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i mentioned you 2 hrs before the video was made public , right after you posted that why lock the thread status , then you went off grid 

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Utter rubbish

 

You can easily wait until you have edited all the parts before starting the release. Then release them daily or weekly in a timely fashion. What you're doing now is pushing out whatever is completed and totally disjointing the series. I can't even remember the detail from the first part but I remember liking it and wanting to see the next one.

 

Multipart is fine but is has to be professional and come out together on a set schedule so people can really enjoy them.

 

Have you never watched a TV series before? Weekly sporting events? 

 

I'd agree with a large portion of this comment if it was in reference to the whole room watercooling videos. Despite being some of the best content on the channel, the sporadic releases resulted in me basically rewatching portions of the previous videos for stuff to make sense.

 

But in the first scrapyard wars video, they announced that parts 2 and 3 would be coming on Saturdays, and that the videos are already done.

 

Though, I guess you probably forgot that detail.

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Have you never watched a TV series before? Weekly sporting events? 

 

I'd agree with a large portion of this comment if it was in reference to the whole room watercooling videos. Despite being some of the best content on the channel, the sporadic releases resulted in me basically rewatching portions of the previous videos for stuff to make sense.

 

But in the first scrapyard wars video, they announced that parts 2 and 3 would be coming on Saturdays, and that the videos are already done.

 

Though, I guess you probably forgot that detail.

 

The videos aren't "done" as in edited but they have been shot. So for part 3 I have to figure out the layout, watch through the footage (there's about 40 minutes for each side of just build and then there's all the benchmarking footage).

 

I don't have anyone to log my footage as it comes in like a larger production would, I don't have a writer or producer to steer things in a semi-planned manner, besides there being a goal, the footage is pretty much random.

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The videos aren't "done" as in edited but they have been shot. So for part 3 I have to figure out the layout, watch through the footage (there's about 40 minutes for each side of just build and then there's all the benchmarking footage).

 

I don't have anyone to log my footage as it comes in like a larger production would, I don't have a writer or producer to steer things in a semi-planned manner, besides there being a goal, the footage is pretty much random.

 

I'm guessing that the third part will come out next week. No?

 

Also, @Slick should give you moderator/staff status here on the forum.

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If Linus is able to overclock the CPU to 3.6 GHz and overclock the HD 7950 balls to the wall he may have an advantage. An HD 7950 once overclocked can reach 70% of the performance of the r9 290 which in turn is going to be bottlenecked bad. But the games which are gonna be benchmarked are GPU dependent .-. Its so close haha. Anyone know when the next episode is gonna come out?

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I'm not saying that it's stupidly slow though. What I mean is that it can handle a lot of games at a playable frame rate, but as soon as that PCIE bandwith gets completely stuffed, you're not going to get the performance you really should. 

Typically, especially with new hardware and new processors, bottlenecking should hardly exist. But in this scenario, he's using a ~10 year old CPU (that still hauls some ass) with a video adapter card that pushes HUNDREDS of gigabytes per second of bandwidth through that old PCI Express 2.0 port.

pcie isnt a limit, even today, its been tested (by linus among others) pcie 2.0 8x has within margin of error performance hit (well within 5%) so pcie 1.0 16x will still be fine with an r9-290.

that e8400 overclocked to 4ghz (luke, we have faith...) will reach 75%ish the performance of the q6600 assuming its around@3ghz that said that board is baller (googled it) so linus isnt likely to throttle and will get most out of that q6600 which is going to be great for all the tests except maybe dirt3 which can run on a toaster.

mantle would help out allot here but they're going to be measuring fps with fraps i bet and im unsure if firestrike can use it.

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and they make more money from multi part episodes

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I <3 LGA 775 systems. I have a Q8300 sitting around THAT NEEDS TO BE USED

 

Feel the same way.  Next to me is an x48 rampage formula system, with DDR2 1066 and a q8200.

 

That thing's a beast, but i get less performance in games than when I had a pentium E5300 at 4 GHz in the same system.

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After doing some more research, I've found these things:

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-Core2-Duo-E8400
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Duo+E8400+%40+3.00GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Quad+Q6600+%40+2.40GHz
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_2/Intel-Core%202%20Quad%20Q6600%20HH80562PH0568M%20(BX80562Q6600).html
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_2/Intel-Core%202%20Duo%20E8400%20EU80570PJ0806M%20-%20AT80570PJ0806M%20(BX80570E8400).html
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/704/Intel_Core_2_Duo_E8400_vs_Intel_Core_2_Quad_Q6600.html

Overall, the Q6600 is better for multimedia instructions and games that take advantage of those 2 other cores will definitely see a huge advantage. But games that use single/dual cores will put up one hell of a fight given the E8400's advantage in single core performance.

 

 

This looks like it's gonna be a photo finish, guys!

 

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(Image credit of CPUWorld)

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After doing some more research, I've found these things:

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-Core2-Duo-E8400

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Duo+E8400+%40+3.00GHz

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Quad+Q6600+%40+2.40GHz

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_2/Intel-Core%202%20Quad%20Q6600%20HH80562PH0568M%20(BX80562Q6600).html

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_2/Intel-Core%202%20Duo%20E8400%20EU80570PJ0806M%20-%20AT80570PJ0806M%20(BX80570E8400).html

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/704/Intel_Core_2_Duo_E8400_vs_Intel_Core_2_Quad_Q6600.html

Overall, the Q6600 is better for multimedia instructions and games that take advantage of those 2 other cores will definitely see a huge advantage. But games that use single/dual cores will put up one hell of a fight given the E8400's advantage in single core performance.

 

 

This looks like it's gonna be a photo finish, guys!

 

attachicon.gifcore 2 quad vs e8400.PNG

(Image credit of CPUWorld)

 

This is going to be a long week. :D

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This is going to be a long week. :D

You can say that again. Holy crap.

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290 and a core 2 quad for @Slick

I can tell you that my phenom II bottlenecked my 270x in MANY games.

So thats gonna be a huge bottleneck im 100% sure.

I think he got a core 2 quad , please correct me if I am wrong.

Slick's system : core 2 duo e8400 and r9 290

Linus's system: core 2 quad q6600 and HD 7950 (to put in perspective a r9 280)

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I'm loving this series, i wish we will see another scrapyard war in the future.

 

My take on the winner is that Linus is gonna win this one, he has made the right decision/was lucky to pick a Q6600 and still finding an high end video card to add. 

Luke found a r9 290 which is a beast and surely has the edge over Linus' 7950 but the E8400 (which is my main CPU for gaming believe it or not... being poor sucks) will be an huuuuuuge bottleneck, the only way i can see Luke winning is that he has managed to catch a nice cooler for its CPU off camera so that he can overclock like hell.

 

Just a curiosity, when this "contest" has took place?

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core 2 duo , oh dear.

Thats huge bottleneck.

Yeah :// core 2 duos are known to bottleneck HD 7770s in modern games haha, let alone an r9 290. The games tested however are very GPU dependent so maybe slick's added GPU horsepower will prevail or maybe not. Its pretty close haha.
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The videos aren't "done" as in edited but they have been shot. So for part 3 I have to figure out the layout, watch through the footage (there's about 40 minutes for each side of just build and then there's all the benchmarking footage).

 

I don't have anyone to log my footage as it comes in like a larger production would, I don't have a writer or producer to steer things in a semi-planned manner, besides there being a goal, the footage is pretty much random.

Thank you for explaining why it takes time to edit a video like this!

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Luke will win

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You can say that again. Holy crap.

This is going to be a long week. :D

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This is going to be a long week. :D

I approve.

Eric S. Raymond used an E6600 from 2005 until 12/30/14 or open source software creation. Raw data computations in excess of 18GB each. Core 2 Duos still have tons of life left, my friend.

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depends on what clock it gets and what they bench :)

 

You changed your member title :(

 

In most modern games its a burden even at high clocks with some exceptions.

 

I have no idea what they are going to bench tho.

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You changed your member title :(

 

In most modern games its a burden even at high clocks with some exceptions.

 

I have no idea what they are going to bench tho.

I did, people keep calling me the 775 guy :D linus posted my guide to his facebook so lots of new people are asking me stuff via pm :P

 

I think in some tests a well clock 8400 will murder a 6600.

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