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Western Digital , HGST expect helium-filled HDDs to get more popular this year

HGST, a wholly owned subsidiary of Western Digital, first announced its helium-filled hard disk drives in 2013 and started their shipments in 2014. Such drives have a number of advantages compared to traditional HDDs, but they still have not gained popularity because both WD and Seagate produce hard drives with comparable capacity that are not sealed. However, this year a lot may change.
 

At present HGST offers Ultrastar He hard drives with 6TB and 8TB capacities for applications that require maximum storage density and relatively high performance. Such HDDs compete with HGST’s Ultrastar 6TB hard drives, WD’s Ae 6.3TB HDDs as well as Seagate’s Enterprise Capacity, Enterprise NAS and Archive hard disk products with 5TB – 8TB capacities. While the Ultrastar He products have some advantages compared to rival products, they are still not radically better than competitors, which is a reason of their relatively low popularity.
 

In the coming months HGST plans to release 10TB UltraStar HelioSeal hard drive that will offer a massive capacity advantage over all existing solutions. The drive is based on seven 1.43TB SMR [shingled magnetic recording] platters and is filed with helium. While Seagate also plans to introduce its 10TB HDD this year (based on six 1.66TB SMR platters), the company will likely do that only in late 2015, which means that the Ultrastar He 10TB will have a significant time-to-market advantage. The release of the 10TB helium-filled drive as well as the ramp of 8TB product will help the drives to gain market share because so far the adoption of such HDDs has been slow.

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“Helium, as an individual category, particularly as it relates to 6TB drive, probably did not have a material impact [on our business],” said Steve Milligan, chief executive officer and president of Western Digital, during a recent conference call with investors and financial analysts. “We believe that as we transition to the 8TB platform with the helium product, we will begin to see a bit of a larger impact.”
 

Mike Cordano, the president of HGST, also believes that the use of helium-filled hard drives will increase this year. In an interview withDigiTimes he predicted “a large increase in the use of helium-filled hard disk drives” in data centers
in 2015.

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But but but what's the price?

Inquiry: If I put the helium to absolute zero, will it start flowing everywhere?

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What If I chew on it like I do with flash drives on my desk. WIll it break and let the helium  out!

Aha always a problem.

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What If I chew on it like I do with flash drives on my desk. WIll it break and let the helium  out!

Aha always a problem.

they'll be sealed by the looks of it in metal , although i sense sarcasm 

 

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What If I chew on it like I do with flash drives on my desk. WIll it break and let the helium  out!

Aha always a problem.

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Im interested.. Still torn on whether I want to my games library on a raid ssd or hdd.. Definitely going to put my blu ray collection on HDD hahahaha

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Then you can speak in a funny voice!

 

 

What If I chew on it like I do with flash drives on my desk. WIll it break and let the helium  out!

Aha always a problem.

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I'd love a few 10TB drives, only I think I'd have to take out a mortgage in order to afford them

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With SSD's slowly getting cheaper and more reliable....what's the point?

 

After using an SSD for my OS, I will never go back to HDD's full time. The difference is just so ridiculously huge. (granted I'm using a samsung 840 pro. Hasn't missed a beat or made a single peep since I first installed my OS on it)

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(granted I'm using a samsung 840 pro. Hasn't missed a beat or made a single peep since I first installed my OS on it)

same, have 840 pro, i'm never switching back to HDD, but when it comes to storage ... i still don't trust SSD's , that's where these 10 TB HDD's come's in place 

 

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same, have 840 pro, i'm never switching back to HDD, but when it comes to storage ... i still don't trust SSD's 

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I still, even after a year of living with it, cannot believe the difference between and SSD and HDD. It's like....why do HDD's even exist anymore?

 

I go to use my mom's HDD computer and it's like.....ok....come on....I shouldn't be able to go take a piss before you open internet explorer....

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#840promasterrace.

 

I still, even after a year of living with it, cannot believe the difference between and SSD and HDD. It's like....why do HDD's even exist anymore?

you can never recover stuff from an SSD if it's broke, but you can in Magnetic disks

 

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you can never recover stuff from an SSD if it's broke, but you can in Magnetic disks

True. I'd use an HDD as a backup drive, but never again for OS and main drive.

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True. I'd use an HDD as a backup drive, but never again for OS and main drive.

yup , and 10 TB HDD's make sense 

 

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But we are running out of heluim and we need heluim to cool stuff like MRI scanners and quantum bit computers. This just seems almost as big of a waste of helium as helium filled baloons.

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But we are running out of heluim and we need heluim to cool stuff like MRI scanners and quantum bit computers. This just seems almost as big of a waste of helium as helium filled baloons.

It's 1000 time better to cap them in our Hard drives than letting them out of our atmosphere, because if you don't use it , it will get out of Ozone no matter what  

 

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With SSD's slowly getting cheaper and more reliable....what's the point?

 

After using an SSD for my OS, I will never go back to HDD's full time. The difference is just so ridiculously huge. (granted I'm using a samsung 840 pro. Hasn't missed a beat or made a single peep since I first installed my OS on it)

Because SSDs cost something like 10x more per gigabyte than HDDs. If you want to store lots of stuff like the users in the 10TB thread, you'd be mad to do it with SSDs.

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you can never recover stuff from an SSD if it's broke, but you can in Magnetic disks

 

Lots of people make this claim.  But how many people actually send drives in to get recovered?  I have gotten quotes for data recovery.  You are talking 1-5k for basic recovery attempts, with 5-25 business day turn-around.  The more complex the situation with your drive, the more costly.  I don't even know a lot of businesses that pay for these services.  Granted, the services are doing fine, because there is still those rares needs where people and companies will pay whatever it costs.  But more often than not, people and companies just call it a loss.

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Lots of people make this claim.  But how many people actually send drives in to get recovered?  I have gotten quotes for data recovery.  You are talking 1-5k for basic recovery attempts, with 5-25 business day turn-around.  The more complex the situation with your drive, the more costly.  I don't even know a lot of businesses that pay for these services.  Granted, the services are doing fine, because there is still those rares needs where people and companies will pay whatever it costs.  But more often than not, people and companies just call it a loss.

but can you say the same about SSD, has anyone ever in the history of SSD has even recovered a single bytes ? HDD is not fool proof yes , but it's better than SSD's the magnetic disk doesn't magically erase itself when it gets broken usually by the mechanical failure most of the times 

 

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but can you say the same about SSD, has anyone ever in the history of SSD has even recovered a single bytes ? HDD is not fool proof yes , but it's better than SSD's the magnetic disk doesn't magically erase itself when it gets broken usually by the mechanical failure most of the times 

 

My statement was not really in regards to the feasibility of recovering data.  It was more in regards to the likelihood that someone even would bother.  It is kind of a false argument to make if no one chooses the recovery route because more often than not it isn't worth it.  Besides, the unrecoverable nature of SSDs combined with their extreme access speeds makes them better for data security purposes.  1 drive format and all data is gone.

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Finally a better use of He than those stupid party balloons which just end up wasting our limited supply of He with no useful applicative purpose.

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you can never recover stuff from an SSD if it's broke, but you can in Magnetic disks

mission critical data is never stored on just one drive though. It's way easier to have a few mirrored back-ups than rely on being able to recover data. Doing that with SSD's is kinda pointless though as a back-up doesn't need speed, just density.

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How the hell do they keep the Helium inside, the HDDs for an extended time. One of the most common problems with Helium storage its that it can slip through even metal bottles.

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