Direct X 12 Doesn't require a new GPU*

[werto165]

Never fear, DX-12 is here(not really here but whatever), for your current GPU(*probably). 

 

"You won’t actually need a new graphics card to run Microsoft’s new DirectX 12 API, which will be baked into Windows 10 later this year. Microsoft has formally confirmed that modern GPUs will indeed work with DX12 afterall."

 

"“While we are not yet ready to detail everything related to DirectX12, we can share that we are working closely with all of our hardware partners to help ensure that most modern PC gaming hardware will work well with DirectX12, including; nVidia’s Maxwell, Kepler and Fermi-based GPUs, Intel’s 4th generation (and newer) Core processors and AMD’s Graphics Core Next (GCN) based GPUs. We’ll have more to share about DirectX12 at GDC in March.”

 

It's great that the majority of current GPUs/iGPUs will work with DX-12. Hopefully my 660ti will be supported, however I will most likely be upgrading my GPU before any games that utilize DX-12 come out. 

 

EDIT: 

 

""To get the full benefits of DX12, the answer is yes(you do need a new gpu),” Mike Ybarra, Partner Director of Program Management, Xbox Platform told us." 

 

"DirectX 12 will indeed make lower-level abstraction available (but not mandatory—there will be backward-compatibility with DX11) on existing hardware. However, Tamasi explained that DirectX 12 will introduce a set of new features in addition to the lower-level abstraction, and those features will require new hardware. "

 

So, it turns out you sort of do need new hardware to get all the benefits of DX-12. 

 

 

 

Sauce: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2873545/dont-panic-directx12-wont-require-a-new-graphics-card-after-all.html

[DildorTheDecent]

Yeah your 660Ti is supported. 

 

I think everything from the 400/500 series is. 

[JAKEBAB]

I thought we already knew this except there will be some things that u will need a new gpu for

[bcredeur97]

"Direct X 12 Doesn't require a new GPU*"

--6950 isnt supported, and lets face it, its not that old. and is still a powerful mid-range card.

 

I have two of them... guess they are USELESS

[werto165]

I thought we already knew this except there will be some things that u will need a new gpu for

Yeah, I just found it in another article: "To get the full benefits of DX12, the answer is yes,” Mike Ybarra, Partner Director of Program Management, Xbox Platform told us. 

[ZetZet]

I guess I will need a GTX1070? anyway so it does not matter to me much.  :lol:

[werto165]

I guess I will need a GTX1070? anyway so it does not matter to me much.  :lol:

why not name it GTX 1080? perfect for 1080p gaming sweet spot...

[That Norwegian Guy]

--6950 isnt supported, and lets face it, its not that old. and is still a powerful mid-range card.

 

 

A 6950 is 10% slower than a 750 Ti, which is the entriest of entry level gaming cards right now. So mid-range is an exaggeration.

[qwertywarrior]

this is the oldest news EVER

[deathjester]

"Direct X 12 Doesn't require a new GPU*"

--6950 isnt supported, and lets face it, its not that old. and is still a powerful mid-range card.

 

I have two of them... guess they are USELESS

 

 

They will play games, just not benefit from low level abstraction was my understanding.

 

Last I heard it was 7000 series and up and GTX 400 series and up, but MS said 40 percent or something would be supported at release, so I guess lot of the older Intel integrated won't get low level abstraction at release, cus that is the most popular GPU people have?

 

As far as Nvidia's comments on possible hardware, 12.1 etc? Yeah...expect those games at the end of this console generation. These devs aren't going to bother with that, especially with DX 12/Win 10 being on XB1.

 

Maybe we will see it on PC exclusives that want to cater to the higher end. Star Citizen maybe...

[Eroda]

this is good news, basically anyone with a dx11 game should just move straight to 12 no problems

[AlexGoesHigh]

I guess I will need a GTX1070? anyway so it does not matter to me much.  :lol:

900 series has full support for dx12, nvidia confirmed that on the release of the 980 and 970

[SpecTre12345]

That's not even the issue Microsoft, I don't want to have to update my OS to another one just to get DirectX 12. My current installation of Windows 7 is doing just fine. Jeez.

[ACatWithThumbs]

Not really new they said this already at the reveal last year.

[Victorious Secret]

That's not even the issue Microsoft, I don't want to have to update my OS to another one just to get DirectX 12. My current installation of Windows 7 is doing just fine. Jeez.

 

Except Windows 10 (and its DX12 greatness /s) are available for free for the year following release. 

So you really have not much of an excuse in complaining about "paying" because MS is being awfully generous in offering a free upgrade. 

[MRL]

-snip-

 

So, my question right now.... will the lower-level abstraction available on previous gen GPU as well? Or old DirectX11 GPUs will not have the performance benefit of low-level abstraction?

 

Edit: I derped again. Read the post again and it is available for old-gen hardwares...

Edited January 23, 2015 by MRL

[mr moose]

Except Windows 10 (and its DX12 greatness /s) are available for free for the year following release. 

So you really have not much of an excuse in complaining about "paying" because MS is being awfully generous in offering a free upgrade. 

 

An offer I will be taking up, even though I am still very much comfortable with 7 and have no need or desire to change because like the old saying goes, "if it ain't broke...

[Victorious Secret]

An offer I will be taking up, even though I am still very much comfortable with 7 and have no need or desire to change because like the old saying goes, "if it ain't broke...

I'll pull the old switcheroo. I have two 8 Pro licenses. One will go to Windows 10 and the other one, as always, stays as backup Incase I need it elsewhere or want to go back.

But I've dabbled in the technical preview and I really doubt I'll go back to 8.1. 10 works well for me, so far.

[mr moose]

I'll pull the old switcheroo. I have two 8 Pro licenses. One will go to Windows 10 and the other one, as always, stays as backup Incase I need it elsewhere or want to go back.

But I've dabbled in the technical preview and I really doubt I'll go back to 8.1. 10 works well for me, so far.

That's good to hear, I have never been an early adopter,  So new waters for me.

[EpicAdom]

That's not even the issue Microsoft, I don't want to have to update my OS to another one just to get DirectX 12. My current installation of Windows 7 is doing just fine. Jeez.

But it's (gonna be) free. And it has a start menu. And the nice aesthetic of Win 8.1. WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT

[SpecTre12345]

 

Except Windows 10 (and its DX12 greatness /s) are available for free for the year following release. 

So you really have not much of an excuse in complaining about "paying" because MS is being awfully generous in offering a free upgrade. 

 

This has nothing to do with paying. It has to do with principle. You shouldn't force users to do something they don't want to do just to gain one feature that is the most important of them all.

 

My current installation of Windows 7 is running smooth as butter. I shouldn't have to upgrade to an entirely different OS just to gain one feature that could be implemented in an update. It's a bad business practice.  It's like forcing someone to switch to a whole new car, because they wanted newer tires that performed better. Instead of just installing the new tires on the old one.

 

 

But it's (gonna be) free. And it has a start menu. And the nice aesthetic of Win 8.1. WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT

 

I want to keep my Windows 7 installation at least until I get a new SSD. Which isn't happening anytime soon. It has nothing to do with the free factor. 

[deathjester]

 

 

 

This has nothing to do with paying. It has to do with principle. You shouldn't force users to do something they don't want to do just to gain one feature that is the most important of them all.

 

My current installation of Windows 7 is running smooth as butter. I shouldn't have to upgrade to an entirely different OS just to gain one feature that could be implemented in an update. It's a bad business practice.  It's like forcing someone to switch to a whole new car, because they wanted newer tires that performed better. Instead of just installing the new tires on the old one.

 

 

 

I want to keep my Windows 7 installation at least until I get a new SSD. Which isn't happening anytime soon. It has nothing to do with the free factor. 

 

 

Have you ever seen Win 8.1 boot on a regular HD? It is probably as fast as a SSD on 7. They want people to have the store/API. 

 

The 8 kernel was fantastic. The problem was boot time was not worth 100 bucks and a re install to me, since the API improvements were not seen in games. Free and the API getting quick adoption? I will be jumping on that. You can also dynamically re size the partition in Windows 7, throw everything on there and then copy it back. 

[LePawel]

why not name it GTX 1080? perfect for 1080p gaming sweet spot...

WHAT? you want to make a naming scheme that makes sense!?!?! GTX1080 will be best for 4K, while re-make of GTX720 will support 1080p. Then (wait for it...) GTX >>>360<<< will support *drums* 720P BOOM! Take that peasants.

[mr moose]

 

 

 

This has nothing to do with paying. It has to do with principle. You shouldn't force users to do something they don't want to do just to gain one feature that is the most important of them all.

 

My current installation of Windows 7 is running smooth as butter. I shouldn't have to upgrade to an entirely different OS just to gain one feature that could be implemented in an update. It's a bad business practice.  It's like forcing someone to switch to a whole new car, because they wanted newer tires that performed better. Instead of just installing the new tires on the old one.

 

 

 

I want to keep my Windows 7 installation at least until I get a new SSD. Which isn't happening anytime soon. It has nothing to do with the free factor. 

 

 

So you want the latest and greatest of somethings but not others, fine I get that, I still quite like 7.  However if MS's research tells them it is more profitable to give you a free upgrade to 10 rather than make dx 12 work on 7 then it's not bad business, it's actually good business because the consumer is neither being left behind unless they choose to be, nor are they forced to pay extra for dx12 features that in all honesty aren't necessary.

[SpecTre12345]

 

Have you ever seen Win 8.1 boot on a regular HD? It is probably as fast as a SSD on 7. They want people to have the store/API. 

 

The 8 kernel was fantastic. The problem was boot time was not worth 100 bucks and a re install to me, since the API improvements were not seen in games. Free and the API getting quick adoption? I will be jumping on that. You can also dynamically re size the partition in Windows 7, throw everything on there and then copy it back. 

 

I have Windows 8.1 on my brother's rig, on an SSD and it's no faster than my Windows 7 installation on my SSD. At least not to the eye. I mean to be completely honest it looks about the same as far as boot up times go.

 

I've heard the kernel itself was good. My brother loves his Windows 8.1, we even put a start menu on it. But I'm one of those old school people who tote the saying, "If it ain't broke don't fix it." That's how I feel about my OS. I mean I ran Windows 2000 longer than any OS I've ever used. 

 

Really at this point the only thing I want is DirectX 12. Besides that there's really nothing enticing to me in regards to a newer OS. 

 

 

So you want the latest and greatest of somethings but not others, fine I get that, I still quite like 7.  However if MS's research tells them it is more profitable to give you a free upgrade to 10 rather than make dx 12 work on 7 then it's not bad business, it's actually good business because the consumer is neither being left behind unless they choose to be, nor are they forced to pay extra for dx12 features that in all honesty aren't necessary.

 

Yeah pretty much, I really love Windows 7. I think it's a great idea that they are offering the upgrade for free. I think that's a great business practice. I think ignoring the people who don't want to change, but still want some of the new technologies that are possible to bring back is bad practice. I mean, you really tell me that I need a whole new OS just to use DirectX 12?