Posted May 12, 2014 As of today AMD's adaptive refresh rate technology "FreeSync" very much akin to Nvidia's G-Sync has been officially ratified as a VESA standard in Displayport 1.2a and is now officially known as Adaptive-Sync. Adaptive-Sync has been a part of VESA’s embedded DisplayPort, eDP, spec since 2009 and as a result, a lot of adaptive-sync technology is already incorporated into a lot of the components for displays that rely on eDP for internal signaling. Implementation of DisplayPort How Adaptive-Sync can work to reduce power consumption and improve content presentation. Furthermore the Adaptive-Sync technology will be offered to all panel makers free of charge. This is quite different from G-Sync which requires the panel maker to pay Nvidia a licensing fee. Adaptive-Sync technology is offered to VESA members free without any license fee, which means we will likely see big monitor manufacturers like Dell and Samsung adopting this standard fairly quickly. Sourcehttp://www.brightsideofnews.com/2014/05/12/vesa-adds-adaptive-sync-displayport-1-2-standard/ Update : AMD has just released a Q&A about Adaptive-Sync and how it relates to FreeSync.Q: When can I buy a monitor compatible with Project FreeSync? A: AMD has undertaken every necessary effort to enable Project FreeSync in the display ecosystem. Monitor vendors are now integrating the DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync specification and productizing compatible displays. AMD is working closely with these vendors to bring products to market, and we expect compatible monitors within 6-12 months. Q: What are the requirements to use FreeSync? A: To take advantage of the benefits of Project FreeSync, users will require: a monitor compatible with DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync, a compatible AMD Radeon GPU with a DisplayPort connection, and a compatible AMD Catalyst graphics driver. AMD plans to release a compatible graphics driver to coincide with the introduction of the first DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync monitors. Q: What AMD Radeon GPUs are compatible with Project FreeSync? A: The first discrete GPUs compatible with Project FreeSync are the AMD Radeon R9 290X, R9 290, R7 260X and R7 260 graphics cards. Project FreeSync is also compatible with AMD APUs codenamed “Kabini,” “Temash,” “Beema,” and “Mullins.” All compatible products must be connected via DisplayPort to a display that supports DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync. Q: How is Project Freesync different from NVIDIA G-Sync? A: While both technologies have similar benefits, G-Sync uses expensive and proprietary hardware. In contrast, Project FreeSync utilizes the industry-standard DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync specification to promote wider adoption, lower cost of ownership, and a broad ecosystem of compatibility. You can read the full Q&A here which includes more questions and answers. My build : Glamor Shot. Intel & AMD, Architectural Discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 imagine the marketing for it, check out the "AS" on my monitor, daayyyumm. cpu: intel i5 4670k @ 4.5ghz Ram: G skill ares 2x4gb 2166mhz cl10 Gpu: GTX 680 liquid cooled cpu cooler: Raijintek ereboss Mobo: gigabyte z87x ud5h psu: cm gx650 bronze Case: Zalman Z9 plus Listen if you care. Cpu: intel i7 4770k @ 4.2ghz Ram: G skill ripjaws 2x4gb Gpu: nvidia gtx 970 cpu cooler: akasa venom voodoo Mobo: G1.Sniper Z6 Psu: XFX proseries 650w Case: Zalman H1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO If your grave doesn't say "rest in peace" on it You are automatically drafted into the skeleton war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 HHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------I HAZ SHINY---------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 So...would this make GSync basically useless? CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2 Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5 RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980 PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73 Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red OG Gaming Rig - Gone Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970 PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 So...would this make GSync basically useless? Looks like it. "If you do not take your failures seriously you will continue to fail" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 Hip, Hip, HOOOOOOOORRRRRAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!! :lol: i may be a little too enthusiastic about this :rolleyes: still, competition is good. PCs Spoiler Spoiler Branwen (2015 build) - CPU: i7 4790K GPU:EVGA GTX 1070 SC PSU: XFX XTR 650W RAM: 16GB Kingston HyperX fury Motherboard: MSI Z87 MPower MAX AC SSD: Crucial MX100 256GB + Crucial MX300 1TB Case: Silverstone RV05 Cooler: Corsair H80i V2 Displays: AOC AGON AG241QG & BenQ BL2420PT Build log: link Spoiler Netrunner (2020 build) - CPU: AMD R7 3700X GPU: EVGA GTX 1070 (from 2015 build) PSU: Corsair SF600 platinum RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix RGB 3600Mhz cl16 Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus X570i pro wifi SSD: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1TB Case: Lian Li TU150W black Cooler: Be Quiet! Dark Rock Slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 So...would this make GSync basically useless? It's not entirely the same as GSync, although I don't quite know the techinical details. "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." Main rig: i7-4790 - 24GB RAM - GTX 970 - Samsung 840 240GB Evo - 2x 2TB Seagate. - 4 monitors - G710+ - G600 - Zalman Z9U3 Other devices Oneplus One 64GB Sandstone Surface Pro 3 - i7 - 256Gb Surface RT Server: SuperMicro something - Xeon e3 1220 V2 - 12GB RAM - 16TB of Seagates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 I am tempted to buy a G-Sync Kit and outfit it to my monitor so I can sell it in the future as a collector's item. "If you do not take your failures seriously you will continue to fail" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 yay!!!!!! Planned Rig: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/AlpenDrake/saved/N2prxr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 It's not entirely the same as GSync, although I don't quite know the techinical details. No it literally is the same as G-Sync. They both synchronize the refresh rate of the monitor to that of the amount of frames being rendered in real time. Nvidia has just been the sacrificial lamb to make it happen. "If you do not take your failures seriously you will continue to fail" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 Name sounds kinda close to 'Adaptive Vsync'. I'm a little disappointed they didn't stick with such an epic troll-y name, though It will be interesting to see how well these work compared to Nvidia's solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 hell YES!!!! you'll still need to buy a new monitor tho, but atleast it can be any monitor with a DP 1.2a input ITX Monster: CPU: I5 4690K GPU: MSI 970 4G Mobo: Asus Formula VI Impact RAM: Kingston 8 GB 1600MHz PSU: Corsair RM 650 SSD: Crucial MX100 512 GB HDD: laptop drive 1TB Keyboard: logitech G710+ Mouse: Steelseries Rival Monitor: LG IPS 23" Case: Corsair 250D Cooling: H100i Mobile: Phone: Broken HTC One (M7) Totaly Broken OnePlus ONE Samsung S6 32GB :wub: Tablet: Google Nexus 7 2013 edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 No it literally is the same as G-Sync. They both synchronize the refresh rate of the monitor to that of the amount of frames being rendered in real time. Nvidia has just been the sacrificial lamb to make it happen. No, it is not literally the same. With G-sync the monitor's refresh rate synchronizes with the GPU and with freesync the GPU's frame rate synchronizes with the monitor. Quote Ignis (Primary rig) CPU i7-4770K Displays Dell U2312HM + 2x Asus VH236H MB ASRock Z87M Extreme4 Keyboard Rosewill K85 RGB BR RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X 16GB Mouse Razer DeathAdder GPU XFX RX 5700XT Headset V-Moda Crossfade LP2 PSU Lepa G1600 Case Corsair 350D Cooling Corsair H90 Storage PNY CS900 120GB (OS) + WD Blue 1TB Quote Server 01Alpha Server 01Beta Chaos Box (Loaner Rig) Router (pfSense) CPU Xeon X5650 CPU 2x Xeon E5520 CPU Xeon E3-1240V2 CPU Xeon E3-1246V3 MB Asus P6T WS Pro MB EVGA SR-2 MB ASRock H61MV-ITX MB ASRock H81 Pro BTC RAM Kingston unbuffered ECC 24GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB RAM Random Ebay RAM 12GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB GPU XFX R5 220 GPU EVGA GTX 580 SC GPU Gigabyte R9 295x2 GPU integrated PSU Corsair CX430M PSU Corsair AX1200 PSU Corsair GS700 PSU Antec EA-380D Case Norco RPC-450B 4U Case Rosewill RSV-L4000C Case Modified Bitfenix Prodigy Case Norco RPC-250 2U Cooling Noctua NH-U9S Cooling 2x CM Hyper 212 Evo Cooling EVGA CLC 120mm Cooling stock Storage PNY CS900 120GB (OS) Storage null Storage PNY CS900 120GB (OS) Storage Fujitsu 150GB HDD 8x WD Red 1TB in Raid 6 WD Black 1TB WD Green 2TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 I remember how Linus criticized AMD for FreeSync when it was first announced and only citing Nvidia's response which was a bullcrap "we're the only company that has a scalar that can do this" which as we know was a complete lie. Dynamic refresh rate has existed since 2009 in embedded display port as a firmware feature. A scalar was never needed as is evident today with this announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 So...would this make GSync basically useless? Let's wait and see, ("me" nVidia fan , i don't think so) Crust : Intel Core i5 4690K @ 4.4Ghz 1.45v | Motherboard : MSI Z97 MPower | Fruity Filling : MSI GTX 960 Armor 2Way-SLI | Cooling : Noctua NH-D15 | RAM : 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz | Storage : 2xSamsung 840 EVO 500GB SSDs Raid-0 | Power Supply : Seasonic X-Series 1250W 80+Gold | Monitor : Dell U2713HM 27" 60Hz 1440p | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 No, it is not literally the same. With G-sync the monitor's refresh rate synchronizes with the GPU and with freesync the GPU's frame rate synchronizes with the monitor. Three drunk guys in a bar, Guy1 : I walk by moving my right foot then my left foot that's how I make progress. (AMD) Guy2 : No that totally doesn't work, if you want to make progress you have to move your left foot and then your right foot and that's how you make real progress ! (Nvidia) Guy3 : I'm so drunk I can't even walk. (Intel) CPU : i5 3570K @ 4.5Ghz. GPU : MSI Lightning GTX 770 @ 1300mhz. 16GB 1600mhz RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 What I find really funny is that consoles will be stuck without this tech for 10 years. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") GTX 1070 5820K 500GB Samsung EVO SSD 1TB WD Green 16GB of RAM Corsair 540 Air Black EVGA Supernova 750W Gold Logitech G502 Fiio E10 Wharfedale Diamond 220 Yamaha A-S501 Lian Li Fan Controller NHD-15 KBTalking Keyboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 let's see if it can keep up with the Champ, "G-Sync" Crust : Intel Core i5 4690K @ 4.4Ghz 1.45v | Motherboard : MSI Z97 MPower | Fruity Filling : MSI GTX 960 Armor 2Way-SLI | Cooling : Noctua NH-D15 | RAM : 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz | Storage : 2xSamsung 840 EVO 500GB SSDs Raid-0 | Power Supply : Seasonic X-Series 1250W 80+Gold | Monitor : Dell U2713HM 27" 60Hz 1440p | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 What I find really funny is that consoles will be stuck without this tech for 10 years. Unless it gets adopted into TV's, in which case much much sooner.. CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2 Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5 RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980 PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73 Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red OG Gaming Rig - Gone Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970 PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 No, it is not literally the same. With G-sync the monitor's refresh rate synchronizes with the GPU and with freesync the GPU's frame rate synchronizes with the monitor. No you are talking about V-Sync. V-Sync forces the GPU to output only the amount of frames that is in sync with the monitor. G and Freesync are actual additions to the monitor that allow them both to dynamically change refresh rates. "If you do not take your failures seriously you will continue to fail" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 Three drunk guys in a bar, Guy1 : I walk by moving my right foot then my left foot that's how I make progress. (AMD) Guy2 : No that totally doesn't work, if you want to make progress you have to move your left foot and then your right foot and that's how you make real progress ! (Nvidia) Guy3 : I'm so drunk I can't even walk. (Intel) I see the point your making, the end result is similar, but its like comparing rear wheel drive to front wheel drive. Both make the car move, but they are completely different completely and change the way the car feels when you drive it. Quote Ignis (Primary rig) CPU i7-4770K Displays Dell U2312HM + 2x Asus VH236H MB ASRock Z87M Extreme4 Keyboard Rosewill K85 RGB BR RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X 16GB Mouse Razer DeathAdder GPU XFX RX 5700XT Headset V-Moda Crossfade LP2 PSU Lepa G1600 Case Corsair 350D Cooling Corsair H90 Storage PNY CS900 120GB (OS) + WD Blue 1TB Quote Server 01Alpha Server 01Beta Chaos Box (Loaner Rig) Router (pfSense) CPU Xeon X5650 CPU 2x Xeon E5520 CPU Xeon E3-1240V2 CPU Xeon E3-1246V3 MB Asus P6T WS Pro MB EVGA SR-2 MB ASRock H61MV-ITX MB ASRock H81 Pro BTC RAM Kingston unbuffered ECC 24GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB RAM Random Ebay RAM 12GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB GPU XFX R5 220 GPU EVGA GTX 580 SC GPU Gigabyte R9 295x2 GPU integrated PSU Corsair CX430M PSU Corsair AX1200 PSU Corsair GS700 PSU Antec EA-380D Case Norco RPC-450B 4U Case Rosewill RSV-L4000C Case Modified Bitfenix Prodigy Case Norco RPC-250 2U Cooling Noctua NH-U9S Cooling 2x CM Hyper 212 Evo Cooling EVGA CLC 120mm Cooling stock Storage PNY CS900 120GB (OS) Storage null Storage PNY CS900 120GB (OS) Storage Fujitsu 150GB HDD 8x WD Red 1TB in Raid 6 WD Black 1TB WD Green 2TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 I see the point your making, the end result is similar, but its like comparing rear wheel drive to front wheel drive. Both make the car move, but they are completely different completely and change the way the car feels when you drive it. AMD is like an all wheel drive car. Whichever wheel has the most traction they will make use of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 No, it is not literally the same. With G-sync the monitor's refresh rate synchronizes with the GPU and with freesync the GPU's frame rate synchronizes with the monitor. ehh u just gave the definition of Vsync ... freesync = Gsync If your grave doesn't say "rest in peace" on it You are automatically drafted into the skeleton war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2014 Yarrrrr, Lets see these new monitors coming =) and thank you amd. Good of Nvidia to be the firestarter for once (even if theirs is an expensive solution) Yarrrr, ye be warned lily-livered scallywags https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMJpHihykI#t=93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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