This guy liquid-cooled his Canon EOS R5 and beat the 8K overheating issues

[poochyena]

Summary

Some guy water cooled his camera because of thermal issues, but there was also some weird firmware that shuts the camera off at a certain point even without overheating.

 

Quotes

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The Canon EOS R5, despite receiving firmware update to help reduce the chances of it happening, has a thing for overheating when shooting video. Every single piece of (admittedly, circumstantial) evidence points to it being a timer that’s hard-coded into the camera and not really based on the temperature inside the camera at all. Or is it?

Matt at DIYPerks decided to have a go at liquid cooling his shiny new $3,900 Canon EOS R5. And after doing tests using the original firmware, he saw the results we all expected. The camera shut down right at the time limit, despite being cooled pretty much to the ambient room temperature. When he installed the v1.1 firmware update, though, everything changed.

When Canon released the v1.1 firmware (they’re at v1.2.0 now), the time limits went up. Many of us simply assumed that Canon had increased the timer, and for some, it made a big difference. For others, not so much. Although it looks like it might actually be monitoring temperatures now and it isn’t just implementing an arbitrary time limit.

 

My thoughts

 Not sure if this is considered news or not, but it reminded me of linus. Maybe water cooled cameras will become more of a real thing like water cooled PCs.

 

Sources

https://www.diyphotography.net/this-guy-liquid-cooled-his-canon-eos-r5-and-beat-the-8k-overheating-issues/

[soldier_ph]

Water cooled fans when ?

[wall03]

Me: Doesn't have problems like that because I have an EOS Mark 2

Everyone: doesn't care and fixes their issues with crazy tricks

[Drama Lama]

What can’t be watercooled?

[wall03]

1 minute ago, Drama Lama said:

What can’t be watercooled?

Pape-

oh wait

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, soldier_ph said:

Water cooled fans when ?

Only in the initial testing to prove the cpu was what was heating up and causing the problem.   The final solution was thermal paste, pads, and copper spreader plates combined with fan blown air cooling.  Watercooling is a bit of a misnomer here.  It wasn’t the final solution.  The final solution WAS very cpu cooling like though.

Edited November 29, 2020 by Bombastinator

[StDragon]

Or, maybe he should just dunk the camera under water and take video of him snorkeling. Like, duh! 

 

Spoiler

Don't follow that advice in case you're one of THOSE naïve morons. 

 

[THraShArD]

That's funny, but defeats the purpose of enjoying photography as a hobby.  We don't need 8k

 

Edit: Just a theory and trying to fully connect the dots is the great push for technology is to help push Fake AI.

 

I've noticed older analog photos, Facebook can't even tag the faces of people.

[williamcll]

I wonder if Linus' watercooled RED inspired him?

[abc_123]

5 hours ago, THraShArD said:

That's funny, but defeats the purpose of enjoying photography as a hobby.  We don't need 8k

 

 

I also can't imagine it would be particularly fun or practical to be filming video for extended periods of time with a camera in that form factor, don't know what this style of camera body is actually called, I'd say DSLR but its mirrorless.

 

And, correct me if I'm wrong, it has a full frame sensor meaning if you want to get an image similar to Super 35mm you're going to need a lens with a longer focal length which is more weight hanging off the front making it even more uncomfortable as opposed to an actual video camera.

 

Considering it can't actually seem to film 8k without thermal issues it leads me to believe it shooting in 8k is mostly just a marketing gimmick.

[Bombastinator]

22 minutes ago, Emily123 said:

 

I also can't imagine it would be particularly fun or practical to be filming video for extended periods of time with a camera in that form factor, don't know what this style of camera body is actually called, I'd say DSLR but its mirrorless.

 

And, correct me if I'm wrong, it has a full frame sensor meaning if you want to get an image similar to Super 35mm you're going to need a lens with a longer focal length which is more weight hanging off the front making it even more uncomfortable as opposed to an actual video camera.

 

Considering it can't actually seem to film 8k without thermal issues it leads me to believe it shooting in 8k is mostly just a marketing gimmick.

Apparently it can do it, just not for very long without modification.  If you don’t need to make something more than a few minutes long it doesn’t matter.  Price might be a factor.  8k cameras with decent optics aren’t cheap.  

[abc_123]

11 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Apparently it can do it, just not for very long without modification.  If you don’t need to make something more than a few minutes long it doesn’t matter.  Price might be a factor.  8k cameras with decent optics aren’t cheap.  

 

I looked at the UK site and they list it as being able to record up to 20 minutes at 8k 30p from a cold start which seems pretty decent. After which a 10 minute cool down gives around 3 minutes of recording time depending on ambient temperature. For some reason I couldn't find this information in the product showcase on the US site.

 

https://www.canon.co.uk/cameras/eos-r5/video-performance/

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/explore/product-showcases/cameras-and-lenses/eos-r5

 

From UK site:

[PocketNerd]

>DIY Perks

"Some Guy"

[Taf the Ghost]

As @LinusTechhas conclusively shown, if it produces heat, you can water cool it. Whether it's a good idea , that's a completely different discussion.

[abc_123]

10 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

As @LinusTechhas conclusively shown, if it produces heat, you can water cool it. Whether it's a good idea , that's a completely different discussion.

 

But what @LinusTech hasn't made is a sub-ambient phase change / chillier cooled camera.

[Bombastinator]

7 minutes ago, Emily123 said:

 

But what @LinusTech hasn't made is a sub-ambient phase change / chillier cooled camera.

I could see that being potentially a serious issue.  There are problems with condensation in sub ambient cooling that would be unusually problematic for electronics in general and photographic equipment in particular.  I don’t recall sub-ambient being attempted at any point in the cannon camera video.

[Fnige]

On 11/30/2020 at 3:52 AM, Drama Lama said:

What can’t be watercooled?

Doom.

Spoiler

inb4 Doom on a water cooling rig

 

[Bombastinator]

3 hours ago, SlimyPython said:

Doom.

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inb4 Doom on a water cooling rig

 

Like dr doom?  He kinda NEEDS watercooling I think.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

On 11/30/2020 at 3:44 AM, Emily123 said:

 

I also can't imagine it would be particularly fun or practical to be filming video for extended periods of time with a camera in that form factor

Have you ever seen a XX century TV studio camera?

This is meant to be attached to  your biking helmet, to film the places you visit.

[Kirrr]

"this guy"

 

omfg...

[SpaceGhostC2C]

13 hours ago, Kirrr said:

"this guy"

 

omfg...

RIP Matt