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Continuing to experiment with virtualization I've decided to test WCG on the 1950X bare metal vs a VM that has had some compute optimization done to it and...I can't tell the difference. Statically speaking there should be at least a 1%~2% reduction but in the productivity I can't see it.

 

This will be great for bunkering. :D

As I've discovered though WCG doesn't like it when too many clients that belong to the same account ask for work all at once so you'd be best off only making up to 4 running simultaneously unless you're bunkering a different project.

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Bad news. For reasons that I can't even begin to understand I've lost the ability to BOINC crunch on my GPUs. For no apparent reason the system decided to stop booting to the OS. It was getting hung on something. Re-installing the OS wasn't hard but the AMD driver for this version of Linux has for no reason decided that it bricks the install rather than enable OpenCL for GPU compute.

 

This sucks. I'm 2/3rds of the way to the gold contributor badge and this super random thing had to happen.

 

What are the chances anybody knows another way to get OpenCL working on Debian because what looks like the official way has officially broke.

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53 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

Bad news. For reasons that I can't even begin to understand I've lost the ability to BOINC crunch on my GPUs. For no apparent reason the system decided to stop booting to the OS. It was getting hung on something. Re-installing the OS wasn't hard but the AMD driver for this version of Linux has for no reason decided that it bricks the install rather than enable OpenCL for GPU compute.

 

This sucks. I'm 2/3rds of the way to the gold contributor badge and this super random thing had to happen.

 

What are the chances anybody knows another way to get OpenCL working on Debian because what looks like the official way has officially broke.

No idea about Debian but in Ubuntu 18 I’ve found you sometimes need the development packages when installing OpenCL and telling it to install just the dev packages seems to work.

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1 minute ago, Gorgon said:

No idea about Debian but in Ubuntu 18 I’ve found you sometimes need the development packages when installing OpenCL and telling it to install just the dev packages seems to work.

It's Ubuntu (based on the Debian distro) running version 18.04.3 LTS. Installing the AMD driver from AMD's website just bricks the whole install. What are these development packages? Are they direct from AMD or do I need to get them from somewhere else?

 

Someone I was speaking with on the form mentioned rocm which is apparently a more proper/official way of getting OpenCL on Ubuntu. I played with rocm for quite a while but none of it worked.

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9 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

It's Ubuntu (based on the Debian distro) running version 18.04.3 LTS. Installing the AMD driver from AMD's website just bricks the whole install. What are these development packages? Are they direct from AMD or do I need to get them from somewhere else?

 

Someone I was speaking with on the form mentioned rocm which is apparently a more proper/official way of getting OpenCL on Ubuntu. I played with rocm for quite a while but none of it worked.

I just usually “apt install opencl-dev” that’s taken care of F@H not recognizing nvidia GPUs in the past

 

but no idea about the AMD drivers. If they’re anything like the nvidia then the open-source drivers from the Graphics PPA likely wont work as well.

 

I see some people mentioning using nomodeset flags in grub and others mentioning disabling secure boot.

 

Binary drivers are ugly

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12 hours ago, Gorgon said:

I just usually “apt install opencl-dev” that’s taken care of F@H not recognizing nvidia GPUs in the past

 

but no idea about the AMD drivers. If they’re anything like the nvidia then the open-source drivers from the Graphics PPA likely wont work as well.

 

I see some people mentioning using nomodeset flags in grub and others mentioning disabling secure boot.

 

Binary drivers are ugly

I gave ROCm another shot. It's compatibility list is really short. My GPUs aren't on it. Closest to is is the 390X and the devs say it only might work no guarantees. End result was a complete failure.

 

Tried the opencl-dev package and it did nothing.

 

I have one last thing to try. I was previously using Ubuntu 19.10. I had found drivers though the AMD site and a script to run the installation. It had worked before but it broke QEMU. For now if I can get it going I'll slap the GPUs on a rig and let them whirl till I reach my goal.

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good-new-everyone.jpeg.c9ad95b8ad1bff2e39070fdff8cc1ff6.jpeg

 

We're back in action.

 

opencl.thumb.png.b3b8f906617c5ccd23f89e7da8b4938f.png

 

As it turns out by Googling the error message that pops up in the last line of the Terminal after installing the amdgpu-pro driver it links to missing packages. Trying to install these packages it makes the claim they're already installed. It made me wonder though. Is it a kernel compatibility issue?

 

I had downloaded the .ISO from the Ubuntu website. It came with v5.3.0-26-generic. I decided to check my File Server for a copy of Ubuntu and found one for 18.04.3 LTS. I installed it and it had kernel 4.15.0-74-generic. So I tried installing the amdgpu-pro driver on that and yay it works.

 

So two things have happened here:

  1. Ubuntu has updated their current 18.04.3_LTS.iso file with kernel version 5.3.0-26-generic.
  2. AMD has NOT updated their current amdgpu-pro driver to be compatible with Ubuntus kernel update.

None of this explains why my rig committed seppuku in the first place but it means we're back up and running fully and crunching Einstein jobs. Hopefully nothing unexpected occurs again but for now everything seems to be working. :D

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Hey guys :) Does anybody have any idea why my boinc client isn't working on Mac OS Catalina? Is this a known problem? It worked fine on Mojave, but when I installed it yesterday it simply wouldn't work. Most of the drop down menu items were greyed out, and the little connection indicator in the bottom bar said it was disconnected. 

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1 minute ago, mattheginger said:

Hey guys :) Does anybody have any idea why my boinc client isn't working on Mac OS Catalina? Is this a known problem? It worked fine on Mojave, but when I installed it yesterday it simply wouldn't work. Most of the drop down menu items were greyed out, and the little connection indicator in the bottom bar said it was disconnected. 

Is part of the client 32-bit? Catalina is 64-bit only, anything 32-bit just won't run. 

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1 hour ago, mattheginger said:

Hey guys :) Does anybody have any idea why my boinc client isn't working on Mac OS Catalina? Is this a known problem? It worked fine on Mojave, but when I installed it yesterday it simply wouldn't work. Most of the drop down menu items were greyed out, and the little connection indicator in the bottom bar said it was disconnected. 

I am running on Catlina right now doing some Rosetta and SETI. Do you have the latest version of the client? Then it should be no problemo!

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On 1/20/2020 at 8:30 PM, Windows7ge said:

good-new-everyone.jpeg.c9ad95b8ad1bff2e39070fdff8cc1ff6.jpeg

 

We're back in action.

 

opencl.thumb.png.b3b8f906617c5ccd23f89e7da8b4938f.png

 

As it turns out by Googling the error message that pops up in the last line of the Terminal after installing the amdgpu-pro driver it links to missing packages. Trying to install these packages it makes the claim they're already installed. It made me wonder though. Is it a kernel compatibility issue?

 

I had downloaded the .ISO from the Ubuntu website. It came with v5.3.0-26-generic. I decided to check my File Server for a copy of Ubuntu and found one for 18.04.3 LTS. I installed it and it had kernel 4.15.0-74-generic. So I tried installing the amdgpu-pro driver on that and yay it works.

 

So two things have happened here:

  1. Ubuntu has updated their current 18.04.3_LTS.iso file with kernel version 5.3.0-26-generic.
  2. AMD has NOT updated their current amdgpu-pro driver to be compatible with Ubuntus kernel update.

None of this explains why my rig committed seppuku in the first place but it means we're back up and running fully and crunching Einstein jobs. Hopefully nothing unexpected occurs again but for now everything seems to be working. :D

Damn I need you to do a tutorial on this, please! I try to get my AMD GPU compute working on linux every few months but spend a whole day, get frustrated and give up... Idd love to BOINC/F@H on Linux but for some reason it wont take my VII and 290x (soon to be the hopefully decent big navi)

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5 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

Damn I need you to do a tutorial on this, please! I try to get my AMD GPU compute working on linux every few months but spend a whole day, get frustrated and give up... Idd love to BOINC/F@H on Linux but for some reason it wont take my VII and 290x (soon to be the hopefully decent big navi)

Unfortunately there isn't enough steps to warrant a tutorial.

  1. Download the driver
  2. Run the executable: ./amdgpu-pro-install --opencl=legacy,pal

At least that's how it is for Ubuntu 18.04.3 except at the moment AMD needs to update the driver for the newer kernel. There is a driver available for 19.10 but it's on another page and you may not be able to install it directly. I'd like to look into how to use the driver headlessly on Ubuntu Server. The installer does have a --headless argument but I've not tried it on a Server distro.

 

ROCm is suppose to be an open source more direct way of getting OpenCL on Linux but I've never gotten BOINC to recognize a GPU using it. The GPU support list for ROCm is very short and the R9 290X is not on it. The VII however is so you may like to try it.

 

On the other hand if you need a QEMU GPU Pass-though guide I have one of them in the works :P

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7 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

Unfortunately there isn't enough steps to warrant a tutorial.

  1. Download the driver
  2. Run the executable: ./amdgpu-pro-install --opencl=legacy,pal

At least that's how it is for Ubuntu 18.04.3 except at the moment AMD needs to update the driver for the newer kernel. There is a driver available for 19.10 but it's on another page and you may not be able to install it directly. I'd like to look into how to use the driver headlessly on Ubuntu Server. The installer does have a --headless argument but I've not tried it on a Server distro.

 

ROCm is suppose to be an open source more direct way of getting OpenCL on Linux but I've never gotten BOINC to recognize a GPU using it. The GPU support list for ROCm is very short and the R9 290X is not on it. The VII however is so you may like to try it.

 

On the other hand if you need a QEMU GPU Pass-though guide I have one of them in the works :P

Alright. I’ll  try that again next week when I have time! Thank you. I think my problem was not doing this legacy stuff and being on 19.something 

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3 hours ago, Metallus97 said:

Alright. I’ll  try that again next week when I have time! Thank you. I think my problem was not doing this legacy stuff and being on 19.something 

I believe by default without the argument it's suppose to install one, the other, or both but I can't remember. The Legacy OpenCL driver covers older cards like the HD7970/R9-290X, while PAL covers much newer cards so I just install both. Cover the whole spectrum.

 

The driver for 19.10 can be installed and used on 19.10 but the only way I got it to work was through some guys script he advertised on YouTube. Little sketchy, for what script language I can read it didn't look like it was doing anything nefarious though. It was mostly patching problems that seem to arise from the driver installation. Though when it was done it broke QEMU so take the advice with caution. I'll post links later today.

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@Metallus97 Found it. My mistake though it's for 19.04 not 19.10:

 

The driver page.

Sketchy guys script page.

 

Try it on a throw away install before trusting it for anything else. The EZ method is just using the 18.04.3 driver with 18.04.3 LTS except at this time you need to use an older kernel.

 

I'd like to try the driver on Ubuntu Server. Haven't gotten around to it yet.

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42 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

@Metallus97 Found it. My mistake though it's for 19.04 not 19.10:

-snibbidysnip-

The driver page.

Sketchy guys script page.

 

Try it on a throw away install before trusting it for anything else. The EZ method is just using the 18.04.3 driver with 18.04.3 LTS except at this time you need to use an older kernel.

 

I'd like to try the driver on Ubuntu Server. Haven't gotten around to it yet.

Thank you so very much! Will try in the next weeks when I have more time!

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On 1/31/2020 at 11:24 AM, Metallus97 said:

I am running on Catlina right now doing some Rosetta and SETI. Do you have the latest version of the client? Then it should be no problemo!

Yeah I've got the latest version. I just had a thought.... I haven't used boinc since I moved houses. My new connection may be CG Nat (not 100% sure). Does that play nice with the boinc client?

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5 hours ago, mattheginger said:

Yeah I've got the latest version. I just had a thought.... I haven't used boinc since I moved houses. My new connection may be CG Nat (not 100% sure). Does that play nice with the boinc client?

I am no network expert, but should not a a problem.

Allso this „connecting“ and grayed out menue has nothing to do with internt. This is the managing software trying to connect to 127.0.0.1. Thats where the client runs and can take commands form the management software. 

Try to do a full uninstall of the BOINC client (so not by moving it into the trash but by running the uninstaller), reboot, reinstall.

Oh and before check that you have the newest release Mac OS 10.15.3. That was released a few days ago.

Allso: Wich mac are you on?

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21 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

Only took forever but I'm up to Silver for African Rainfall Project: arp1_1.jpg.100ba3ab5303ee11bbb1ef012db5cc49.jpg

:D

 

Those take forever. I’m just running mapping Cancer markers and just got double diamond on that

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10 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

Those take forever. I’m just running mapping Cancer markers and just got double diamond on that

I've just enabled all of them. I've got 2 different 10 year diamonds, a 5 year diamond, almost a diamond on OpenZika, and I'm nearing a 20 year diamond :3

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Update... So boinc version 7.14.2 just wouldn't connect after a fresh install on Catalina, no matter what I tried (from googling on the interwebs).

 

But 7.16.3 (development version) seems to work flawlessly. So I guess I'll just have to use that for now...

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48 minutes ago, mattheginger said:

Update... So boinc version 7.14.2 just wouldn't connect after a fresh install on Catalina, no matter what I tried (from googling on the interwebs).

 

But 7.16.3 (development version) seems to work flawlessly. So I guess I'll just have to use that for now...

alright, I guess as long as it works and is stable its ok. 

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Hey guys, I just joined the Rosetta@home and WCG LTT teams! :) I see that my credits have been transferred to the LTT team. I understand the requirements for the folding@home team, crunch 21 WUs for the new team and you'll get the badge. I was wondering what the system is for BOINC - earn 25k MORE credits for the LTT team, before I get the badge? Or are the ~49k credits transferred to LTT due to my Rosetta@home(https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_user.php?userid=2073854) change valid for this?

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31 minutes ago, rkv_2401 said:

Hey guys, I just joined the Rosetta@home and WCG LTT teams! :) I see that my credits have been transferred to the LTT team. I understand the requirements for the folding@home team, crunch 21 WUs for the new team and you'll get the badge. I was wondering what the system is for BOINC - earn 25k MORE credits for the LTT team, before I get the badge? Or are the ~49k credits transferred to LTT due to my Rosetta@home(https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_user.php?userid=2073854) change valid for this?

You can check requirements for all badges for F@H and BOINC in this thread:

 

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