repair.