Posted April 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, tdkid said: it would depend on if the temps were for the card at idle or gaming but either way 85C is hotter than it should be which is one reason why its at the tier C. plus the list on the first page here doesn't really give accurate names to what the cards actually are. like everyone knows kingpin is a 2080TI but the other companies all have multiple cards using the same name like EVGA has 2060, 2070 and 2080 cards with the FTW3 name. i really don't know why do you insist on it beeing in tier C after providing all the links and stuff and me acutally owning the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 3, 2020 He completely misunderstood and thinks you want it in A or B. F@H Desktop: i9-13900K, ASUS Z790-E, 64GB DDR5-6000 CL36, RTX3080, 2TB MP600 Pro XT, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0, Corsair HX1200, Antec Vortex 360 AIO, Thermaltake Versa H25 TG, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max Mobile SFF rig: i9-9900K, Noctua NH-L9i, Asrock Z390 Phantom ITX-AC, 32GB, GTX1070, 2x1TB SX8200Pro RAID0, 2x5TB 2.5" HDD RAID0, Athena 500W Flex (Noctua fan), Custom 4.7l 3D printed case Asus Zenbook UM325UA, Ryzen 7 5700u, 16GB, 1TB, OLED GPD Win 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, silverera99 said: what are you talking about? who said something about IDLE temps? the temps discussed are LOAD temps as those are relevant in any practical use. why should be in tier C when compared to some F tier cards it performs the same or worse? what are you talking about? where did you specifically say that the temps were by doing X? idle temps and load temps are both relevant in picking the right GPU for what you are going to use it for. yes a lot of people game but not everyone does, if you go thru some of the GPU section threads some have been asking what is the best GPU for doing graphic design, 3D rendering for 3D printing and etc. where the card never goes above idle. it would be tier C in my guess because the exact card that was listed on the first page comparison list was not the gigabyte mini and was probably a 3 fan GPU. that is one reason why I think the exact card from the companies needs to be listed and not just the "gigabyte rtx 2060 OC". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, tdkid said: what are you talking about? where did you specifically say that the temps were by doing X? idle temps and load temps are both relevant in picking the right GPU for what you are going to use it for. yes a lot of people game but not everyone does, if you go thru some of the GPU section threads some have been asking what is the best GPU for doing graphic design, 3D rendering for 3D printing and etc. where the card never goes above idle. it would be tier C in my guess because the exact card that was listed on the first page comparison list was not the gigabyte mini and was probably a 3 fan GPU. that is one reason why I think the exact card from the companies needs to be listed and not just the "gigabyte rtx 2060 OC". i'm just gonna drop it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, silverera99 said: i'm just gonna drop it well explain it a little more, do you want the GPU to be in a higher tier or lower one. that is what you are missing from your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 3, 2020 He's complaining it's in tier C and saying the card is basically trash. What makes you think he'd want it ranked better? F@H Desktop: i9-13900K, ASUS Z790-E, 64GB DDR5-6000 CL36, RTX3080, 2TB MP600 Pro XT, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0, Corsair HX1200, Antec Vortex 360 AIO, Thermaltake Versa H25 TG, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max Mobile SFF rig: i9-9900K, Noctua NH-L9i, Asrock Z390 Phantom ITX-AC, 32GB, GTX1070, 2x1TB SX8200Pro RAID0, 2x5TB 2.5" HDD RAID0, Athena 500W Flex (Noctua fan), Custom 4.7l 3D printed case Asus Zenbook UM325UA, Ryzen 7 5700u, 16GB, 1TB, OLED GPD Win 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Kilrah said: He's complaining it's in tier C and saying the card is basically trash. What makes you think he'd want it ranked better? I didn't say that. what I said is that info from their comment was missing. like if the temps were for if it was at idle or during gameplay as not everyone is using these cards for games so the high temps might not be reached by someone who is just using their computer to look up things online. and if they think the card needs to be in a lower tier because of it. just give a little more info on the post to explain your thinking is my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Posted April 11, 2020 I don't see the asus rx 5700 dual here? Into what category would you put it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Dropit said: I don't see the asus rx 5700 dual here? Into what category would you put it? Not OP but it would either be Tier C or D, though I'm having a hard time finding reviews with thermals (or any reviews at all). Found a redditor's post showing 76c with a slight overclock, but having an Asus Dual 2080 myself (and a Dual 1660Ti from a friend), Asus's Dual RX 5700 cooler seems to be worst than the Dual RTX cooler. Given that, I would put it in Tier D, along with the TUF X3. But since there are no reviews or really anything known about this card (like the VRMs and thermals), it won't be put on the tier list for now. MAIN PC: CPU: Intel® Core™ i9-9900K Processor Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro Wifi CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4x8GB) 3000Mhz CL15 Case: CoolerMaster TD500 Mesh PSU: Thermaltake GF1 PE 750w Storage: 1TB Western Digital Blue 3D + 1TB Crucial P1 + 1TB ADATA XPG Gammix S11 Pro + 4TB Seagate Barracuda 5400RPM OS: Windows 10 Home Headphones: Philips SHP9500s Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Cherry MX Red Displays: Gigabyte M27Q (27" 1440p 170hz IPS), Samsung UN32EH4003FXZA (32" 768p 60hz TV) SECONDARY PC: CPU: Intel® Core™ i3-9100F Processor Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4-CB CPU Cooler: Arctic Alpine 12 CO GPU: EVGA RTX 3060 XC RAM: ADATA XPG 16GB (2x8GB) 2400Mhz CL16 Case: CyberpowerPC Onyxia PSU: ATNG ATA-B 800w 80 Plus Bronze Storage: 500GB Samsung 850 EVO + 2TB Seagate FireCuda SSHD 5400RPM OS: Windows 10 Home Former parts that I've used: Acer XG270HU, Asus Dual OC 2080, Gigabyte Aorus Master 3080, Gigabyte Gaming OC 3080, EVGA XC3 Ultra 3080, EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2020 5 hours ago, MrBrightSyde said: Not OP but it would either be Tier C or D, though I'm having a hard time finding reviews with thermals (or any reviews at all). Found a redditor's post showing 76c with a slight overclock, but having an Asus Dual 2080 myself (and a Dual 1660Ti from a friend), Asus's Dual RX 5700 cooler seems to be worst than the Dual RTX cooler. Given that, I would put it in Tier D, along with the TUF X3. But since there are no reviews or really anything known about this card (like the VRMs and thermals), it won't be put on the tier list for now. Ok thanks, didn't find any reviews either so I was hoping for somebody here to have experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 Any idea where the RX 580 DD goes? https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-580-rx-580p8rfd6/p/N82E16814150827?Item=N82E16814150827&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2f4LcRsY%2fxfx-radeon-rx-580-8-gb-dd-video-card-rx-580p8rfd6&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-9JzmN25mq3_Cf9jft9N8HQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 17, 2020 On 4/15/2020 at 3:48 PM, MrIronGolem27 said: Any idea where the RX 580 DD goes? https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-580-rx-580p8rfd6/p/N82E16814150827?Item=N82E16814150827&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2f4LcRsY%2fxfx-radeon-rx-580-8-gb-dd-video-card-rx-580p8rfd6&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-9JzmN25mq3_Cf9jft9N8HQ Probably Tier B. CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120mm AIO with push-pull Arctic P12 PWM fans RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB 3600 16-16-16-30 Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 GPU: ASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M Monitor: ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1 https://hwbot.org/submission/4497882_btgbullseye_gpupi_v3.3___32b_radeon_rx_5700_xt_13min_37sec_848ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 17, 2020 7 hours ago, BTGbullseye said: Probably Tier B. Thanks! Anyone else know about the EVGA GTX 1660 Black Gaming/XC Black Gaming/XC Gamingsingle-fan cards? https://www.anandtech.com/show/14071/nvidia-gtx-1660-review-feat-evga-xc-gaming/ Looks like the XC Gaming is the only model reviewed here but the differences between the models appears to be 2.75 vs 3 PCIe slot thickness, a slight clock speed difference, and 6-pin vs 8-pin power? The 1660 list only refers to "Gaming" EVGA 1660 cards as E-tier but these only seem to run relatively rather than absolutely hot? Then again, I don't know what typical GPU temperatures should look like. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/17/2020 at 6:39 AM, MrIronGolem27 said: Thanks! Anyone else know about the EVGA GTX 1660 Black Gaming/XC Black Gaming/XC Gamingsingle-fan cards? https://www.anandtech.com/show/14071/nvidia-gtx-1660-review-feat-evga-xc-gaming/ Looks like the XC Gaming is the only model reviewed here but the differences between the models appears to be 2.75 vs 3 PCIe slot thickness, a slight clock speed difference, and 6-pin vs 8-pin power? The 1660 list only refers to "Gaming" EVGA 1660 cards as E-tier but these only seem to run relatively rather than absolutely hot? Then again, I don't know what typical GPU temperatures should look like. lol you might want to look at the list again as it list EVGA kingpin, FTW3, XC, SC and gaming cards. the main problem with this list is that it doesnt say what the cards actually are, like the kingpin is a 2080ti, the FTW3 is a 2070 and the SC and Xc are 2060s. you have to do your own research in addition to that list. "2.75 vs 3 PCIe slot thickness." its the exact same thing. most cards are either a 2 or 2.75 slot card meaning the amount of slots on the back of your case the GPU will take up not the PCIe slot on your motherboard. "and 6-pin vs 8-pin power?" also sort of the same thing but a little different as that is the power connectors on the card. there are either 1, 2 or 3 power connectors on the card and they are 6 and/or 8 pin connectors meaning the number of pins to supply power and the amount of cables needed to supply them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, tdkid said: you might want to look at the list again as it list EVGA kingpin, FTW3, XC, SC and gaming cards. the main problem with this list is that it doesnt say what the cards actually are, like the kingpin is a 2080ti, the FTW3 is a 2070 and the SC and Xc are 2060s. you have to do your own research in addition to that list. "2.75 vs 3 PCIe slot thickness." its the exact same thing. most cards are either a 2 or 2.75 slot card meaning the amount of slots on the back of your case the GPU will take up not the PCIe slot on your motherboard. "and 6-pin vs 8-pin power?" also sort of the same thing but a little different as that is the power connectors on the card. there are either 1, 2 or 3 power connectors on the card and they are 6 and/or 8 pin connectors meaning the number of pins to supply power and the amount of cables needed to supply them. Thanks for the response! Yes, I see those listed. However, as you know is the case with EVGA's particularly atrocious product line segmentation with their graphics cards and power supplies, that means a lot of their cards have extra words on them. I take it that I could have completely ignored those in the context of this list's rankings? In that case, I see that these cards all rank roughly equal in terms of thermals, as I should have expected but still wanted to confirm anyway. I know what 6-pin and 8-pin power is, as well as I/O slot thickness and heatsink slot thickness. I was not asking for clarification about what features these are, only to confirm that these were the differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2020 Is there any website with large collections of temperature data for specific cards? I'm trying to look that up for the one-fan 16XX cards but I can't seem to find anything specific with either the name or the model number in the search bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 21, 2020 What about the EVGA 2070 Super KO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Posted April 25, 2020 Tier A High end (great cooling) Gigabyte: Gaming OC Sapphire: Pulse Powercolor: Red Dragon MSI: Evoke (after fix), Mech (after fix) XFX: Thicc II (after fix), RAW II (after fix) Anyone know what the "after fix" is for the RAW II card? Google shows that XFX was replacing Thicc II coolers, but I can't find anything on the RAW II. Is this a user-end fix? Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. My System: i7-13700KF // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // MSI MPG Z690 Edge Wifi // 32GB DDR5 G. SKILL RIPJAWS S5 6000 CL32 // Nvidia RTX 4070 Super FE // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B x2 // Royal Kludge RK100 // Logitech G Pro X Superlight // Sennheiser DROP PC38x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 25, 2020 Author 1 hour ago, Mister Woof said: Anyone know what the "after fix" is for the RAW II card? I don't recall the exact fix they've done, but from what I've seen is the RAW II now fine, while users had complaints before the Thicc ii fix, so it's mostly assumed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said: I don't recall the exact fix they've done, but from what I've seen is the RAW II now fine, while users had complaints before the Thicc ii fix, so it's mostly assumed thanks for the response. i have an older RAW II and while with my custom settings its manageable, i was wondering if they had a similar fix offer for users of earlier versions that they do for the THICC II Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. My System: i7-13700KF // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // MSI MPG Z690 Edge Wifi // 32GB DDR5 G. SKILL RIPJAWS S5 6000 CL32 // Nvidia RTX 4070 Super FE // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B x2 // Royal Kludge RK100 // Logitech G Pro X Superlight // Sennheiser DROP PC38x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 30, 2020 Hey, guys. I just wanted to ask what would be the best way to tell if a 5700 or 5700XT is fake or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 30, 2020 MSI: Evoke (after fix), Mech (after fix) What do you mean by "after fix?" Fix what? I have a MSI Mech OC. and am having problems with it. Is there some fix I should know about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 30, 2020 On 3/19/2019 at 2:56 PM, LukeSavenije said: Credit to: @GoldenLag, @XR6 Disclaimer: This list only covers the GTX 1000 series, GTX 1600 series and RTX 2000 series for Nvidia, RX 500 series, 5700 and RX Vega for AMD. Cards are not prefered between AMD or Nvidia or any brand listed here. Notes may be included with some of the cards. Tiers are based on facts. We rate on known problems, vrm and cooling capacity. List is subject to change at any time, due to change in sources available. Italics: estimated possition *=best blower cards (use vapor chamber cooling) AMD (RX 57XX) Reveal hidden contents Tier S The best (Highest end PCB, exceeding cards) AMD: Reference with custom cooler Gigabyte: Aorus MSI: Gaming X Powercolor: Red Devil Sapphire: Nitro+ XFX: Thicc III Tier A High end (great cooling) Gigabyte: Gaming OC Sapphire: Pulse Powercolor: Red Dragon MSI: Evoke (after fix), Mech (after fix) XFX: Thicc II (after fix), RAW II (after fix) Tier B High-Midrange (midrange cooling) Asus: ROG Strix Asrock: Challenger, taichi Tier C Midrange (borderline cooler) MSI: Evoke, Mech XFX: Thicc II, RAW II Tier D Low-Midrange (hot running cards, can be solved with a 3rd party cooler or slight modifications) Asus: Founders/Blower, TUF X3 Asrock: Founders/Blower Gigabyte: Founders/Blower Powercolor: Founders/Blower MSI: Founders/Blower Sapphire: Founders/Blower XFX: Founders/Blower AMD (RX 5XX) Reveal hidden contents Tier A High end (great pcb, great cooler) Asus: ROG Strix, Arez Strix Gigabyte: Aorus, Aorus XTR Powercolor: Red Devil, Golden Sample Sapphire: Nitro+, Nitro+ SE Tier B High-Midrange (good cooler, decent pcb) Asrock: Phantom Gaming U, Phantom Gaming X Asus: (Arez) Dual, Expedition Gigabyte: Gaming (OC) MSI: Armor MK2, Gaming (X) Sapphire: Pulse XFX: Black, GTR-S, GTS, Black Core, XXX Tier C Midrange (meh cooler, good enough pcb) Asrock: Phantom Gaming D Diamond: D5 XFX: Fatboy Tier D Low-Midrange (hot running cards, can be solved with aftermarket cooler) AMD: Reference blower MSI: Armor, V1 Sapphire: Pulse ITX Visiontech: overclocked AMD (RX VEGA) Reveal hidden contents Tier A High end (Best cooled cards, great PCB) Powercolor: Red Devil Sapphire: Nitro+ Tier B High-Midrange (great cooled cards, good PCB) AMD: Liquid, Frontier liquid Asus: ROG Strix, Arez Strix (after fixes on vrm) Gigabyte: Watercooling HIS: Liquid MSI: Wave Powercolor: Red Dragon, liquid Sapphire: Pulse, liquid XFX: Liquid Tier C Midrange (okay cooled cards, okay pcb) AMD: VII reference Asus: VII reference Asrock: Phantom Gaming X VII Gigabyte: Gaming OC, VII reference Powercolor: AXVII Sapphire: VII reference XFX: VII reference Tier D Low-end (hot cards, can be solved with 3rd party cooler) AMD: Reference, Frontier Asrock: Phantom gaming X VEGA Gigabyte: Silver HIS: Air, limited MSI: Air Boost, iron, reference Powercolor: nano, limited, reference XFX: LDFF6 Nvidia (RTX 20xx/GTX 16xx) Reveal hidden contents Tier S The best (used for LN2 overclocking) EVGA: K|ngP|n Galax: HOF air/water KFA2: HOF air/water MSI: Lightning Z Tier A High end (great PCB, hybrid/watercooled cards) Asus: ROG Matrix, ROG Poseidon Evga: FTW3 Hybrid, XC Hybrid Gaming, FTW3 Hydro Copper Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme Waterforce MSI: Sea Hawk (X) Tier B High-Midrange (great PCB, high end cooler) Asus: ROG Strix Evga: FTW3 Ultra/Elite, XC Ultra, XC2 Ultra, FTW 3 Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme, Aorus Inno3D: iChill (Black) MSI: Gaming (X) Trio, Lightning X, Duke Zotac: AMP! Extreme (Core), AMP! Omega, AMP MAXX Tier C Midrange (good PCB, midrange cooler) Colorful: Vulcan X (OC) Evga: SC2, XC Black Galax: SG Gigabyte: Gaming OC, OC Black Nvidia: Founders MSI: Gaming Z, Armor, Gaming (X) Palit: (Super) Jetstream PNY: XLR8 Zotac: AMP Tier D Low-Midrange (okay cooled cards, decent enough pcb) Asus: Dual Galax: Dual, EXOC Snpr, EX Gainward: Phoenix (GS) Inno3D: Twinx2, Gaming OC Leadtek: Cyclone KFA2: OC, Dual Palit: GamePro, Gamerock (premium), Dual, StormX, Pegasus Zotac: Gaming Tier E: Low end (hot running cards, can be solved with aftermarket cooler) Asus: Turbo, Phoenix, LP Diamond: RX Evga: Gaming Galax: Blower, OC Mini Gigabyte: Turbo, Mini Itx OC Inno3D: Jet MSI: Aero, Ventus, ITX Palit: KalmX PNY: Blower Zotac: Blower, Mini, Low Profile Nvidia (GTX 10xx) Reveal hidden contents Tier S The best (used for LN2 overclocking) EVGA: K|ngP|n Galax: HOF KFA2: HOF MSI: Lightning X Tier A High end (great pcb, water/hybrid cooled) Asus: ROG Matrix, ROG Poseidon Corsair: Hydro Evga: FTW3 Hybrid, FTW3 Hydro Copper, SC2 Hybrid Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme Waterforce Inno3D: iChill X3 JEKYLL MSI: Sea Hawk X Tier B High-Midrange (great pcb, great aircooling) Asus: ROG Strix Evga: FTW3 Ultra, FTW3 Elite, FTW ACX 3.0, FTW ICX Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme, G1 Rock Inno3D: iChill Black Gigabyte: Aorus, Aorus Xtreme MSI: Gaming (X) Trio, Lightning Z, Duke Zotac: AMP! Extreme, AMP! Extreme Core Tier C Midrange (decent pcb, decent cooler) Colorful: Vulcan X, Vulcan X OC Evga: ICX, SC Black, SC2, SC2 Elite, SC ACX 2.0, SSC ACX 3.0, SSC, SSC2, FTW+ DT, FTW+ Galax: SG Gigabyte: G1 Gaming HIS: IceQ X² Turbo, IceQ X² Roaring Turbo Inno3D: Ichill Leadtek: Hurricane OC MSI: Gaming (X), Gaming Z Powercolor: Liquid Palit: Super Jetstream PNY: XLR8 Tier D Low-Midrange End (okay cooler, okay pcb) Asus: Dual, Expedition, Cerberus Galax: Dual, EXOC Snpr, EX, SG Gainward: Phoenix, Phoenix GS, Pegasos Gigabyte: Gaming OC, Windforce, OC Black, G1, D5 Inno3D: Twinx2, Gaming OC Leadtek: Hurricane, Cyclone KFA2: OC, Dual Palit: GamePro, Jetstream, Gamerock, Gamerock Premium Zotac: Gaming, Amp! Tier E Low End (hot running cards, some can be solved with 3rd party coolers) Asus: Turbo*, Phoenix, TUF, LP Diamond: RX Evga: Gaming Galax: Blower, Katana, OC LP, OC Mini Gigabyte: Turbo, Mini Itx OC, Silver, OC Low profile HIS: iCooler, Slim-iCooler Inno3D: Jet, Compact, 1-Slot Edition KFA2: Virtual look Leadtek: Classic, rev. B, Passive, Single fan MSI: Aero, ITX, Reference, Armor, LP Nvidia: Founders Edition* Palit: StormX, Pegasus, KalmX, Dual PNY: Blower Style, single fan Zotac: Blower, Mini, Low Profile Useful links: Reveal hidden contents https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-nvidia/1706276-official-nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-owner-s-club.html#/topics/1706276?page=1 (A binned chips or not) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SUo4dDiBYMEKw3Iv7s6UiDesQapBl9Nb2ZTie7URq78/edit?usp=drivesdk (sheet of 5700/5700XT cards) Notes: Reveal hidden contents You hate tier lists? don't use them. there are people who love them just for the simplicity of looking something up and go on, let those people have something (by @Crunchy Dragon) Update Log: Reveal hidden contents 19-03-2019: release 19-03-2019: added a couple EVGA cards 20-03-2019: changed name, moved cards 24-03-2019: moved some zotac cards 5-08-2019: moved reddragon 26-09-2019: re-arranged units, separated in series, added Navi cards 26-09-2019 (2): Palit StormX/Gainward Pegasos a tier up, removed Asrock out of vidia, temporary positions for nitro+/TUF x3/Taichi Hi, thanks for the post. It's very helpful. I've one question maybe you could elucidate the answer for me, I'm basically torn here on my next build, juggling options for graphics cards and I think that I have the candidates narrowed down, but let me know your opinion, I'm trying to decide between the 1070 TI or the 1660 TIE Fighter variant, which one provides the greatest boost speed? Thoughts on positives/negatives for both, I can pick one up used on ebay from the first order - Thabks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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