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why dont psus do something about power outages?

adarw

title says it all, if your in a area with a lot of power outages you need a ups, but those are expensive, are there any companies trying to find a solution?

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Why add cost when most people buying your desktop product won't strictly need a UPS?

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1 minute ago, adarw said:

title says it all, if your in a area with a lot of power outages you need a ups, but those are expensive, are there any companies trying to find a solution?

Sure, you can get a solar set up and a battery installed in your home.

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If you're just gaming on your computer, the power outage doesn't matter. You're still gonna lose internet connection so any online game is gonna kick you out.

 

Those who need their PC to stay on will find the added cost of a UPS worth it.

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are you asking why PSU manufacturers dont put batteries in their PSU enough to last an outage or?

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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28 minutes ago, adarw said:

are there any companies trying to find a solution?


The thing is... the solution for that is... well... I don't know...

 

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Power outages tend to be generally uncommon, but might vary depending on where you are. The power has to come from somewhere. If it isn't coming out of the wall, you need to either get another source, or store it locally.

 

Computer PSUs already have some limited sustaining capability. They can cover very short brownouts/dropouts. We're talking fraction of a second stuff here, so that wont help for anything other than shortest glitches.

 

Beyond that, a UPS is pretty much unavoidable, and even then, you need to size it according to the need. UPS are generally intended to buy you a little time to safely shut down or switch to an alternate power source. You're not going to run for a long time off a UPS unless you buy a seriously oversized one.

 

If you really expect to outages to last longer than some minutes, you then need to be looking at adding another form of electricity generation, like a generator. How much money do you want to throw at a hypothetical situation?

 

 

Alternatively buy a system with a built in power backup: A laptop.

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34 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

are you asking why PSU manufacturers dont put batteries in their PSU enough to last an outage or?

no. my question is why is there no solution to stop it.

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8 minutes ago, adarw said:

no. my question is why is there no solution to stop it.

other than implementing a UPS solution, any other ideas?

 

just FYI, UPS is huge because the batteries needed to last a mid-range PC for 15 minute isnt small, plus the circuitry and what not

so it wouldnt fit into ATX PSU form factor and do anything meaningful

 

plus, batteries degrade and need swapping, idk if it's a good idea to implement it into PSU which isnt user service friendly

 

albeit having specific circuitry to convert 12v directly to voltages PC need would be more efficient than making it into 110-240v AC and then pumping it into PSU

though... you cant do much without a display so you still need a UPS for that 

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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15 minutes ago, adarw said:

no. my question is why is there no solution to stop it.

But... there are...? They just so niche, that you apparently haven't even bothered looking for them?

Here's a video on Nipron ones (hey, uploaded by Jonnyguru)

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This also looks similar, but as you can see, the max power output of their ATX model is 250W

https://www.atx-upsu.com/

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6 minutes ago, seon123 said:

But... there are...? They just so niche, that you apparently haven't even bothered looking for them?

 

welp i tried my best to look for them... that vid only has 400 views....

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