GTX 880 and 870 to release in November 2014

[Guest]

Original article: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-geforce-gtx-870-and-gtx-880-available-in-november.html

 

Nvidia GeForce GTX 870 and GTX 880 available in November

I can write with pretty good indication that in the November 2014 we will see Nvidia launch their new GeForce GTX 870 and GTX 880 graphics cards. Last week at an Nvidia event a little birdie already whispered in my ears 'we'll see you again soon Hilbert'. More info from an external source however indicates that 28nm Maxwell based GPUs (indeed not 20nm) will be released within roughly three months time.

 

Photo's of an engineering board have already been seen two weeks ago. The GPU would be based on GM204 likely revision A1 initially. The engineering sample shown below shows codename 1421 GPU with a A1 stepping build in 2014 week 21 (19-25 May). The card seems to be holding 2x8 memory chips carrying likely 4 or 8 GB of graphics memory on a 256-bit memory bus. The power connectors are a bit shocking to say at the least, it has one 8-pin and two 6-pin PCIe PEG power headers. Though with engineering samples it not unusual to have extra connectors. The memory ICs from SK Hynix is tagged as H5GQ4H24MFR-R2C, these are 7000 MHz (effective data-rate) chips.

 

So, didn't Linus mention at last weeks WAN-show that Nvidia invited him to an event and that he wasn't allowed (or didn't even know) what it was about? Could this be the reason they invited a few people?

Of course, the blurred engineering sample is old news by now, but I didn't think that we would see an actual release in November this year. Are you disappointed that we will be stuck with 28nm for another generation? And what about the rumored 256bit bus, is it a smart move to go for maximum power efficiency or will it hurt high resolution performance?

[Katsu-K1L]

Let's hope we get huge performance boosts with this....-sigh-

[AlwaysFSX]

If this is true, and they are cheaper and more powerful than the 700 series is. Oh my god.

[legend8887]

I already told everyone this but nobody believes me.

[Brainiac777]

Nvidia and their low memory buses... disappointed.

[mooseducks86]

I can't say for sure, but the way the edges on the first hynix chip in the last pic are distorted looks like a shit doctoring job. Or the robot printing the pcb is an alcoholic and had shaky nozzles. Not to mention the terrible use of clone stamp on the chip.

 

Also, theres no way the PCIe PEGs are on that board, they're on the wrong side, lol.

[mr moose]

Well, they are hardly going to release a product that performs the same or worse than what already exists.  I don't really care what size the die is or whether it is 28nm or smaller, so long as the end unit price is scaled to performance and the flow on effect of last gen card pricing drops proportionately I am happy. 

[Guest]

Nvidia and their low memory buses... disappointed.

 

This was my concern as well. We'll have to see if it's true and how they actually perform, but if they really disregard high res gaming performance for maximum power efficiency and lower costs then I'm not going to upgrade and rather go with AMD and their next generation (whenever that is coming out).

[Qwertious]

Nvidia and their low memory buses... disappointed.

 

 

This was my concern as well. We'll have to see if it's true and how they actually perform, but if they really disregard high res gaming performance for maximum power efficiency and lower costs then I'm not going to upgrade and rather go with AMD and their next generation (whenever that is coming out).

 

Larger GPU cache meaning memory won't be need be accessed in large quantities  

[Guest]

Larger GPU cache meaning memory won't be need be accessed in large quantities  

 

That's what i'm hoping for, as I said we'll have to wait and see how they actually perform.

[alamox]

linus was invited to be shown tegra K1, and the new shield 2 tablet probably.

about the 870/880, i doubt they will have better perf, or even that efficient, the changes wouldn't be that interesting i think, 28nm they can make a little less power hungry and shift that to better clock or something like that.

but i certainly dont expect any noticable jump, unless they increase the size of the chip even more, which is already huge, or just simple rebranding with cheaper cost.

perf jump will come next year, and we are stuck with rebranding, or clock boost this year also on both AMD and Nvidia, even with new architecture tonga and maxwell.

[The Crazed Child]

Larger GPU cache meaning memory won't be need be accessed in large quantities  

I would like to see Linus do a video on how much VRAM a 750 Ti (Maxwell) can access compared to a 650 Ti (Kepler)

[Equlix]

im sure this will just be another paper launch in november and nobody with have cards in hand until january and aftermarket until even later 

[deviant88]

0 improvements,same 28nm, i dont care...

[ACatWithThumbs]

This isn't going to happen.
The memory bandwith would be way to low.
There is no way Nvidia would downgrade the memory bandwith.

 

[Opsilon]

The 28 nm is a bummer, but the 256 bit interface is not that bad because of the way nvidia designed their l2 cache, AMD does not have the l2 cache unified, so in theory yes the bandwidth is better on the AMD's design, but it is more complicated to work with and access every controller the card has, the more controller you have you have more latency. that is why Nvidia can get away with the lower bus design, as long as the performance is there i don't really care, i would love to see a bigger bus on the 880 and 870, i might go for that or maybe skip one more generation to see what's up.

 

Not only that i want to see AMD make a kickass card so nvidia can actually get scared this year, and i really want to see what will the ARM processor do on the nvidia cards, this might actually be interesting again

[Guest]

Essentially echoing @mr moose here with his statement.

 

I'm very tempted to move to an 880 GTX but will wait for performance figures.  If it's not a big deal then I'll wait for the Ti edition.

[ViruZ_HUN]

And what about Cuda cores? None SAYS anything about CUda cores? Where is Cuda cores?

 

Cmon Nvidia! CUDA CORES!

 

Anyways When will the GTX 880 ti be released?

[TheProfosist]

I can't say for sure, but the way the edges on the first hynix chip in the last pic are distorted looks like a shit doctoring job. Or the robot printing the pcb is an alcoholic and had shaky nozzles. Not to mention the terrible use of clone stamp on the chip.

Also, theres no way the PCI PEGs are on that board, they're on the wrong side, lol.

I just imagined that robot lol.

[Askew]

If I see that image again I'm going to track down the person who created it.

[ViruZ_HUN]

Reading this: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-release-date-gtx-880-gtx-870-october-november/

 

Yes WCCF is not te best source but they sometimes are right especially when other sources says the same

 

This is a quote fromt he site: "Now since reports indicate that Nvidia has completely scrapped the GM100 chips, we are looking at second generation Maxwell Architecture."

 

So WCCF means that there will be no Second Gen Maxwell?

[Redheadsrule13]

If it happens: Neat.
If it doesn't: K.

I'm feeling pretty neutral with the 800 series. Gonna wait and see how the final product performs before taking a stance on it.

[Socky]

Let's hope we get huge performance boosts with this....-sigh-

Meh I'd rather go with better power consumption IMO. We need more single slots.

I NEED SINGLE SLOTS. WHERE THE HELL ARE MY SINGLE SLOTS.

[BonBon Scott]

I already told everyone this but nobody believes me.

 

Yes, but you had no confirmation whatsoever, you were purely basing your theory upon rumours and not solid facts.

[azurezeed]

let's see if AMD can win this generation, so that Nvidia comes out of it's comfort zone and make a super card