Intel GPU Benchmarked on Geekbench

[Random_Person1234]

Summary

Iris Xe Max, Intel’s discrete GPU for notebooks, has been benchmarked on Geekbench 5. The performance shown is similar to an RX550 and barely beats the MX330. The performance is also similar to a GT1030.

 

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The Iris Xe Max (DG1) GPU, which is already shipping to OEMs, has graced the grounds of Geekbench 5. The submissions (via Tum_Apisak) show that the looming GPU's performance is somewhere along the lines of AMD's Radeon RX 550.

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The Iris Xe Max never aimed to compete in the performance bracket; therefore, it isn't a big shocker that the GPU barely beats Nvidia's GeForce MX330. The Geekbench 5 numbers showed that the Iris Xe Max was just 6.5% faster than the GeForce MX330. On the contrary, the GeForce MX350 delivered up to 16.4% higher performance than Intel's offering.

My thoughts

 This shows that Intel DG1, or Iris Xe Max, doesn’t bring much new to the notebook GPU market in terms of performance. Although I think Iris Xe Max might be available in more laptops than Nvidia MX due to Intel touting it as a Tiger Lake pair.

 

Sources

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-iris-xe-max-dg1-gpu-performance-benchmark 

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/search?utf8=✓&q=iris+xe+max

 

[Bombastinator]

If they got the 330 they’re on the board.  The bottom of the board, but they’re on it.

[Bitter]

What we need to know if how power efficient is it? If it's only as good as a MX330 but uses 1/4 the power then it's pretty good for a laptop!

[niofalpha]

I expect Intel to try and scoop up market share on the low end, offer a solution similar to SLI with the iGPUs, then 2-4 generations down the line to come in and be reasonably competitive at the mid-high end.

[RejZoR]

If it delivered performance of an RX 580, I'd be very impressed. That would be a decent bar to set imo.

[TetraSky]

Bottom of the barrel performances I see. Just what I expect from Intel graphics.

But hey, at least it's something better than their regular integrated junk.

 

Remains to be seen if the power consumption of this new "discreet gpu" is worth it over a Ryzen 4500U with built-in GPU if its performance is only as good as an MX330

 

[Dabombinable]

Considering this is only in OpenCL, we have to wait and see if its the same for gaming and other 3D tasks. Either way - it is so far doing better compared to AMD and Nvidia than Intel's i740 did with all of its competitors.

[Bombastinator]

17 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

Bottom of the barrel performances I see. Just what I expect from Intel graphics.

But hey, at least it's something better than their regular integrated junk.

 

Remains to be seen if the power consumption of this new "discreet gpu" is worth it over a Ryzen 4500U with built-in GPU if its performance is only as good as an MX330

 

I think I read somewhere that they’re doing integrated Xe in rocketlake stuff and it was beating vega8 but losing to vega11 or something.  This implies discrete Xe is significantly slower than integrated Xe.  Not sure what is up.  As always, independent reviews are the way.

[Random_Person1234]

2 hours ago, niofalpha said:

I expect Intel to try and scoop up market share on the low end, offer a solution similar to SLI with the iGPUs, then 2-4 generations down the line to come in and be reasonably competitive at the mid-high end.

If rumors/leaks are true, Intel is aiming for performance between the 3070 and 3080 for DG2.

[Bombastinator]

1 minute ago, Random_Person1234 said:

If rumors/leaks are true, Intel is aiming for performance between the 3070 and 3080 for DG2.

Which leads me to suspect intel’s reach exceeds its grasp.

[Kisai]

6 hours ago, Random_Person1234 said:

Summary

Iris Xe Max, Intel’s discrete GPU for notebooks, has been benchmarked on Geekbench 5. The performance shown is similar to an RX550 and barely beats the MX330. The performance is also similar to a GT1030.

 

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My thoughts

 This shows that Intel DG1, or Iris Xe Max, doesn’t bring much new to the notebook GPU market in terms of performance. Although I think Iris Xe Max might be available in more laptops than Nvidia MX due to Intel touting it as a Tiger Lake pair.

 

Sources

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-iris-xe-max-dg1-gpu-performance-benchmark 

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/search?utf8=✓&q=iris+xe+max

 

 

So basically it's a joke. Again. I'd expect 1050Ti performance, as that would at least bring it within 1080p60 on games and applications on a typical laptop configuration, but this feels like settling for 720p30.

[Bombastinator]

4 minutes ago, Kisai said:

 

So basically it's a joke. Again. I'd expect 1050Ti performance, as that would at least bring it within 1080p60 on games and applications on a typical laptop configuration, but this feels like settling for 720p30.

Yeah.  There’s something up here.  I’ve seen demonst actions of Xe in iGPUs that at least appeared to be much faster than this.  Gonna need to see independent benchmarks to form an opinion.  Data seems scattered.

[Dabombinable]

Are people still missing that the benchmark was only OpenCL? As in not representative of gaming or overall  performance?

[S w a t s o n]

pretty sure intel is giving these gpus away

[Ash_Kechummm]

On 10/25/2020 at 7:08 AM, Bombastinator said:

There’s something up here.  I’ve seen demonst actions of Xe in iGPUs that at least appeared to be much faster than this.

Remember how the Vega 56 and 64 were compute powerhouses but just couldn't  perform well in games? I think what's happening with Xe is the opposite of that.

 

22 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

Are people still missing that the benchmark was only OpenCL? As in not representative of gaming or overall  performance?

 

This is exactly what I wanted to say. thanks for putting it in an easy to understand way.

 

On 10/25/2020 at 7:08 AM, Bombastinator said:

Gonna need to see independent benchmarks to form an opinion.  Data seems scattered.

That's true for everything!

[Bombastinator]

3 minutes ago, Ash_Kechummm said:

Remember how the Vega 56 and 64 were compute powerhouses but just couldn't  perform well in games? I think what's happening with Xe is the opposite of that.

 

 

This is exactly what I wanted to say. thanks for putting it in an easy to understand way.

 

That's true for everything!

Everything computer wise anyway

[CarlBar]

On 10/25/2020 at 1:31 AM, Kisai said:

 

So basically it's a joke. Again. I'd expect 1050Ti performance, as that would at least bring it within 1080p60 on games and applications on a typical laptop configuration, but this feels like settling for 720p30.

 

It's a notebook GPU, Power efficiency is far more important than raw performance there. It's not supposed to be especially capable.

[LAwLz]

Some things to keep in mind:

• A single benchmark is not reliable. You usually need several samples to get a good understanding of how it performs.
• GeekBench is a terrible GPU benchmark if you only look at the final score. For example, if we look at the particle physics test we see that the Xe MAX outperforms GT 1030 by about 60%. But for things like face detection the GT 1030 wins by ~17%.
• Benchmarking laptop components is quite hard because performance heavily relies on cooling and form factor. One laptop component in one laptop might perform great because of good cooling, while the same component might perform horribly in a different laptop with worse cooling. Without knowing which laptop the test was perform on, it will tell us very little about how good the individual component actually is.
• "Leaked benchmarks" like these can often be unreliable. For example they can be faked, or they might not be representative of the final product.
• The drivers are probably not entirely finalized. A lot can happen with that, especially on something like this which is very new.

 

All in all, I'd say this is interesting but doesn't really tell us anything meaningful about how it performs. Wait for third party reviews before making your minds up.

[Master Disaster]

On 10/25/2020 at 12:05 AM, Random_Person1234 said:

If rumors/leaks are true, Intel is aiming for performance between the 3070 and 3080 for DG2.

You really believe they can get from an MX330 to a 3070 in one generation? I'm not sure I believe that they believe that TBH.

[Ash_Kechummm]

1 hour ago, Master Disaster said:

You really believe they can get from an MX330 to a 3070 in one generation? I'm not sure I believe that they believe that TBH.

Aiming for something doesn't need me to actually have the ability to achieve it; just because it's virtually impossible to do doesn't mean Intel can't shoot itself in the foot by keeping it as a target (although I really wish Intel doesn't embarrass itself anymore)

[Ash_Kechummm]

On 10/25/2020 at 1:35 PM, S w a t s o n said:

pretty sure intel is giving these gpus away

Quite literally; they're rumoured to be on desktop Rocket Lake CPUs (albeit in a cut-down form) 

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, Master Disaster said:

You really believe they can get from an MX330 to a 3070 in one generation? I'm not sure I believe that they believe that TBH.

They don’t need to.  GPUs are a sewn up market.  That means the openings are above the top (beat a 3090) under the bottom (be cheaper than a 1030) or crash through the middle (what AMD keeps trying to do) imho a 3070 competitor is actually a terrible idea. Crashing through the center is the hard way in. Don’t make a $350 card, make a $50 card.  Then next year do a $50 and a $90 card.  And on and on.

[Kisai]

2 hours ago, CarlBar said:

 

It's a notebook GPU, Power efficiency is far more important than raw performance there. It's not supposed to be especially capable.

Yet, my 3 year old laptop runs circles around this with a 1050Ti, if the benchmark is to be believed.

 

Like here's the thing. If a laptop has a 1080p screen, it should be capable of 1080p60 (or p120 if it has a 120hz screen) under all conditions that the laptop is expected to perform in. Otherwise you're really overselling the capability. I don't expect 1080p120hz performance on a 15" laptop because I know no 15" laptop is capable of this, even if it's an inch thick. A desktop with this capability would likewise need a gtx 1070. That just isn't happening.

 

Onboard graphics will always be hobbled by the system memory, and that should be an expectation. That's why one shouldn't expect iGPU parts to perform at the capability of a dGPU.

 

It doesn't really surprise me that Intel can't offer a compelling iGPU part, and Apple dumping Intel to use their iphone IP to build ARM Mac's likely was the only path forward for Apple laptops and low-end mac's because the iPad already makes the Intel parts look bad.

[S w a t s o n]

1 hour ago, Ash_Kechummm said:

Quite literally; they're rumoured to be on desktop Rocket Lake CPUs (albeit in a cut-down form) 

Not the same thing, but yea Xe wil be on CPUs that have integrated graphics. I'm talking specifically DG1 / Xe Max discrete gpu

[Mark Kaine]

It's also a really good way to make consumers not want your products... 

 

Announced: "around 3070 levels" 

 

Final product: "well it is almost faster than a 1050ti!!"