Madison reveals experiences working at LMG

[iAxX]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Canadian company against a Canadian citizen. They can ask for gag orders. We'll never hear anything.

She's American.

[Levent]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Canadian company against a Canadian citizen. They can ask for gag orders. We'll never hear anything.

I believe Madison is a US citizen.,

[Bananasplit_00]

13 minutes ago, iAxX said:

WHAT THE FUCK!

 

This forum has higher standards than their workplace 

 

This forum is pretty disconnected from LMG, sure they own it but they don't actively control the mods or community much and never have. It's a very organically grown community which is why many of the more active or senior members are some of LTTs harshest critics.

[mrparker]

1 minute ago, SuNe^ said:

Pretty sure Ivan and Linus are still friends, Linus talks about him on the WAN show now and then hanging out etc, and Ivan donated his GPU collection for Charity auction while back long after he left LMG, dident he?

Again, this could potentially harm people who weren't involved.

 

I don't think that's a good use of time when LMG seems to be the primary issue right now. Also Madison not naming names could be because she doesn't want to stir the pot like this.

 

I don't have any indication of this so this is purely speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if she is witholding names as to not mess up a legal proceeding. Maybe she has been reporting this to the authorities. I hope she is.

[Taf the Ghost]

Just now, mbacc said:

Unfortunate, but I am 100% with you on this one. I really hope she was aware and is prepared for (international?) lawsuit that may span out for the next few years.

 

Someone needs to tell he in Twitter that she needs to start talking to a lawyer, now. Maybe also a well-known press (not a legal advice).

She's a Canadian citizen. I thought she was American, but her family has just been in AZ for a while.  Though not sure where she's currently located.

 

There's proper ways to handle things, even if you've had a horrible experience/illegal actions happen somewhere. Late night (maybe a few drinks in?) Twitter threads are absolutely not it.

[AnonCoder]

Grabbed multiple times... I'm at a loss for words. This is upsetting.

 

 

[CantHelpMyself]

1 minute ago, Levent said:

I believe Madison is a US citizen.,

I thought she referenced giving up her US visa to move to BC to work for LMG?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[digitalscream]

Here's the thing - if only a couple of things she said in that thread were true, then it makes Linus' representation of LMG's working environment disingenuous at best.

 

As for the "Why didn't she pipe up sooner/sue them at the time?" comments...anybody who's ever worked with harassment/bullying victims could tell you exactly why. I'm not making a judgement on whether what she says is true or not, but that's exactly the kind of comment made from a perspective of (fortunate) ignorance and inexperience. You should count yourselves lucky to have never had to deal with something like that, because - no matter how mentally resilient you are - it takes a toll that you're not capable of imagining until you've been there or tried to help someone deal with it. Worse is the fact that there can't be any proof, because the only available evidence is eyewitness testimony, which relies on those witnesses not also being concerned about their continued employment...and in the kind of environment described, that concern is 100% correct.

 

Oh, and...yes, there were "many" #MeToo allegations shown to be false, but not "most". That's an important distinction.

[Blackraven1]

Fucking hell. And I thought that it couldn't get any worse after what happened with Billit Labs. I don't see how LMG can possibly recover from this at this point

[JoshuaScholar]

Parting shot.

 

Now we know why Linus decided to hire someone to be management!

[kalleth]

Just now, digitalscream said:

Here's the thing - if only a couple of things she said in that thread were true, then it makes Linus' representation of LMG's working environment disingenuous at best.

 

As for the "Why didn't she pipe up sooner/sue them at the time?" comments...anybody who's ever worked with harassment/bullying victims could tell you exactly why. I'm not making a judgement on whether what she says is true or not, but that's exactly the kind of comment made from a perspective of (fortunate) ignorance and inexperience. You should count yourselves lucky to have never had to deal with something like that, because - no matter how mentally resilient you are - it takes a toll that you're not capable of imagining until you've been there or tried to help someone deal with it. Worse is the fact that there can't be any proof, because the only available evidence is eyewitness testimony, which relies on those witnesses not also being concerned about their continued employment...and in the kind of environment described, that concern is 100% correct.

 

Oh, and...yes, there were "many" #MeToo allegations shown to be false, but not "most". That's an important distinction.

Yeah. This is horrible to read, and it rings all too true if you've ever worked in tech or other predominantly young, male workplaces.

 

This is the reason I've cancelled my FP sub; I was going to see what they said on the accuracy and other stuff, but I won't give money to a company that treats its employees like this. Especially female ones.

[deadaccount69]

9 minutes ago, Texbobcat said:

It wasn't the "i gotta have it" it's the fact that his community abused the guy for many years, made it impossible to upload without getting hate raided and linus never said a single thing about it to attempt to end the hate raid.

Well that’s just not true. He did put out a statement just a few days later

 

That said, fuck the immature community for brigading the guy for doing nothing wrong. Even the comments on the ncix auction initial video were simping for Linus even though in that very video he clearly was fine with giving the button to the guy. In fact, he offered to call off the deal. 
 

 

 

[Drazil100]

4 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

She's a Canadian citizen. I thought she was American, but her family has just been in AZ for a while.  Though not sure where she's currently located.

 

There's proper ways to handle things, even if you've had a horrible experience/illegal actions happen somewhere. Late night (maybe a few drinks in?) Twitter threads are absolutely not it.

Assuming it's true I don't think she is trying to "handle" things or even necessarily do damage to LMG. I think she just needed to vent about something she has been forced to bottle up. This seems more about mental health than about trying to make LMG pay.

[CantHelpMyself]

1 minute ago, Blackraven1 said:

Fucking hell. And I thought that it couldn't get any worse after what happened with Billit Labs. I don't see how LMG can possible recover from this at this point

Deletes the forum, buys twitter, deletes that. then reddit, etc.

[baK1]

9 minutes ago, Legitsu said:

and this is exactly why I don't trust anybody that 'comes foward' after X years

 a few bad apples have completely ruined the entire orchard and the entire thing is now a write off 

i can see where you're coming from. but at the same time, you can't blame her for 'waiting for the right time' to open up. example: that whole mick gordon doom eternal thing. opening up in the right time is definitely the right thing to do in most cases, if you dont want the entire thing to be forgotten in a week or two.

 

if she's really the victim, she wouldn't want that happen, would she

[Im_a_Rhinoceros]

2 minutes ago, AnonCoder said:

Grabbed multiple times... I'm at a loss for words. This is upsetting.

 

 

This is actionable in both criminal and civil courts. She’s free to pursue it. Criminal court wouldn’t even cost her anything. Otherwise, it’s just a former employee tweeting away. 

[gonace]

1 minute ago, Legitsu said:

No you have made up your mind and resorted on ad`hominim callouts because you don't like that somebody DARE to question the validity of a accusation that can cause real harm on twitter

 

cool story bro becaused obviously love linus like the dad I never had /s 

 

Opposite to you I haven't, I don't know what is true or not and I aint going to claim that one part or the other is truthful or not and I'm not going to come to unfounded conclusions from a series of tweets like you have.

 

Cheers!

[IndustrialBananaBread]

1 minute ago, Blackraven1 said:

Fucking hell. And I thought that it couldn't get any worse after what happened with Billit Labs. I don't see how LMG can possible recover from this at this point

Realistically they'll probably try weathering it out and hopefully tell linus to STFU from now on

[xg32]

11 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Since she's still going, I hate to be the person to say it: she really needs to stop, take down the thread and get legal counsel. Because she's basically put LMG into a situation they'll have to sue her. She's making declarative statements about violations under BC law, after Linus' response to the Glassdoor post was "if there's an issue, they need to go to the proper authorities", which she clearly hasn't.

 

She has an axe to grind (clearly) about the time there, but late night Tweeting isn't the place for it. This is how you ruin your career.

It's probably already too late, shes going into little details that doesn't even matter anymore, the big allegations are either hearsay or hard to prove, you are right in that LMG HAS TO sue.

[iAxX]

1 minute ago, JoshuaScholar said:

Parting shot.

 

Now we know why Linus decided to hire someone to be management!

Might be too late for that. 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the CEO just quit. 

 

• Conflicts of interest with ASUS/Noctua
• Linus lying about his interactions with Billet
• Linus being completely tone deaf in his response and turning the YT tech community against him
• The labs team apparently being incompetent and losing all credibility
• Ignored workplace sexual harassment and bullying

And it's only Wednesday. 

 

[Silviecat44]

1 hour ago, Danman2026 said:

Timing is perfect. This is the only time she is safe to come forward. Otherwise the backlash from d**ck riders like you would have been even more insane 

I hope more will come forward now too

[e22big]

2 minutes ago, digitalscream said:

Here's the thing - if only a couple of things she said in that thread were true, then it makes Linus' representation of LMG's working environment disingenuous at best.

 

As for the "Why didn't she pipe up sooner/sue them at the time?" comments...anybody who's ever worked with harassment/bullying victims could tell you exactly why. I'm not making a judgement on whether what she says is true or not, but that's exactly the kind of comment made from a perspective of (fortunate) ignorance and inexperience. You should count yourselves lucky to have never had to deal with something like that, because - no matter how mentally resilient you are - it takes a toll that you're not capable of imagining until you've been there or tried to help someone deal with it. Worse is the fact that there can't be any proof, because the only available evidence is eyewitness testimony, which relies on those witnesses not also being concerned about their continued employment...and in the kind of environment described, that concern is 100% correct.

 

Oh, and...yes, there were "many" #MeToo allegations shown to be false, but not "most". That's an important distinction.

More like the couple of specific things for me

 

Demanding work at LMG isn't a secret, they had been pretty open about it for a while and it's not like working anywhere else isn't. 

 

Sexual harassment and industry threat though... those are actually HUGE. Like literally criminally so, if true.

[mrparker]

2 minutes ago, CantHelpMyself said:

I thought she referenced giving up her US visa to move to BC to work for LMG?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

That was the most messed up part of the thread - especially since if I understand correctly, her family is in AZ (she mentioned she was from Calgary and moved to Phoenix, AZ with her family in the ASUS ROG Reboot video) - and giving up her visa meant she was separated from her family.

[AHPanda]

Meanwhile...

It's a massive thread and very much worth your time to read. Explains Linus, LMG and it's work ethics perfectly.

[JoshuaScholar]

1 minute ago, iAxX said:

Might be too late for that. 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the CEO just quit. 

 

• Conflicts of interest with ASUS/Noctua
• Linus lying about his interactions with Billet
• Linus being completely tone deaf in his response and turning the YT tech community against him
• The labs team apparently being incompetent and losing all credibility
• Ignored workplace sexual harassment and bullying

And it's only Wednesday. 

 

Having such a bad day, it feels like America!

Seriously, I grew up in Canada but I only have an American citizenship (my family made a HUGE mistake).

If I could flee the US back to Canada, I certainly would!