Windows 9 Preview Expected For End of the Year

[Snickerzz]

I thought Vista was 07 then 7 in 10.

googled them

Vista - January 07

7 - October 22, 2009

[kuddlesworth9419]

Going by Microsofts past OS releases W9 is going to be great. But then again they could fuck it up entirely and we get another w8/8.1 and from their it would just be a downward spiral to where Sega is today. 

[terrytek]

Going by Microsofts past OS releases W9 is going to be great. But then again they could fuck it up entirely and we get another w8/8.1 and from their it would just be a downward spiral to where Sega is today. 

Exactly.

[TopWargamer]

Well, hopefully 'Windows 9' will be good, because that's how the cycle goes: Every other Windows OS is good. Although, Windows 8 really wasn't that bad... All they needed to do was give people the option to choose between the Metro UI and the desktop and there would have been far fewer complaints. Either way, they're doing it now, so whatever.

 

Excited to see what Microsoft is making this time around.

[terrytek]

Maybe Windows should do this. Customers should decide what version they want. They should create a more touch-oriented Windows 9, and then there could be a more desktop-oriented Windows 9. Customers can then choose what version they want. They can make more money that way, and then you have more satisfied customers. But it may come out stupid, who knows.

[GoodBytes]

Well, hopefully 'Windows 9' will be good, because that's how the cycle goes: Every other Windows OS is good. Although, Windows 8 really wasn't that bad... All they needed to do was give people the option to choose between the Metro UI and the desktop and there would have been far fewer complaints. Either way, they're doing it now, so whatever.

 

Excited to see what Microsoft is making this time around.

This cycle doesn't work.

[GamerPatriot]

Of course because I just got Windows 8.1

[GoodBytes]

Of course because I just got Windows 8.1

Every 3 years you have a new Windows, the exception was XP. But stay tune for Windows 9 early special, might be not too bad, if Microsoft offers Windows 9 Pro for 40$. And remember, it is the preview release in end 2015. It will be in Spring 2015 it will be released.. and that is assuming no delay and that the rumors are correct. The worst if buying Windows and the next week the new version of Windows comes out officially.

[qwertywarrior]

meh

[EChondo]

Well, hopefully 'Windows 9' will be good, because that's how the cycle goes: Every other Windows OS is good. Although, Windows 8 really wasn't that bad... All they needed to do was give people the option to choose between the Metro UI and the desktop and there would have been far fewer complaints. Either way, they're doing it now, so whatever.

 

Excited to see what Microsoft is making this time around.

Agreed. Hopefully they'll actually give us options this time around.

 

I know a lot of people won't even touch a Windows 8 machine because it's "Windows 8". I've offered to teach them, but they are so scared or disgusted with the looks and design of the OS.

 

Oh well. I'm using Windows 8 right now and it's going pretty smooth except for a few hiccups. My hard drive issue has disappeared. I haven't even touched Metro except for once when I had to diagnose a display issue.

[Me1z]

This cycle doesn't work.

 

You've said this a few times, yet offer no explanation. How does this cycle not work?

 

Windows 3.1     Good

Windows 95      Bad

Windows 98      Good

Windows ME     Bad

Windows XP      Good

Windows Vista  Bad

Windows 7        Good

Windows 8        Bad

Windows 9         -

[GoodBytes]

You've said this a few times, yet offer no explanation. How does this cycle not work?

 

Windows 3.1     Good

Windows 95      Bad

Windows 98      Good

Windows ME     Bad

Windows XP      Good

Windows Vista  Bad

Windows 7        Good

Windows 8        Bad

Windows 9         -

Vista was good if you had a gaming PC, where it had the video memory needed, pixel shader 2.0, true dual core, and RAM.

But regardless.

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows)

You are missing Windows 1, 2, NT3.x, NT4.x, Windows 2000.

And you forgot that XP was hated deeply. Vista style.

[Me1z]

Vista was good if you had a gaming PC, where it had the video memory needed, pixel shader 2.0, true dual core, and RAM.

But regardless.

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows)

You are missing Windows 1, 2, NT3.x, NT4.x, Windows 2000.

And you forgot that XP was hated deeply. Vista style.

 

Windows NT and 2000 were not mainstream operating systems or intended for home use. They were 'enterprise' operating systems designed for office use. Mobile and server operating systems are excluded for the same reason. XP may have been initially hated, but that hate was greatly subdued over time, unlike Vista which is still hated today. Looking back, I can't think of anything bad about XP, except for the creation of Comic Sans. I stand by the categorizing of Windows XP as a 'good' operating system.

[terrytek]

I never hated Vista, or had any problems with it. I've stuck with it from the beginning.

[TheBLOODYTOXIC]

oh Dear Microsoft

 

Yesterday playing with my HTPC and thinking "oh windows 8.1 looks promising for this enviroment" and guess what? my old AMD Atlhon 64 X2 6000+ 3.5Ghz capable of playing 1080p movies couldnt display proper 1080p (1280x1024ish) due incompatibility with the Microsoft Basic Displaty Adapater... WTF!

 

I hope you build W9 from zero.

[Misanthrope]

Yaaaay.....

[GoodBytes]

Windows NT and 2000 were not mainstream operating systems or intended for home use. They were 'enterprise' operating systems designed for office use. Mobile and server operating systems are excluded for the same reason. XP may have been initially hated, but that hate was greatly subdued over time, unlike Vista which is still hated today. Looking back, I can't think of anything bad about XP, except for the creation of Comic Sans. I stand by the categorizing of Windows XP as a 'good' operating system.

Windows NT and 2000 were running on company computers. Sorry, but you can't brush it aside. Windows 2000 was also available mainstream.

Windows 1, was bad, so by your logic 3.x was not... but it was.

Windows 95 was ground breaking, Windows 98 was full of bugs and issues. People liked it, because they got the adequate system specification to run it, and you had the most non-DOS games, as Windows got more and more popular, but it wasn't a great OS, nor security wise with IE in folders with ActiveX control, which lead to serious security vulnerability.

Also, based on your system, if we ignore Windows 2000, as you choose then Windows Me would end up being good. If not, then XP would be bad, which is correct, but you are saying it is good.

[GoodBytes]

oh Dear Microsoft

 

Yesterday playing with my HTPC and thinking "oh windows 8.1 looks promising for this enviroment" and guess what? my old AMD Atlhon 64 X2 6000+ 3.5Ghz capable of playing 1080p movies couldnt display proper 1080p (1280x1024ish) due incompatibility with the Microsoft Basic Displaty Adapater... WTF!

 

I hope you build W9 from zero.

Windows 8 runs fine on my AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ on Socket 939, with 3GB of RAM DDR1, at full 1920x1200.

Make sure you have a compatible graphic card. You can push in Windows 7 drivers. They work.

[Me1z]

Windows NT and 2000 were running on company computers. Sorry, but you can't brush it aside. Windows 2000 was also available mainstream.

Windows 1, was bad, so by your logic 3.x was not... but it was.

Windows 95 was ground breaking, Windows 98 was full of bugs and issues. People liked it, because they got the adequate system specification to run it, and you had the most non-DOS games, as Windows got more and more popular, but it wasn't a great OS, nor security wise with IE in folders with ActiveX control, which lead to serious security vulnerability.

Also, based on your system, if we ignore Windows 2000, as you choose then Windows Me would end up being good. If not, then XP would be bad, which is correct, but you are saying it is good.

 

"Windows NT and 2000 were running on company computers. Sorry, but you can't brush it aside. Windows 2000 was also available mainstream."

The official successor to Windows 98 was Windows ME. Windows NT running on company computers is the point I'm trying to make, as office use is the intended purpose of the NT line. Regardless of its availability, Windows 2000 was still part of the NT line and designed for commercial and enterprise use in server+client environments just like the rest of them. They are not part of the commonly known Windows lineage.

 

"Windows 1, was bad, so by your logic 3.x was not... but it was."

I never mentioned Windows 1, as the pattern doesn't go back that far and it doesn't need to. All that is required for it to be a cycle is that from point 'X' onwards there is a noticeable repetition. The cycle starts with 3.1x

 

"Windows 95 was ground breaking, Windows 98 was full of bugs and issues. People liked it, because they got the adequate system specification to run it, and you had the most non-DOS games, as Windows got more and more popular, but it wasn't a great OS, nor security wise with IE in folders with ActiveX control, which lead to serious security vulnerability."

98 was more stable, had less bugs, and better support than 95 (for obvious reasons) and that's what people like. It doesn't matter that 95 was ground breaking, it was still bad. Guess what else was/is 'ground breaking'? Windows Vista and Windows 8. Time has shown repeatedly that Innovation ≠ good. Like you said, it may be coincidence that people liked 98 due to the hardware and games available at the time, but XP is in the same boat with the dot-com bubble and the rapid adoption of the internet. Being at the right place at the right time makes all the difference, people never remember specifics, just the overall feel of their experience.

 

"Also, based on your system, if we ignore Windows 2000, as you choose then Windows Me would end up being good. If not, then XP would be bad, which is correct, but you are saying it is good."

You have this idea that it needs to start at the beginning with Windows 1, when it it is not required for there to still be a noticeable pattern.

[Albatross]

Will windows 9 be a free upgrade if you have windows 8.1?

 

Was it free to upgrade from Windows 8 to 8.1? If not, then most likely no. This is Microsoft we're talking about...

[deathjester]

Windows 8 runs fine on my AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ on Socket 939, with 3GB of RAM DDR1, at full 1920x1200.

Make sure you have a compatible graphic card. You can push in Windows 7 drivers. They work.

 

Is that the PC you use to astroturf with most of the time and post 3-4 MS related news stories a week, while defending MS in every thread in this forum (without stating who you work for or represent which is a joke) and being obvious as hell as to what you do for a living?

 

As for Win 9? Hooray. Is DX 12 going to be on it initially? I can't wait until we get DX 12. Devs don't even use DX 11.2 because it is withheld from 7. Can't wait until we get a new API that devs won't use.

 

Oh wait that is all the consumers fault. We didn't realize that Microsoft has the right to tax us 100 dollars every 3 years (per the statements in this thread you made) to game on the PC, and that until we give in and pay this tax, we don't get games on the newest API. Silly us.  

 

Seriously can the forum mod put a MS tag by this guys name? If you are going allow an obvious MS astroturfer to sell and protect a company 24/7 on a forum you should have the company logo on his user name. 

[Misanthrope]

Is that the PC you use to astroturf with most of the time and post 3-4 MS related news stories a week, while defending MS in every thread in this forum (without stating who you work for or represent which is a joke) and being obvious as hell as to what you do for a living?

 

As for Win 9? Hooray. Is DX 12 going to be on it initially? I can't wait until we get DX 12. Devs don't even use DX 11.2 because it is withheld from 7. Can't wait until we get a new API that devs won't use.

 

Oh wait that is all the consumers fault. We didn't realize that Microsoft has the right to tax us 100 dollars every 3 years (per the statements in this thread you made) to game on the PC, and that until we give in and pay this tax, we don't get games on the newest API. Silly us.  

 

Seriously can the forum mod put a MS tag by this guys name? If you are going allow an obvious MS astroturfer to sell and protect a company 24/7 on a forum you should have the company logo on his user name. 

 

I couldn't help but laugh while looking at this and then immediately remember the "trusted advisor" tag under his avatar  :lol:

[Askew]

Is that the PC you use to astroturf with most of the time and post 3-4 MS related news stories a week, while defending MS in every thread in this forum (without stating who you work for or represent which is a joke) and being obvious as hell as to what you do for a living?

 

As for Win 9? Hooray. Is DX 12 going to be on it initially? I can't wait until we get DX 12. Devs don't even use DX 11.2 because it is withheld from 7. Can't wait until we get a new API that devs won't use.

 

Oh wait that is all the consumers fault. We didn't realize that Microsoft has the right to tax us 100 dollars every 3 years (per the statements in this thread you made) to game on the PC, and that until we give in and pay this tax, we don't get games on the newest API. Silly us.  

 

Seriously can the forum mod put a MS tag by this guys name? If you are going allow an obvious MS astroturfer to sell and protect a company 24/7 on a forum you should have the company logo on his user name. 

 

I've thought he works for MS for a long time, I asked him about it once but he assures me he does not. If that's the case I don't understand the appearances in or OP of the largest percentile of MS threads on this forum.

 

I can't prove it, so I just take him with a pinch of salt because a bias is to be expected with him, and the reasons for why are kind of irrelevant after the fact.

[deathjester]

I've thought he works for MS for a long time, I asked him about it once but he assures me he does not. If that's the case I don't understand the appearances in or OP of the largest percentile of MS threads on this forum.

 

I can't prove it, so I just take him with a pinch of salt because a bias is to be expected with him, and the reasons for why are kind of irrelevant after the fact.

 

He doesn't work for MS. He works for an advertising company that is hired by MS.

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=579641

 

This happens on most tech forums with MS and game forums as well. When they are this blatantly obvious though? It gets tiring. Salesmen do not belong on a tech forum, and if they are here they should have a company logo. I have seen coolermaster salesmen on this forum, but they have a tag and that is fine.

 

This is nothing new for MS and this has been company policy for a long time.

 

Comes Vs Microsoft court case where MS documents came out, with the plan to buy out media, reviewers, infiltrate messageboards and manipulate people.  See page 55 under "Mopping up". 

"Ideally use of competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in "he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2. Just keep rubbing it in, via the PRESS, analysts, newsgroups, whatever".

 

http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03096.pdf

 

This is how MS operates. They also will impersonate dead people to "write in" support for Microsoft and they still continue this practice of astroturfing and it is getting ridiculous at this point.

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/aug/23/news/mn-37472 

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2014/01/20/is-microsoft-paying-youtubers-to-promote-xbox-one/

 

http://techrights.org/2011/12/26/microsoft-and-nokia-astroturf/

[Askew]

He doesn't work for MS. He works for an advertising company that is hired by MS.

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=579641

 

This happens on most tech forums with MS and game forums as well. When they are this blatantly obvious though? It gets tiring. Salesmen do not belong on a tech forum, and if they are here they should have a company logo. I have seen coolermaster salesmen on this forum, but they have a tag and that is fine.

 

This is nothing new for MS and this has been company policy for a long time.

 

Comes Vs Microsoft court case where MS documents came out, with the plan to buy out media, reviewers, infiltrate messageboards and manipulate people.  See page 55 under "Mopping up". 

"Ideally use of competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in "he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2. Just keep rubbing it in, via the PRESS, analysts, newsgroups, whatever".

 

http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03096.pdf

 

This is how MS operates. They also will impersonate dead people to "write in" support for Microsoft and they still continue this practice of astroturfing and it is getting ridiculous at this point.

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/aug/23/news/mn-37472 

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2014/01/20/is-microsoft-paying-youtubers-to-promote-xbox-one/

 

http://techrights.org/2011/12/26/microsoft-and-nokia-astroturf/

 

Interesting, I always assumed that 'astroturfing' was actually directly carried out by the company (hiring people to do it) rather than contracted out.

 

Of those things you have just shown me, I was aware of the youtuber Xbone promotions because youtuber Boogie2988 basically turned down their offer and decided to tell everyone about it by making a video (props to him for that).

 

To be honest nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to corporations and the behaviours exhibited to further interest, I have read into the operations of Monsanto for example.

 

 

My obvious question is, if indeed it is as you say and he is a Microsoft astroturfer, why do you think that he is allowed to continue about his business on this forum when other affiliates are tagged appropriately? That's kind of important.