Apple introduces a new battery case for their new iPhones.

[aezakmi]

iPhone battery after playing 1 song be like

 

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my battery after playing music all night because I fell asleep and didn't stopped the playlist

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[abazigal]

11 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

Because the cases themselves kind of negate all that effort put into trying to create the thinnest phone possible. Plus it looks extremely ridiculous compared to non Apple versions.

Not everyone is going to buy the battery case, that’s the whole point. 

 

When you increase the battery life, you also increase the thickness and the weight of the phone for everyone, even for those who otherwise have no issues with the battery life of their device. You can remove the battery case if you decide you have sufficient battery life and don’t need the added bulk. Conversely, I can’t tear away half the battery of a thicker iphone if I suddenly find it too bulky. 

 

And while the design of the battery case might seem unorthodox, it’s worth noting that Apple often leaves subtle clues in the design of their products. It’s pretty obvious why they went the way they did with the case. You have a hump so the top remains flexible, all the easier to remove and put it on, plus the battery won’t block the antanne and affect reception. 

 

There are the little system integrations, like the case automatically charging the phone without you needing to do anything, support for the battery widget, and the charging not triggering features that normally work when your device is charging, such as iCloud Photo Library sync. 

 

The design is actually pretty clever when you think about it. It may not be worth 3-4 times the price of a typical phone battery case, but it does have numerous small (but nice) refinements that you won’t find anywhere else. 

[Dabombinable]

6 minutes ago, abazigal said:

Not everyone is going to buy the battery case, that’s the whole point. 

 

When you increase the battery life, you also increase the thickness and the weight of the phone for everyone, even for those who otherwise have no issues with the battery life of their device. You can remove the battery case if you decide you have sufficient battery life and don’t need the added bulk. Conversely, I can’t tear away half the battery of a thicker iphone if I suddenly find it too bulky. 

 

And while the design of the battery case might seem unorthodox, it’s worth noting that Apple often leaves subtle clues in the design of their products. It’s pretty obvious why they went the way they did with the case. You have a hump so the top remains flexible, all the easier to remove and put it on, plus the battery won’t block the antanne and affect reception. 

 

There are the little system integrations, like the case automatically charging the phone without you needing to do anything, support for the battery widget, and the charging not triggering features that normally work when your device is charging, such as iCloud Photo Library sync. 

 

The design is actually pretty clever when you think about it. It may not be worth 3-4 times the price of a typical phone battery case, but it does have numerous small (but nice) refinements that you won’t find anywhere else. 

1. Apple for a while has been on a trend of thinner phones and smaller batteries. Them not making their phones any thinner doesn't increase the thickness and weight of the phone.

 

2. Even if the battery went all the way to the top, it'd still look ridiculous

 

3.You'll find third party battery banks that offer the same feature

 

4. How is the design clever in any way?

[Guest]

20 hours ago, 1kv said:

I think this is a useless product. It's ugly and it costs too much. It's a temporary remedy. It's like putting a bandaid on the problem. It's not a permanent fix whatsoever.

 

Conclusion

Another useless product that costs too much.

 

This is my first tech news thread so take everything I say with a pinch of salt.

I've added too much salt. I've ordered three cases. 

[abazigal]

1 hour ago, Dabombinable said:

1. Apple for a while has been on a trend of thinner phones and smaller batteries. Them not making their phones any thinner doesn't increase the thickness and weight of the phone.

 

2. Even if the battery went all the way to the top, it'd still look ridiculous

 

3.You'll find third party battery banks that offer the same feature

 

4. How is the design clever in any way?

It’s clever for all the reasons I just stated above. 

[Dabombinable]

4 minutes ago, abazigal said:

It’s clever for all the reasons I just stated above. 

You never stated what refinements...so how is the design clever?

[XR6]

4 hours ago, RorzNZ said:

I've added too much salt. I've ordered three cases. 

That's alright, it's your choice  

[D13H4RD]

Just so people know

 

The XS Max is as thick as a Galaxy S7. The XR is almost as thick as a Galaxy Note8. 

 

Thinness definitely isn't why the batteries are smaller in capacity compared to the equivalent Android. Smaller Android phones have had bigger batteries for a while. 

[79wjd]

27 minutes ago, D13H4RD said:

Just so people know

 

The XS Max is as thick as a Galaxy S7. The XR is almost as thick as a Galaxy Note8. 

 

Thinness definitely isn't why the batteries are smaller in capacity compared to the equivalent Android. Smaller Android phones have had bigger batteries for a while. 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the main reason is due to the huge haptic engine.

[D13H4RD]

2 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the main reason is due to the huge haptic engine.

More than that, actually.

 

Either down to how the interior is packaged or something else alongside the larger-than-usual vibration motor/haptic motor.

[williamcll]

You could buy another phone with that much money.

[vorticalbox]

On 1/16/2019 at 10:47 AM, firelighter487 said:

if the answer was always "just make it a bit thicker" at the end of the day you'd have a phone the size of a brick. 

I'm pretty sure putting a battery the size of a brick in a phone would be both dangerous and illegal.

[DrMacintosh]

On 1/16/2019 at 2:32 AM, 1kv said:

I think this is a useless product. It's ugly and it costs too much. It's a temporary remedy. It's like putting a bandaid on the problem. It's not a permanent fix whatsoever.

Apple should've just made the phone a little bit thicker and put a bigger battery in there.

The longest lasting batteries ever in an iPhone are in all 3 of these iPhone models. A bigger battery isn't going to permanently fix the fact that batteries need to be recharged. 

 

On 1/16/2019 at 2:32 AM, 1kv said:

If you're looking for a battery case, don't buy this. Buy a mophie juicepack. It's cheaper and looks better. While yes it makes your phone thicker, I would rather a thicker phone than an uglier phone.

Mophie Juicepacks also lack any smart features. As soon as you start charging an iPhone off of one, it acts as if it is being charged off a wall. Meaning heavy background tasks are fired up and the phone wastes more power than it otherwise would or should. These cases are also designed to boost the antennas and not block them, unlike Mophie and other battery cases. 

 

So while I would personally not buy one of these, they are the best smart battery cases on the market and they are not overpriced. 

 

[Techstorm970]

On 1/16/2019 at 3:39 AM, KnoT said:

Create a problem, sell a solution for that problem - Apple

Well, at least they create a solution at all.  It's not like they're Bethesda or EA trying to say "iT's A fEaTuRe!"

 

I actually think it's a brilliant idea, and I don't think it looks ugly.  Doesn't look much different from the phone cases with card holders on the back.  

 

Still wouldn't buy it, though.  Would never pay $130 for a friggin phone case!

[Jtalk4456]

Is it a good idea? Yes, that's why Mophie makes money.

Would I buy a battery case from Apple over Mophie? Nope.

Is that hump ugly? Yes.

Are they fixing their own problem? Yes

[XR6]

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

A bigger battery isn't going to permanently fix the fact that batteries need to be recharged. 

I never said that you'll never need to recharge a battery, I have no idea where you got that from.

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

So while I would personally not buy one of these, they are the best smart battery cases on the market

 

They are the best smart battery cases but that's because they're Apple. They purposely integrate all of the cool features into their product so you'll buy it over a 3rd party product.

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

they are not overpriced. 

That's down to opinion. I personally think £129 for a case is too much, even if it does have those features. I'd pay £75 at most for that case.

[Curufinwe_wins]

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

The longest lasting batteries ever in an iPhone are in all 3 of these iPhone models. A bigger battery isn't going to permanently fix the fact that batteries need to be recharged. 

 

Mophie Juicepacks also lack any smart features. As soon as you start charging an iPhone off of one, it acts as if it is being charged off a wall. Meaning heavy background tasks are fired up and the phone wastes more power than it otherwise would or should. These cases are also designed to boost the antennas and not block them, unlike Mophie and other battery cases. 

 

So while I would personally not buy one of these, they are the best smart battery cases on the market and they are not overpriced. 

 

Well actually... The 8+  beats both XS variants and original X. The 8 also beats all of those, and the SE beats the XS (while being effectively tied with the og X). No comment on where the XR fits in the spectrum. But I understand your point and don't directly disagree with it.

 

That video is bullshit btw. Overlooks literally hundreds of potential alternatives, just to feed his own distorted narrative.  Is it the 'best' smart battery case on the market for an iPhone? Probably. It certainly is if Apple explicitly chooses not to allow third party registration to know the device is plugged into a battery pack (yes that is possible. yes it is 100% Apple preventing others not them choosing not to).

 

I haven't seen RF reviews of this versus other battery packs to talk about the ACTUAL loss or non-loss of signal as a result. Personally, that is something I would very much like to see from reviews, but cases are 'boring' so I'm not sure we will. Until then, claiming it is just 'better for signal' is completely unsubstantiated.

 

The 'supplemental antenna features for cellular tellephone' thing? Yeah, a passively coupled antenna can literally be built into any case. In fact, it probably would be built into every one if Apple didn't patent what basically refers to a metal strip inside of a case. Or rather "Conductive structures for the antennas may, if desired, be formed from conductive electronic device structures"... AKA the shit already on the board. Which if you look at the teardowns of the OG smart case... is exactly what Apple did. There is no separate antenna element, the 'resonant structure' is simply the power circuitry on the board itself. 

 

Guess what? That same idea also works for any non-apple charging case. In fact, the only thing this patent actually does is prevent others from advertising the fact that their battery cases might have that side effect as well. The idea that having the battery in the exactly right shape is magical design, doesn't prevent others from doing the same... In fact, it would be asinine to assume they haven't been. You wouldn't want the battery all the way to the edges. That is unsafe (think crushed edges ala Note 7 fiasco). You wouldn't want the battery to go any higher on the phone, as then it would impede the camera. You don't want to design a double pouch battery to fill out that additional space, that would be much more expensive for marginal gains in size, AND since Apple's battery pack, as designed, needs some flex to attach and detach, a dual pouch design would also be unsafe practice.

 

 

They are ludicrously overpriced, and the only feature we can confirm they additionally provide is one that Apple intentionally gates away from others. But is it the best battery pack on the market for an iPhone... yeah probably. 

[DrMacintosh]

13 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

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[Sauron]

On 1/16/2019 at 11:47 AM, firelighter487 said:

if the answer was always "just make it a bit thicker" at the end of the day you'd have a phone the size of a brick.

I guess the answer is instead to sell that extra THICCness back to you in the most antiaesthetic and expensive way possible.

On 1/16/2019 at 4:13 PM, schwellmo92 said:

IThe iPhone SE also had one of the best battery life’s when it released,

Which proves apple is capable of making a phone that lasts longer, without making it a "brick", if they want to.

[DrMacintosh]

17 minutes ago, 1kv said:

I never said that you'll never need to recharge a battery, I have no idea where you got that from.

You think the iPhone battery life is too short, the only solutions to that problem are bigger batteries or a battery that never needs to be charged which are simply unrealistic goals. Making the iPhone thicker for a bigger battery also has marginal gains. The XR is one of the thickest iPhones to date and its battery is only an hour better than the XS. 

[DrMacintosh]

16 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

yes it is 100% Apple preventing others not them choosing not to).

 

And how does that change the user experience? The simple fact remains that you can't get another battery case that makes your phone stay in a minimal power consuming state. 

[Ashleyyyy]

Just now, Sauron said:

Which proves apple is capable of making a phone that lasts longer, without making it a "brick", if they want to.

perhaps. but the SE was just an iPhone 5S chassis with modern internals.

 

more modern and more power efficient cpu + better battery technology + older thicker chassis = great battery life.

[Arika]

Oh, these cases again 

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Which proves apple is capable of making a phone that lasts longer, without making it a "brick", if they want to.

Yeah sure, if you are ok with small "low res" screens, with big bezels. 

 

The iPhone 5SE only had a "good" battery life because of all of those things. Its battery was not massive, it was basically the iPhone 5 battery which was terrible. 

[Sauron]

2 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

perhaps. but the SE was just an iPhone 5S chassis with modern internals.

 

more modern and more power efficient cpu + better battery technology + older thicker chassis = great battery life.

Obviously not since the 6s had a lower battery life and clearly it's gotten worse, or this wouldn't exist.