Why is nvidia slowing down my gpu

[JoshSigner]

So i have tested 2 different drivers

the lastest

417

and  the basic on that comes with windows

388.13

and for some reason 388.13 is a crap ton better\

i thought maybe if i update my driver it would get better performance  but when i opened games and played them on the new driver my fps was 15-10 lower then what it was on the

windows driver and i can't figure out why i don't know if its nvidia or what but i just would like to know. Why

 

GPU:GTX 1050

CPU I5 3470

RAM:16GB

 

 

[Brooksie359]

Sometimes nvidia drivers will set up presets for you graphics settings. This can make it seem like you are getting worse performance when really you just increased the graphical settings and caused a decrease in fps. I would make sure that the in game settings are the same when you do the 2 tests. 

[JoshSigner]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

Sometimes nvidia drivers will set up presets for you graphics settings. This can make it seem like you are getting worse performance when really you just increased the graphical settings and caused a decrease in fps. I would make sure that the in game settings are the same when you do the 2 tests. 

they have been 

i would go from getting 50-60 fps to

35-50

[JoshSigner]

2 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Sometimes nvidia drivers will set up presets for you graphics settings. This can make it seem like you are getting worse performance when really you just increased the graphical settings and caused a decrease in fps. I would make sure that the in game settings are the same when you do the 2 tests. 

and i don't use geforce experience 

[Mira Yurizaki]

Unless you actually have a need to update drivers, don't update drivers.

 

Otherwise if you really want to dig deep in this, you have to test every single WHQL certified driver release to find out exactly at which point there's a performance difference. There's been at least a dozen driver releases between the two versions you posted, each with at least a handful of "fixes."

[Enderman]

You probably didn't clean install the driver using DDU, or your windows install is old and has problems with the newer drivers.

[JoshSigner]

16 minutes ago, Enderman said:

You probably didn't clean install the driver using DDU, or your windows install is old and has problems with the newer drivers.

my windows install is just over 1 month old 

[aezakmi]

every time a new graphics card is released the drivers get heavier and use more resources. instead of creating a separate driver installation for EACH graphics card model they just bundle all of them in a single file and everything gets installed

I'd keep the old ones

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

every time a new graphics card is released the drivers get heavier and use more resources. instead of creating a separate driver installation for EACH graphics card model they just bundle all of them in a single file and everything gets installed

I'd keep the old ones

That is 100% BS.

 

[JoshSigner]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

That is 100% BS.

 

Nah it isn't its true... when i notice a difference in fps i think its true and when i reverted the driver my fps went back up so idk what is going on 

[Enderman]

2 minutes ago, JoshSigner said:

Nah it isn't its true... when i notice a difference in fps i think its true and when i reverted the driver my fps went back up so idk what is going on 

It's an issue with your OS or driver installation then, not the driver itself.

Consider the fact that there are tens of thousands of other people running the latest driver without issues, so you're the outlier.

[KarathKasun]

Depending on your GPU, the older driver could be ignoring the power limit as well.

 

I have seen this in some laptops, and to get performance back you can just bump up the power limit.

[GoodBytes]

Already experience this. You did nothing wrong.

It is not the first time that Nvidia rush drivers for their coming up or newly released graphics card to optimize those new graphics card with the popular games, or simply optimize new games, and break optimization or causes issues with older games and/or graphics cards.

 

Usually, Nvidia tend to fix this with the following drivers after people complain in their forum. See if others have the issue with the same graphics card.

be sure to mention your full system specs, and what games you are playing that have issues.

[Mira Yurizaki]

24 minutes ago, JoshSigner said:

Nah it isn't its true... when i notice a difference in fps i think its true and when i reverted the driver my fps went back up so idk what is going on 

There were like a dozen driver releases between the two versions you posted. If you want to prove your allegations, you'd have to test every single version to see if there's a breaking point between versions or a degradation in performance overall.

 

[aezakmi]

34 minutes ago, Enderman said:

That is 100% BS.

 

sponsored by nvidia

you gotta be fucking kidding me

[Enderman]

2 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

sponsored by nvidia

you gotta be fucking kidding me

Sponsored by squarespace and tunnelbear.

[KarathKasun]

29 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Sponsored by squarespace and tunnelbear.

You will never convince the conspiracy theorist.

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 hours ago, JoshSigner said:

So i have tested 2 different drivers

the lastest

417

and  the basic on that comes with windows

388.13

and for some reason 388.13 is a crap ton better\

i thought maybe if i update my driver it would get better performance  but when i opened games and played them on the new driver my fps was 15-10 lower then what it was on the

windows driver and i can't figure out why i don't know if its nvidia or what but i just would like to know. Why

 

GPU:GTX 1050

CPU I5 3470

RAM:16GB

 

 

Wipe off all your dirty old crappy driver installs with DDU in safe mode and reinstall fresh...you'll see...the latest driver is flawless with my 1080ti

[Tamesh16]

i think the addition is just new features for newer stuff, like new updates have dlss support and they run games a bit slower, but i also agree with @Brooksie359@Enderman installing new drivers can change a set of setting especially in nividia control panel, and also drivers can just not be great sometimes on your pc , and yeah it can depend on how both of those drivers you tested works with the version of windows you have 

so in essence too many variables to support that conclusion based on that test 

[JoshSigner]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Wipe off all your dirty old crappy driver installs with DDU in safe mode and reinstall fresh...you'll see...the latest driver is flawless with my 1080ti

Okay but you have a 1080ti i have 1050 and it's different with fps and if you had a lower end card and updating the driver lowered your fps i think you would stay with the old driver

[i_build_nanosuits]

7 minutes ago, JoshSigner said:

Okay but you have a 1080ti i have 1050 and it's different with fps and if you had a lower end card and updating the driver lowered your fps i think you would stay with the old driver

No I would first reinstall them fresh by first running DDU in safe mode like I told you

[xAcid9]

5 hours ago, JoshSigner said:

So i have tested 2 different drivers

the lastest

417

and  the basic on that comes with windows

388.13

and for some reason 388.13 is a crap ton better\

i thought maybe if i update my driver it would get better performance  but when i opened games and played them on the new driver my fps was 15-10 lower then what it was on the

windows driver and i can't figure out why i don't know if its nvidia or what but i just would like to know. Why

 

GPU:GTX 1050

CPU I5 3470

RAM:16GB

 

 

One logical reason is that 388.13 is pre-Spectre/Meltdown patch driver. It will perform better in CPU intensive games.

[SkilledRebuilds]

7 hours ago, JoshSigner said:

Okay but you have a 1080ti i have 1050 and it's different with fps and if you had a lower end card and updating the driver lowered your fps i think you would stay with the old driver

It's not..even if you HAVE a 1080Ti,.. you KNOW FPS wise where it should LAND...the ballpark window for Average FPS.
Like you know where your 1050Ti Lands.....FPS wise, because if you didn't know it,.. you wouldn't be here.

All PC owners..over time,.. experience "Base Line" performance degrade slightly due to OS/Driver/Software/System bloating over time.
Cleaning it up, forcing "refreshes" mitigate much of this.