Reports disclose Apple watch processor and battery life

[s3ns3]

 at least 12 hours of standby battery life with push and all connectivity turned on seems very possible. 

i dont want standby on a watch.no sir.i want always on screen with at least some days of battery life.not hours. 

[Mew]

i dont want standby on a watch.no sir.i want always on screen with at least some days of battery life.not hours. 

 

Well, if it's true that it has an amoled display, then the screen will most likely be on to show time and some necessary information while maintaining the 12 hours of standby life.

[lak]

Disappointing "reports" to say the least -  but I don't really believe them.

 

Smart watches have been out for a while now and Apple entering the market when it has had a reasonable amount of time to mature, means they should be a releasing a product which is polished - they've had so much time to evaluate the competition, develop a superior strategy and introduce an innovative product to earn the smart watch crown. If this watch isn't a hit then it will be bitterly disappointing and only reinforce that Apple is losing its grip over technology products - it's already stirring the software quality pot. When considering that Apple's image has been steadily deteriorating over the last 2 years, things will only get worse if the Apple watch is a flop. However, I could be wrong.

[pit5000]

I'm still waiting for the smart watch that can extend it's battery life by charging via wrist movement, just like automatic mechanical watches are charged.

excellent for those who watch porn....., just saying....

[VinceLoh89]

Yeah the Pebble seems to be the best smartwatch out there.

 

For me it's still not good enough though. For me to get a smart watch it would have to meet these criteria:

"Cheap" - Like 100 dollars would be good but up to 200 should be fine. Anything more and I will become very uninterested though.

 

Water proof - This is a must. I don't want to worry about my watch when I wash my hands, or walk in the rain, or pick up something wet.

 

Color screen - We've had color TVs for over 100 years now. I'd rather not go back to that time.

 

~7 days of battery life - That's with the time being displayed at all times. If I am going to wear a watch I want to be able to just look down on my arm and see the time, not do some gesture or press a button. As soon as I have to do that I might as well just pick up my phone.

 

Seems like the Apple Watch will only meet 1 out of those 4.

Oh and actually allowing me to do something special with my watch would be good too. Most of the things I see smart watches being used for can easily be done by simply pushing the top of my phone out from my pocket. All notifications and things are displayed at the top of the screen so I only need to expose about 1/4 of the screen to see everything that would be displayed on my watch.

Make it shoot lasers or detonate bombs or something. Then we'll talk.

Guess what, me & my team are working on creating an amazing Smartwatch & we have greater features than the market can offer! As for now we are still experimenting with our prototype before releasing it into the public!

[RexinOridle]

It's a freaking watch, why play games on it? Just put an even low power hungry OS on it and improve the battery life. Damn it. That awkward moment when your watch dies before your phone. Well I'm not even mad. I'm pissed off.

[NickTheMajin]

What are people even using wearables for? I can't see one single use for one aside from tracking exercise which I have my iPhone for anyway (for music). If I had the watch I'd have to bring that and my iPhone. 

[The Benjamins]

What are people even using wearables for? I can't see one single use for one aside from tracking exercise which I have my iPhone for anyway (for music). If I had the watch I'd have to bring that and my iPhone. 

I use my pebble steel for music control, reading short texts, emails, who is calling in my car, and its nice seeing why my phone buzzed at work with out having to pull it out. I also like wearing metal band watches, i own a few nice ones. I see them as phone enhancers not replacements.

[EpicGeekonFire]

Just underclock the chip a bit :3

[Rubymaster]

I'm still waiting for the smart watch that can extend it's battery life by charging via wrist movement, just like automatic mechanical watches are charged.

That would be amazing and the biggest break through for smart watches!  I would buy that watch and ditch my Pebble in seconds.

[Slash003]

How the hell do you play games on a watch. And why would you use a watch for anything other than checking the time? That's just ridiculous.

[soaringchicken]

Not only is it ugly, it sucks too

[patrickjp93]

I'm still waiting for the smart watch that can extend it's battery life by charging via wrist movement, just like automatic mechanical watches are charged.

The problem with this is building an inductor with enough potential to activate a charging circuit, and then you have to design the fail-safe so you don't overcharge a battery and make it explode/degrade. I actually spent a while with a mechanical and computer engineering major a couple days ago discussing this.

[Tonylu1595]

I think you will be surprise how light electronic watches are in comparison to quartz crystal or mechanical watches that most people wear, so this would make up for that delta. Then again, extra 100g for extra 5 hours of battery life, a compromise anyone in their right mind would take. 

A watch weighing as much as my phone? Nah... 

[mansoor_]

A watch weighing as much as my phone? Nah... 

Not to shock you but an iphone weighs less than an average rolex. 

[euniqe]

lol. Smartwatches are completely pointless if they don't last the duration of a shift at work.

[Techteen14]

I'm still waiting for the smart watch that can extend it's battery life by charging via wrist movement, just like automatic mechanical watches are charged.

Kinetic charging for smart devices needs to be a thing, not just in smartwatches. Smartphones too.

LOL, a four year old processor rebranded as a new one? Are they taking a page out of Motorola's book?

I want a smartwatch SO. BAD. Really, a Moto 360 with a better processor would be an instant buy. I could even live with the screen and battery life. I don't want a smartwatch to replace my phone (I don't want to look like Charles Carmichael or Maxwell Smart, taking phone calls from a watch), just a good looking one to complement it with a strong ecosystem of apps (Android Wear).

[LAwLz]

LOL, a four year old processor rebranded as a new one? Are they taking a page out of Motorola's book?

That's not the way I interpret it. They are not using just old A5 chips but rather they got a much lower power chip that performs as well as the A5.

 

It might just be a single A53 core at less than 1GHz. If they are making it on 20nm then that would be a huge difference compared to the A5. First you got the move from 45nm to 20nm, and then you have the fact that A53 takes up about 40% less die area thanks to the better architecture.

 

Apple certainly has the technology to make the chip really low power (and I think Apple is a company that would go the extra mile to implement it), and their total platform power + OS optimization has always been great.

So if the battery life is poor then my guess is either that the screen is inefficient (would explain the huge difference between screen on and standby time) or the battery is really tiny.

Or the third option would be that Apple were lazy and just didn't bother, but that seems unlikely to me.

 

 

Motorola on the other hand just flat out bought a bad and outdated chip.

[x-eagleeye-x]

The very idea of a "Smartwatch" is ridiculous to me. It is merely an extension of the experience you get from your phone, and to be brutally honest, you'd have to be one of the laziest people on earth not to reach inside your pocket or extend your arm across the desk to get your phone. It doesn't offer anything new or revolutionary. Swiping on your wrist looks stupid, more so speaking to your wrist. It makes you look like a Power Ranger. AS IF PEOPLE NEED MORE THINGS TO CHARGE. Don't get me wrong, but the concept of having something "smart" on your wrist isn't a bad idea. Smartbands for fitness tracking is quite nifty. But personally, that's as far as I will go for something "smart" strapped on to my wrist. If I want an electronic watch, I'd stick with a G-Shock. But classy, elegant and attractive mechanical watch for me any given day.

 

 

And let's face it, this "smartwatch" doesn't make you attractive at all.  <_<

[Tonylu1595]

Not to shock you but an iphone weighs less than an average rolex. 

Yeah. I held a almost pure gold one and it was pretty heavy.

[Fetzie]

LAwLz's ideas are pretty much spot on. Less than a week between charges? Not interested. If it can't display the time without me having to wake it up, I'm not interested. It has to look classy. A watch for me is more than a functional object, and that is what pretty much all smart watches look like. A watch is like a piece of juwellery (that also has a function). The smart-watches I've seen have these really cheap looking plastic wristbands. I want it to look nice.

 

I've had my current watch for nearly 10 years (it was an 18th birthday present from my grandparents). In that time, the gold plating (we're not THAT rich ) has started to rub off, but the clasp is as good as it was when it was new, it still has the same time accuracy and it has needed three battery changes since buying it. The glass pane isn't scratched, and it has survived a decent amount of showers (I sometimes forget to take it off) despite only really being rated for a bit of rainfall.

 

Right now, the smart-watches are just like the phones. They have technological obsolescence built in to them. After two years, they've brought out three new models. I'm not dropping hundreds of dollars on something that just doesn't make sense to me. Plus you probably have to turn the damn thing off every time you get on a plane.

[Techteen14]

The very idea of a "Smartwatch" is ridiculous to me.

no offense, I finally get to use that .gif

It is merely an extension of the experience you get from your phone,

That's the point.

and to be brutally honest, you'd have to be one of the laziest people on earth not to reach inside your pocket or extend your arm across the desk to get your phone.

If you're typing, what will disturb your workflow less: glancing at your watch or stopping typing, loosing your train of thought as you mess with your phone and get distracted by baby pictures your roommate's grandma's second cousin's niece just posted on Facebook, putting the device back down and typing again?

Not to mention enviroments like school where teachers don't like phones; if the notification is not urgent (e.g. Facebook), ignore, if it is, don't.

It doesn't offer anything new or revolutionary.

But it's Apple. Everything is revolutionary, especially when they totally invent a new product category. Those laggy peasant smartwatches that came out months before the Apple Watch? They copied Apple! /s

But really, it's more being able to do something in a more intuitive and efficient way. Whenever I check my phone for notifications, I feel like I have to open a few apps, which is a HUGE waste of time. A smartwatch would eliminate this bad habit.

Swiping on your wrist looks stupid, more so speaking to your wrist. It makes you look like a Power Ranger.

I don't care.

AS IF PEOPLE NEED MORE THINGS TO CHARGE.

I take my watch off at night anyway, what's an extra two seconds or so to plop it onto its Qi charger? It makes a good desk clock too. (I want the Moto 360)

Don't get me wrong, but the concept of having something "smart" on your wrist isn't a bad idea.

Everything you've said to back up this claim was subjective.

Smartbands for fitness tracking is quite nifty.

Smart watches do this, yet also look infinitely better (unless you get a square watch), run apps and tell time!

If I want an electronic watch, I'd stick with a G-Shock.

Ew, but if you like that look, there's the LG G Watch R.

But classy, elegant and attractive mechanical watch for me any given day.

 

Moto 360 is classy, elegant, attractive and can look like a mechanical watch to the casual observer.

And let's face it, this "smartwatch" doesn't make you attractive at all.  <_<

I'm not insecure about my appearance, if people judge me because I'm not a GQ model then they don't deserve my time. However, a watch like the 360 which looks nice and is higher tech than people are used to will get lots of complements.

[x-eagleeye-x]

no offense, I finally get to use that .gif

That's the point.

If you're typing, what will disturb your workflow less: glancing at your watch or stopping typing, loosing your train of thought as you mess with your phone and get distracted by baby pictures your roommate's grandma's second cousin's niece just posted on Facebook, putting the device back down and typing again?

Not to mention enviroments like school where teachers don't like phones; if the notification is not urgent (e.g. Facebook), ignore, if it is, don't.

But it's Apple. Everything is revolutionary, especially when they totally invent a new product category. Those laggy peasant smartwatches that came out months before the Apple Watch? They copied Apple! /s

But really, it's more being able to do something in a more intuitive and efficient way. Whenever I check my phone for notifications, I feel like I have to open a few apps, which is a HUGE waste of time. A smartwatch would eliminate this bad habit.

I don't care.

I take my watch off at night anyway, what's an extra two seconds or so to plop it onto its Qi charger? It makes a good desk clock too. (I want the Moto 360)

Everything you've said to back up this claim was subjective.

Smart watches do this, yet also look infinitely better (unless you get a square watch), run apps and tell time!

Ew, but if you like that look, there's the LG G Watch R.

 

Moto 360 is classy, elegant, attractive and can look like a mechanical watch to the casual observer.

I'm not insecure about my appearance, if people judge me because I'm not a GQ model then they don't deserve my time. However, a watch like the 360 which looks nice and is higher tech than people are used to will get lots of complements.

 

The moment you used that GIF, you already lost. Because you actually cared and took an effort to quote every single sentence.  :lol:

 

Not even worth coming up with a counter-argument. I'm glad you aren't insecure. I'm glad you like charging more devices. I'm glad you think the Moto 360 is more elegant than a Technomarine or an Omega or even a Wenger (oops! I'll link those later because you've probably never heard of them). I'm also glad you're looking forward to getting a smartwatch so you don't waste an exorbitant amount of time to open your phone and lose your train of thought. Thankfully, most people, myself included, don't suffer that problem. 

[Techteen14]

The moment you used that GIF, you already lost. Because you actually cared and took an effort to quote every single sentence.  :lol:

That's the joke.

 

I'm glad you aren't insecure. I'm glad you think the Moto 360 is more elegant than a Technomarine or an Omega or even a Wenger (oops! I'll link those later because you've probably never heard of them).

I have heard of those, thank you very much. I'd never be so financially unwise as to buy one, though.

Since "elegant" means graceful, and as such is objective, the 360 IS more elegant than the aforementioned blocky, obscenely priced fashion statements. I don't wear a watch because I need to validate my self-worth to my friends, I wear one because I need to tell time. A $10 Timex from Target is functionally the same as a $10,000 Tag. The only reason I'm still not wearing said Timex is because I upgraded to a Suunto. Not high end, but better.

I'm glad you like charging more devices.

I find it funny you accuse people who have a vaild use for a device of being lazy, then complain about how you have to take two seconds out of your day to charge that device. I don't know about you, but I have a phone, which only needs to be charged once every other day, and a tablet, which needs to be charged every 3-4 days. How many more devices does one need?

I'm also glad you're looking forward to getting a smartwatch so you don't waste an exorbitant amount of time to open your phone and lose your train of thought. Thankfully, most people, myself included, don't suffer that problem. 

You effectively loose 10 IQ points for every extra task you perform. If I'm already juggling my usual 20 Chrome tabs and 2 Google Docs, do I really need to be stretched even thinner by something else on my phone?

[Psykomantis00]

It needs an OLED screen for sure.