Posted October 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, aShqrk said: SAM is just the AMD branding of resizable bar, as long as your GPU supports it, then yes it will. Not an expert, just bored at work. Please quote me or mention me if you would like me to see your reply. **may edit my posts a few times after posting** CPU: Intel i5-12400 GPU: Asus TUF RX 6800 XT OC Mobo: Asus Prime B660M-A D4 WIFI MSI PRO B760M-A WIFI DDR4 RAM: Team Delta TUF Alliance 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16 SSD: Team MP33 1TB PSU: MSI MPG A850GF Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360A Cooler: ID-Cooling SE-234 ARGB OS: Windows 11 Pro Pcpartpicker: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wnxDfv Displays: Samsung Odyssey G5 S32AG50 32" 1440p 165hz | AOC 27G2E 27" 1080p 144hz Laptop: ROG Strix Scar III G531GU Intel i5-9300H GTX 1660Ti Mobile| OS: Windows 10 Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, aShqrk said: 13600k and https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-z790-a-wifi/p/N82E16813119601 Pretty pricey, you plan on ddr5? Get a cheaper board atleast unless you need the dual type c Get 5600 bin regardless of cl if you plan on ddr5, itll provide limited futureproofing being able to oc ~6600-7000 so you can carry it to the next platform and when the time comes to upgrade after that there will be much better ddr5. For 75$ that dont sound too bad but this route is irrelevant garbage if you are not willing to ram overclock and you are better off with ddr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author 2 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said: Pretty pricey, you plan on ddr5? Get a cheaper board atleast unless you need the dual type c Get 5600 bin regardless of cl if you plan on ddr5, itll provide limited futureproofing being able to oc ~6600-7000 so you can carry it to the next platform and when the time comes to upgrade after that there will be much better ddr5. For 75$ that dont sound too bad but this route is irrelevant garbage if you are not willing to ram overclock and you are better off with ddr4 Doing 7200 with xmp and I thought it was a good motherboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author 3 hours ago, Dukesilver27- said: SAM is just the AMD branding of resizable bar, as long as your GPU supports it, then yes it will. So I could use resizable bar on an amd gpu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, aShqrk said: Doing 7200 with xmp and I thought it was a good motherboard Now thats just idiotic to buy that kind of ram and just run xmp, its like buying 4800 ddr4 and running it at stock, performance is gonna be meh due to bad subtimings though ddr5 is already running in gear 2 unlike ddr4 where its too slow to benifit from gear 2 (5200+ is where youd see benifits going gear2 on ddr4) Ram performance isnt a big deal at all just the freq that your platform requires to run ideally. 5600 regardless of cas is reccomended as youll have a limited degree of futureproofing by ability to oc to ~6600-7000 so you can use on your next platform and when you wanna upgrade again youll have far better ddr5 options by then rather than buying a fast ram now only for it to get annihilated in a couple years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Smart Access Memory IS Resizable Bar. My RX 6800 XT. Not an expert, just bored at work. Please quote me or mention me if you would like me to see your reply. **may edit my posts a few times after posting** CPU: Intel i5-12400 GPU: Asus TUF RX 6800 XT OC Mobo: Asus Prime B660M-A D4 WIFI MSI PRO B760M-A WIFI DDR4 RAM: Team Delta TUF Alliance 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16 SSD: Team MP33 1TB PSU: MSI MPG A850GF Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360A Cooler: ID-Cooling SE-234 ARGB OS: Windows 11 Pro Pcpartpicker: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wnxDfv Displays: Samsung Odyssey G5 S32AG50 32" 1440p 165hz | AOC 27G2E 27" 1080p 144hz Laptop: ROG Strix Scar III G531GU Intel i5-9300H GTX 1660Ti Mobile| OS: Windows 10 Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 IMO just wait & see how's RDNA3 performance gonna be PCIe4 is nice to have but PCIe3 is still sufficient even for 4090 on 4k see here z790 is just z690 with more PCIe lanes z790 will cost more, but it depends how many m.2 nvme u planning to have ddr4 is still on par for gaming, ddr5 on application it depends on your usage see here Ryzen 5700x + EK Supremacy D-RGB | 2x8 GB DDR4 Klevv 3200 MT/s | MSI B550M Mortar | Palit 3070 GamingPro LHR + Bykski N-PT3070PRO-X | Corsair RM750 | Alphacool EPDM + QDC | Aquacomputer Quadro + HighFlow2 | EK D5 XTOP | Freezemod 360 30mm rad + Barrow Dabel-20b 360 20mm | Barrow & Freezemod fittings | Corsair 5000D Airflow Audio: beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro X + iFi ZEN Air DAC + Razer Seiren Mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author 7 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said: Now thats just idiotic to buy that kind of ram and just run xmp, its like buying 4800 ddr4 and running it at stock, performance is gonna be meh due to bad subtimings though ddr5 is already running in gear 2 unlike ddr4 where its too slow to benifit from gear 2 (5200+ is where youd see benifits going gear2 on ddr4) Ram performance isnt a big deal at all just the freq that your platform requires to run ideally. 5600 regardless of cas is reccomended as youll have a limited degree of futureproofing by ability to oc to ~6600-7000 so you can use on your next platform and when you wanna upgrade again youll have far better ddr5 options by then rather than buying a fast ram now only for it to get annihilated in a couple years Yeah but the last time I tried to oc my ram I got blue screened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author Is 7200 Mts of ram when xmp is enabled to fast ram for a 13600k and 6950 xt oc version link to motherboard if necessary: https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-z790-a-wifi/p/N82E16813119601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 That speed is supported on the M/B so it will work. CPU: Ryzen 5900x | GPU: RTX 3090 FE | MB: MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon | RAM: 32gb Ballistix | PSU: Corsair RM750 | Cooler: Sythe Fuma 2 | Case: Phanteks P600s | Storage: 2TB WD Black SN 750 & 1TB Sabrent Rocket | OS: Windows 11 Pro & Linux Mint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author 13 minutes ago, solado said: That speed is supported on the M/B so it will work. Even on this ram: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb/p/N82E16820374436?item=N82E16820374436 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, aShqrk said: Yeah but the last time I tried to oc my ram I got blue screened Maybe if you bothered to do some real research Heres 1520 ddr2 mostly stable, speed is ~80% of the ddr2 wr and its in a cursed 1x3 config so this is a particularly painful oc to stabilize All you need is the ic type which you can see by checking thaiphoon burner then search up oc profiles for that ic and its behaviour when ocing and there you go. If you arent willimg to overclock the limited futureproof ability of oced ddr5 then it is of no value and you are better off getting a cheap 32gb ddr4 kit instead at like 75$ rather than wasting an extra 75$ on crap that wont even provide a noticable performance boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author This ram says it is 7200 Mts is it when it is oced or when it is not oced and does this have XMP the ram: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb/p/N82E16820374436?item=N82E16820374436 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, aShqrk said: This ram says it is 7200 Mts is it when it is oced or when it is not oced and does this have XMP the ram: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb/p/N82E16820374436?item=N82E16820374436 It's when OC'd/XMP profile selected. Usually RAM operates at the minimum for that version, eg DDR5 in this case. IIRC it's so that you don't get problems when trying to boot, so for example if you were to wet this at 7200, but either your mobo doesn't support it or it needs fine tuning to be stable, then it can revert to the min spec and will work. It's using XMP 3.0 Please quote my post, or put @paddy-stone if you want me to respond to you. Spoiler PCs:- Main PC build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2K6Q7X ASUS x53e - i7 2670QM / Sony BD writer x8 / Win 10, Elemetary OS, Ubuntu/ Samsung 830 SSD Lenovo G50 - 8Gb RAM - Samsung 860 Evo 250GB SSD - DVD writer Displays:- Philips 55 OLED 754 model Panasonic 55" 4k TV LG 29" Ultrawide Philips 24" 1080p monitor as backup Storage/NAS/Servers:- ESXI/test build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4wyR9G Main Server https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3Qftyk Backup server - HP Proliant Gen 8 4 bay NAS running FreeNAS ZFS striped 3x3TiB WD reds HP ProLiant G6 Server SE316M1 Twin Hex Core Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz 48GB RAM Gaming/Tablets etc:- Xbox One S 500GB + 2TB HDD PS4 Nvidia Shield TV Xiaomi/Pocafone F2 pro 8GB/256GB Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Unused Hardware currently :- 4670K MSI mobo 16GB ram i7 6700K b250 mobo Zotac GTX 1060 6GB Amp! edition Zotac GTX 1050 mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author 9 minutes ago, paddy-stone said: It's when OC'd/XMP profile selected. Usually RAM operates at the minimum for that version, eg DDR5 in this case. IIRC it's so that you don't get problems when trying to boot, so for example if you were to wet this at 7200, but either your mobo doesn't support it or it needs fine tuning to be stable, then it can revert to the min spec and will work. It's using XMP 3.0 Well what ram of ddr5 would u recommend for 13600k 6950 xt oc and this motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-z790-a-wifi/p/N82E16813119601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, aShqrk said: Well what ram of ddr5 would u recommend for 13600k 6950 xt oc and this motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-z790-a-wifi/p/N82E16813119601 The one you chose is fine, just select 7000 under the XMP profile/frequency as that board can only go up to 7000 according to the newegg link. [edit] You can view more about the mobo via this Link Please quote my post, or put @paddy-stone if you want me to respond to you. Spoiler PCs:- Main PC build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2K6Q7X ASUS x53e - i7 2670QM / Sony BD writer x8 / Win 10, Elemetary OS, Ubuntu/ Samsung 830 SSD Lenovo G50 - 8Gb RAM - Samsung 860 Evo 250GB SSD - DVD writer Displays:- Philips 55 OLED 754 model Panasonic 55" 4k TV LG 29" Ultrawide Philips 24" 1080p monitor as backup Storage/NAS/Servers:- ESXI/test build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4wyR9G Main Server https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3Qftyk Backup server - HP Proliant Gen 8 4 bay NAS running FreeNAS ZFS striped 3x3TiB WD reds HP ProLiant G6 Server SE316M1 Twin Hex Core Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz 48GB RAM Gaming/Tablets etc:- Xbox One S 500GB + 2TB HDD PS4 Nvidia Shield TV Xiaomi/Pocafone F2 pro 8GB/256GB Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Unused Hardware currently :- 4670K MSI mobo 16GB ram i7 6700K b250 mobo Zotac GTX 1060 6GB Amp! edition Zotac GTX 1050 mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author 1 minute ago, paddy-stone said: The one you chose is fine, just select 7000 under the XMP profile/frequency as that board can only go up to 7000 according to the newegg link. Well does the ram have xmp and does the motherboard have support for xmp 3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, aShqrk said: Well does the ram have xmp and does the motherboard have support for xmp 3.0 Yes. Please quote my post, or put @paddy-stone if you want me to respond to you. Spoiler PCs:- Main PC build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2K6Q7X ASUS x53e - i7 2670QM / Sony BD writer x8 / Win 10, Elemetary OS, Ubuntu/ Samsung 830 SSD Lenovo G50 - 8Gb RAM - Samsung 860 Evo 250GB SSD - DVD writer Displays:- Philips 55 OLED 754 model Panasonic 55" 4k TV LG 29" Ultrawide Philips 24" 1080p monitor as backup Storage/NAS/Servers:- ESXI/test build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4wyR9G Main Server https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3Qftyk Backup server - HP Proliant Gen 8 4 bay NAS running FreeNAS ZFS striped 3x3TiB WD reds HP ProLiant G6 Server SE316M1 Twin Hex Core Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz 48GB RAM Gaming/Tablets etc:- Xbox One S 500GB + 2TB HDD PS4 Nvidia Shield TV Xiaomi/Pocafone F2 pro 8GB/256GB Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Unused Hardware currently :- 4670K MSI mobo 16GB ram i7 6700K b250 mobo Zotac GTX 1060 6GB Amp! edition Zotac GTX 1050 mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author 1 minute ago, paddy-stone said: Yes. To both or one and if one which one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author What ram should I use for 13600k and rx 6950 xt oc and this motherboard for gaming: https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-z790-a-wifi/p/N82E16813119601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, aShqrk said: What ram should I use for 13600k and rx 6950 xt oc and this motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-z790-a-wifi/p/N82E16813119601 That is going to depend on your use case. It has to be ddr5. If you are just using it for gaming, a 32gb kit of 2 16 with cas latency of a close to 30 as possible at 6000 would be a great option for pretty much any consumer use case. Something like this https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820374369 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author 1 minute ago, m9x3mos said: That is going to depend on your use case. It has to be ddr5. If you are just using it for gaming, a 32gb kit of 2 16 with cas latency of a close to 30 as possible at 6000 would be a great option for pretty much any consumer use case. Something like this https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820374369 Is that the fastest cl30 ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, aShqrk said: Is that the fastest cl30 I believe so. As you go faster in speed the latency goes higher. But it is a calculation between the two to get actual latency the system will see. Jay talked about it a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 Author 4 minutes ago, m9x3mos said: I believe so. As you go faster in speed the latency goes higher. But it is a calculation between the two to get actual latency the system will see. Jay talked about it a while back. Can it easily go faster with xmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, m9x3mos said: I believe so. As you go faster in speed the latency goes higher. But it is a calculation between the two to get actual latency the system will see. Jay talked about it a while back. An example is 6000 at cl 30 comes out to 10 ns latency. That compared to 6600 at cl 32 is 9.69 ns latency. So yes, that can be technically faster but the price jumps by a significant amount. It is about 100 more for the faster kit I believe and unless you are doing memory intensive operations you won't see that difference really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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