off topic-- Turbo diesel questions

[emachado99]

The 1999-2001 7.3's I know were pretty good, and you can get those things running for a long time. At least a good 500k+. I'd definetly stay away from the 6.0's, they are nothing but problems.

My personal favourites are the 6.4's and the 6.7's. I plan (and hope) to have a 6.4 by the end of Grade 11 (I'll be 17 and have my G2), as the 6.4 is probably a bit more affordable than the 6.7's for now

[nerdyrcdriver]

If it werent for the damn 4 speed tranny, I'd be able to go faster.

 

I'd advise you looks for a diesel and 4x4 in the least. The truck you found is nice, but there are most likely more and better out there. CHECK FOR RUST though.

 

I know how you feel with that. The CVT in my hybrid is not happy above 80mph and prefers to take a while to get there. But I feel like that is the modified 2.3l inline 4 designed to sacrifice power for efficiency. 

 

Agreed on the 4x4 and other options. 

[Psykomantis00]

210k is a lot, I wouldn't even look at  a car that had done like 90 or 100k, then again UK journeys are shorter and the cars are more highly tuned

 

I assume lazy US engines are more reliable

210k isn't kilometers it's 210 thousand miles. Not sure if that was clear. That isn't a lot of mileage for an american diesel truck. It's not uncommon for American Diesel trucks to have 500k Miles on them or even a million. If maintained properly they will literally last forever. 

[ZetZet]

Mine has roughly 380,000km on the clock and is the same age as yours, a 2003. While 4 years may be a little while, its not long enough to kill a vehicle that has already ran well for 12 years. Unless you have issues around or before the warranty goes out, then you should be able to drive it forever, given you have proper maintenence. 

12 year old vehicle has 8 years to go not 4.

[ShadowCaptain]

210k isn't kilometers it's 210 thousand miles. Not sure if that was clear. That isn't a lot of mileage for an american diesel truck. It's not uncommon for American Diesel trucks to have 500k Miles on them or even a million. If maintained properly they will literally last forever. 

 

I use miles.. and I was just saying here in the UK people would think you were insane for buying anything with 500k miles on it but we dont have american trucks  

 

I just thought it was an interesting dichotomy 

[KayTees]

Diesel is $3/gallon or $.7925/litre here... what is it there?

$0.7925 a Litre? Thats roughly 96 cents CAD. Regular right now is at around $1.32 for regular and $1.48-$1.52 for Premium in Vancouver. Summers coming up, If I remember, I filled up my Dads ML550 last year and it was around $1.63/L for 94 at Chevron.

[Dzzope]

It doesn't, but we can't ban expensive big engined cars because they are willing to pay more taxes for that. Money is always needed sadly.

Small old polluting cars can be banned/taxed more too though. Big old cars are the worst offenders still.

I don't know where you get your information but if you can drive in a city centre, you can drive.. There is no bans on older cars. More likely is ban on heavy goods vehicles.

 

The way they get rid of old polluting and unsafe cars is by a national car test (Mot in UK, NCT in Ireland for example) where if your car fails, it's done.. Either fix it up to pass the tests a second time round or scrap it.

[ZetZet]

I don't know where you get your information but if you can drive in a city centre, you can drive.. There is no bans on older cars. More likely is ban on heavy goods vehicles.

 

The way they get rid of old polluting and unsafe cars is by a national car test (Mot in UK, NCT in Ireland for example) where if your car fails, it's done.. Either fix it up to pass the tests a second time round or scrap it.

There are no bans on anything yet. The bans are coming.

[Dzzope]

There are no bans on anything yet. The bans are coming.

Not likely.. In cities with restrictions / charges already in place, it's Heavy goods vehicles (articulated and rigid lorries over a certain size) or just charges depending on your vehicles class or tax band (all going to emissions based anyway).. You won't see them ban canrs.. They just put the price to where people won't pay (or most people won't) and push towards public transport.. Like in London..

[ZetZet]

Not likely.. In cities with restrictions / charges already in place, it's Heavy goods vehicles (articulated and rigid lorries over a certain size) or just charges depending on your vehicles class or tax band (all going to emissions based anyway).. You won't see them ban canrs.. They just put the price to where people won't pay (or most people won't) and push towards public transport.. Like in London..

What are you talking about not likely, it's already planned and starts soon. It's not a question of if it happen it's a question when.  :lol:

 

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/02/12/paris-to-ban-all-old-cars-from-city-limits-starting-next-year/

You probably did not even read.  Every country has slightly different implementations, but bans and heavier restrictions will come to every european country.

[Dzzope]

I use miles.. and I was just saying here in the UK people would think you were insane for buying anything with 500k miles on it but we dont have american trucks

 

I just thought it was an interesting dichotomy 

Again.. your mistaken.. anyone in the UK with half a brain would check the condition of the car, check the service history, drive it / get it checked by a mechanic and drive away laughing at all the people like you who turn their noses up at it.

 

As long as it's been taken care of and maintained properly.. you just being either a total idiot or a total snob.

Yes as miles go up, more stuff needs to have been done to the car overall, thats why you heck it out.. but if a new car (under 3 years old) hasn't had an oil change or filters done.. it's as bad or worse for that engine.. And I've seen this allot... You find many people who buy mid to luxury cars (BMW, Audi, Merc etc) and replace every 2 - 3 years, simply don't look after them.

(BTW, this "view", or "opinion" comes from a group of dealerships and working on and selling their cars that have been traded in.. All the other stuff (golfs, astra,s etc) were in good nick.. But the 2 - 4 year old cars of the same brand as the dealerships we were owned by.. They were SOOO bad. And the dealership would fake the service history on most of them so they would sell.. I'll never buy a car thats being re-sold by the same dealership..)

[Dzzope]

What are you talking about not likely, it's already planned and starts soon. It's not a question of if it happen it's a question when.  :lol:

 

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/02/12/paris-to-ban-all-old-cars-from-city-limits-starting-next-year/

You probably did not even read.  Every country has slightly different implementations, but bans and heavier restrictions will come to every european country.

Thats 1 cities solution (possibly 2).. Not an EU official stance. Which is what your making it sound like.

[MG2R]

7.3L my god, as a European that makes me cringe.

As a European, that makes me jealous

[ZetZet]

Thats 1 cities solution (possibly 2).. Not an EU official stance. Which is what your making it sound like.

Is it EU official stance even in my country they are talking about bans on old cars and much scricter regulations. It's just the implementation can't be sudden like I said it would be shocking, so they go slow.

[ShadowCaptain]

Again.. your mistaken.. anyone in the UK with half a brain would check the condition of the car, check the service history, drive it / get it checked by a mechanic and drive away laughing at all the people like you who turn their noses up at it.

 

Yeah I would 100% turn my nose up at a high mileage car, since I can get a similar car with much lower mileage for not much money

 

High milage lowers prices

 

(I work in the car industry and I do pricing data for my fleet, plus I see auction values, CAP and glasses guide prices and everything all update do that I actually do the direct download for every week so I know about vehicle pricing more than most people) one MAJOR factor to a vehicles price is miles

 

Call me a snob or whatever you want but I would not buy a high milage car unless it was sub £2000 or was not going to be my main car

[SeriouslyMikey]

Can I just ask why there's a need for such a large engine? 

I know nothing. >~>

[Dzzope]

Yeah I would 100% turn my nose up at a high mileage car, since I can get a similar car with much lower mileage for not much money

 

High milage lowers prices

 

(I work in the car industry and I do pricing data for my fleet, plus I see auction values, CAP and glasses guide prices and everything all update do that I actually do the direct download for every week so I know about vehicle pricing more than most people) one MAJOR factor to a vehicles price is miles

 

Call me a snob or whatever you want but I would not buy a high milage car unless it was sub £2000 or was not going to be my main car

This is why I'm calling you either ignorant or a Snob.. and from your response it seems it's a snob... Even though the value drops, does not mean the car is worse / better.. The care and maintenance is much more important.

 

If you will dismiss a car for having nothing wrong with it but high miles, especially when you can pay less.. your either a fool or a snob... The reason the value drops is because people have a misconception around mileage.

 

My point is that any car can be good or bad, you don't decide based on the miles.

[Dzzope]

Can I just ask why there's a need for such a large engine? 

I know nothing. >~>

Lage number of torqs, lower revs and less potent fuel to get the power from.

[adamsjus1]

Can I just ask why there's a need for such a large engine? 

I know nothing. >~>

Because I want more power. And its not 100% for the engine. Its for a bigger truck because I wanted extended cab with an 8ft bed And its 4x4 when my current truck is only a 2x4. 

 

and

 

 

I NEED MORE POWER!!!

[MG2R]

This is why I'm calling you either ignorant or a Snob.. and from your response it seems it's a snob...

 

Is it really necessary to call him anything because he has a different opinion or view point than you?

 

To quote the code of conduct:

• "Don't be a dick" - Wil Wheaton.
• "Be excellent to each other" - Bill and Ted.

[Dzzope]

 

Is it really necessary to call him anything because he has a different opinion or view point than you?

 

To quote the code of conduct:

Simply because he's either unaware of something (ignorant) or looks down at something because it not perceived as being good enough even though there is no validity to the reasoning (a snob) and perpetuating that either everyone in the UK is the same as him or that others may believe the BS  he is spreading. I wasn't being derogatory in anything I said, it wasn't meant to be offensive, just a statement describing his point of view on a very specific subject where he is absolutely wrong.

 

If I caused offence, I'm sorry.. But at the same time:

[MG2R]

I wasn't being derogatory in anything I said, it wasn't meant to be offensive, just a statement describing his point of view on a very specific subject where he is absolutely wrong.

 

There is no right and wrong when you're discussing whether or you'd buy a car based on whatever criteria you make decisions in that matter. What you consider wrong is nothing more than your opinion. Doesn't mean the other dude is wrong, just means his opinion differs.

 

Honestly, I don't care what your reasoning behind the name calling was, I just care about keeping the forums clean of it. Because no matter whether you think name calling shouldn't matter to an individual (as is portrayed by the video you linked), it restricts people from expressing their opinions (because they actually might care more about it than you) and generally creates a negative atmosphere on the forums (something which we try to avoid at all times).

 

That's the last I'll discuss about it in this thread (because I don't want to derail it further). Should you have any more concerns about this you wish to discuss, feel free to hit me up on PM

[rentaspoon]

7.3L my god, as a European that makes me cringe.

7.3L... that would be unbearable to support financially here. Taxes + diesel...

Here we try to use as less as we can, that's why I drive a 1.5L diesel renault megane.

1.8 petrol costs me £230 a year in tax. And its a Ford.

[ShadowCaptain]

 

SNIP

 

Call me what you want, I am just going on my A - opinion and B - experience in the industry and C - everyone I know who has bought a car or discussed buying a car with me, and everbody I know who owns a car so....yeah

 

But fair enough I respect some people may just not care about that aspect

 

SNIP

 

Thankyou

[rentaspoon]

snip

Got to agree with this, won't buy a car over 70,000. Had issues with cars over 100,000 and always avoid cars that are from the coastal areas. The UK weather is not nice to cars and the scrappage scheme killed the used car sales so there is no such thing as a cheap car now. That's from first hand experience and motor trade experience.