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1080Ti in 2020

Ashino

Hey folks, I'm just another person who is uncertain about whether or not I should upgrade my trusty ol 1080 Ti into one of the new big boys like a 3080 or a 3090 (maybe not a 3090 because that price is...yikes). Being able to run games at 60fps+ using a single 1080p monitor with ultra settings is all that matters for me, but I'm not sure if the 1080 Ti can deliver that anymore after playing some of the new demanding games like rdr2. My question is, do you think the 1080 Ti will survive the rest of 2020 or will it get pummeled by games like Cyberpunk, Watch Dogs Legion, or really any other AAA game that comes after that? For fellow 1080TI owners, what will you do? will you stick with the 1080Ti or do you think upgrading now is worth it even before 3080Ti or similar card comes out? for a guy like me who is content with a single 1080p monitor, do you think upgrading is still a good idea?

 

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i7 8700k no oc

EVGA GTX 1080TI SC2

16gb ddr4 corsair vengeance ram,

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10 minutes ago, Ashino said:

Being able to run games at 60fps+ using a single 1080p monitor

Yeah the 1080 Ti can handle that. No point in upgrading for 1080p

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Considering you're only playing at 1080P, an upgrade would be pointless for you.

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dont waste money 1080ti is a pretty good card

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10 minutes ago, Ashino said:

Being able to run games at 60fps+ using a single 1080p monitor with ultra settings is all that matters for me

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-strix-oc/22.html

 

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Looks like RDR2 does just below 60fps maxed out, you can tweak the AA to get over 60 probably.

 

The 1080 Ti should last you a couple years more for 1080 tbh. Only the most horribly optimized games will go below 60fps for a long time.

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At 1080p, the 30 series cards are all CPU bottlenecked even on something like a 10900K. There's no point in getting those cards unless you're targeting 1440p+.

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4 minutes ago, Energycore said:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-strix-oc/22.html

 

red-dead-redemption-2-1920-1080.png

 

Looks like RDR2 does just below 60fps maxed out, you can tweak the AA to get over 60 probably.

 

The 1080 Ti should last you a couple years more for 1080 tbh. Only the most horribly optimized games will go below 60fps for a long time.

weird because that's not really the case for me. If i max out every setting at 1080p i end up with something like 40-45fps with my setup. I had to set most settings to high in order to get 60+ fps most of the time.

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Stay with your 1080Ti for 1080p 60Fps. RDR2 was very unoptimized where the highest settings only gave you 1% better looks over the 2nd highest and took 20% of your FPS away. Cyberpunk has very low required specs. The 1080 Ti will handle it easily for sure, albeit without raytraycing or DLSS.

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Just now, Ashino said:

weird because that's not really the case for me. If i max out every setting at 1080p i end up with something like 40-45fps with my setup.

TPU tests with an OC 9900K and 4000MHz RAM, there could be a small amount of CPU overhead.

 

Also switch to Vulkan if you're on DX12 and that might add performance.

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1 minute ago, Ashino said:

weird because that's not really the case for me. If i max out every setting at 1080p i end up with something like 40-45fps with my setup.

It might behoove you to upgrade, but you don't need a 30 series. The 20 series cards can be purchased on the used market for dirt cheap right now, and would be a much more reasonable upgrade for your needs.

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1 minute ago, Chris Pratt said:

It might behoove you to upgrade, but you don't need a 30 series. The 20 series cards can be purchased on the used market for dirt cheap right now, and would be a much more reasonable upgrade for your needs.

eh prices have bounced back, sold a 2080 super ko for 630 a few days ago. 2080tis are usually >700 from what i see. since stock of 20 series is diminishing and 30 series basically doesnt exist, prices may continue to trend up for a little while. 

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2 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

It might behoove you to upgrade, but you don't need a 30 series. The 20 series cards can be purchased on the used market for dirt cheap right now, and would be a much more reasonable upgrade for your needs.

I've thought about that, but I really don't like buying used parts. You'll never know if the seller used it to mine 24/7 and the card is on it's last legs. 

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I run 1080ti at 1440p 165Hz and I get well over 100FPS in every game. 

Obviously not maxed out but most games nowdays look barely different on High vs Ultra but the FPS difference is huge so I don't even bother with Ultra settings unless its textures for which the 1080ti has plenty of VRAM to get them maxed out. 

 

But its about personal preference obviously... if you absolutely need max settings then 3080 may be worth it to you. 

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It depends. 

I have been testing my GTX 1080 ti SC2 and it does very well. 

 

Here is my SOTTR run at the highest settings at 1440p. I know with the settings I use to play I can average 100fps.

SOTTR1440p1080ti2.thumb.jpg.bc432a91d85e3c66acfb00caedd1ce61.jpg

 

RDR 2 is the hardest game I own and the 1080 ti does well in that to.

RDRR21080ti.jpg.d722950cb1a64c69199306d11a106d08.jpg 

 

If you need ray racing, upgrade.

If you need 144hz, upgrade.

But if you don't need these things you are good for now.

 

I would even suggest getting a 1440p monitor and then seeing what you need.

 

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FTW3 owner and 1080p 144hz monitor checking in. I'm keeping it for the foreseeable future. 

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51 minutes ago, Ashino said:

for a guy like me who is content with a single 1080p monitor, do you think upgrading is still a good idea?

probably not, at 1080p

why are you worrying about it now? just replace it when it stops doing what you want

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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37 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

At 1080p, the 30 series cards are all CPU bottlenecked even on something like a 10900K. There's no point in getting those cards unless you're targeting 1440p+.

Yeah I'd wait for Zen 3 before upgrading, I know OP has an intel cpu but this is just in general.

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53 minutes ago, jones177 said:

It depends. 

I have been testing my GTX 1080 ti SC2 and it does very well. 

 

Here is my SOTTR run at the highest settings at 1440p. I know with the settings I use to play I can average 100fps.

SOTTR1440p1080ti2.thumb.jpg.bc432a91d85e3c66acfb00caedd1ce61.jpg

 

RDR 2 is the hardest game I own and the 1080 ti does well in that to.

RDRR21080ti.jpg.d722950cb1a64c69199306d11a106d08.jpg 

 

If you need ray racing, upgrade.

If you need 144hz, upgrade.

But if you don't need these things you are good for now.

 

I would even suggest getting a 1440p monitor and then seeing what you need.

 

For the first benchmark in rdr2, is that with every single setting maxed out? I just tried maxing everything out and got fps in the low 30s. Aside from the cpu, do you also run an oc on the GPU? Might update my driver to see if it makes a difference. 

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28 minutes ago, Ashino said:

For the first benchmark in rdr2, is that with every single setting maxed out? I just tried maxing everything out and got fps in the low 30s. Aside from the cpu, do you also run an oc on the GPU?

Yes. 

The EVGA 1080 ti SC2 had +50 on the clock and + 400 on the memory with the power limit all the way up. The i7 8086k was at 5.1ghz but that runs the same as a 5ghz overclock. With these settings the SC2 will use up to 300 watts.

Here is what it looks like running Heaven.

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I recommend using the Hardware Unboxed settings. To me they look the same as Ultra but a lot easier to do.

 

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Using the above video,...and the TPU Graphs from earlier...There is a SINGLE Water quality setting in RDR2 that reduces you greatly.

Reduce that one setting ONE step, which you won't even notice. and you will be at Max (except this setting) and be 60FPS+

Ultra is for Screenshots anyway (some game visual examples exist outside of this but for the most part it stands)

It's good to see that LOW settings today can destroy Ultra in older games pretty easily.
High instead of Ultra (Todays games) can look exactly the same without pixel peeping +Gains to FPS

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