Rx Vega hits SiSoft Sandra, 35% faster than gtx 1080.

[Master Disaster]

Only 8GB Vram?

[Valentyn]

24 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Well, that's not entirely true. All gp100 chips support full rate fp64 (1/2)

 

The other cards still support it, but only at 1/32 the rate of fp32, making it essentially useless.  

Amd has also been cutting down fp64 the last few gens to conserve die space, but to a lesser extent ( hawaii had 1/8, both gcn 1.2 and polaris have 1/16). 

Ironically, the hd7970/280x still has the best fp64 performance in amd's entire consumer lineup. 

 

But then again, amd's current lineup can't touch nvidia when it comes to geometry performance. 

 

I know GP100 supports, it, they're not consumer cards now are they though? Not a single GeForce GP100 out there. Yet.

Also you're just repeating what I said after that haha.

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21 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Only 8GB Vram?

I've heard nothing on the subject yet but that's been my guess

[RagnarokDel]

1 hour ago, Liltrekkie said:

Oh cool, another modern heater! 

 

Just kidding haha.

 

Seriously though, I wonder what affect HBM has on die size, I also wonder what these revisions mean, clock speed boosts? Enabling more feature? Figuring out power requirements or usage?? 

 

I feel like vega 10 could be similar to the 1080TI or just a few percent under it. Even if Vega was 3-8% "slower" if it was priced right, it would be a very good buy. 

Green stuff was the HBM on the Fury

 

1 hour ago, jasonc_01 said:

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-rx-vega-sisoft-benchmarks

 

When the RX 480 sisoft benchmark were leaked, it was at 800 mhz. The boost clock at launch was 1266.

[Memories4K]

1 hour ago, jasonc_01 said:

The 1080ti is still 25% ahead of the this new Vega test in Sandra

Sure but, simply using this benchmark, RX VEGA will be much closer to a 1080ti than a 1080; depending on the pricing, this GPU could dominate

[DarkBlade2117]

2 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Which sadly isn't anywhere near enough for it to be competitive, considering vega 10 is around 530mm², compared to gp 102 at 471mm², on a less dense node. Plus, the 1080ti isn't even a fully active chip. 

Unless the final retail chip is faster ofc. 

Depends on price.. if it is priced at $500 are you REALLY going to buy a 1080Ti for $200 more with slightly better thermals and power efficiency?

[Memories4K]

42 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Only 8GB Vram?

8GB of HBM2 is not at all bad to me.
Although depending on your needs and the pricing, the 1080ti might be a much better value GPU compared to VEGA if this is a concern.

[Memories4K]

Remember lads, don't fall for the meme.
Given how the FURY/FURY-X turned out, VEGA's definitely not gonna be any:
O V E R C L O C K E R ' S
D R E A M

[ivan134]

5 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

Remember lads, don't fall for the meme.
Given how the FURY/FURY-X turned out, VEGA's definitely not gonna be any:
O V E R C L O C K E R ' S
D R E A M

They only said they about the water cooler it came with though. And going by the nitro fury, Fiji is not a bad overclocker. The reference PCB is just ass.

[suicidalfranco]

gr8, more rumour mill, y w8 4 th3 launch when u can hype yourself with just rumours 

[goodtofufriday]

1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

So Vega is 35% faster than a 1080, and the 1080 Ti is 35% faster than a 1080, but the 1080 Ti is 25% faster than Vega?  Am I missing something...?

Just from what i seen i think itll be landing squarely in between both. 

Price is really the main concern at this point imo. 

[Sakkura]

1 hour ago, Master Disaster said:

Only 8GB Vram?

"only"

 

Plenty for basically anything currently on the market.

12 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

They only said they about the water cooler it came with though. And going by the nitro fury, Fiji is not a bad overclocker. The reference PCB is just ass.

It was still poor communication. AMD need to do more than get their products right, they also need the communication and PR to be on point.

[RagnarokDel]

11 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

gr8, more rumour mill, y w8 4 th3 launch when u can hype yourself with just rumours 

People who use numbers instead of words should be banned from these forums.

[Coaxialgamer]

43 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

Depends on price.. if it is priced at $500 are you REALLY going to buy a 1080Ti for $200 more with slightly better thermals and power efficiency?

I'm not talking purely from the consumer's standpoint. Amd will make significantly less money than nvidia if they price such a large chip at less than the 1080.

It's also just disappointing from an engineering point of view. 

[DocSwag]

3 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Which sadly isn't anywhere near enough for it to be competitive, considering vega 10 is around 530mm², compared to gp 102 at 471mm², on a less dense node. Plus, the 1080ti isn't even a fully active chip. 

Unless the final retail chip is faster ofc. 

Could be that vega has substantially more fp64 horsepower than GP102, though only time will tell us that.

[yian88]

The real question now, is Sisoftware sandra synthetic benchmark or its like 3d mark benchmarks? if its synthetic bench, 35% is a joke.

Anyway speculations again , when will these ever stop.

[App4that]

4 hours ago, Prysin said:

@App4that

yo, cry. now.

Hold on, I'm overclocking my 1800x to 5GHz like the leaked benchmarks. Don't want to mess this up. 

[themctipers]

V E G A 

V E G A 

V E G A

 

 

wait shit , i bought my 1070 for $600

 

 

shitshitshitshit aaaa

[juri-han]

3 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

idk, I just remember that being the number that was thrown around.  But if that is true, then the current numbers make even less sense.

bitwit did a whole video on the 35%

 

 

 

[juri-han]

3 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

Only 8GB Vram?

AMD did a whole big thing their use of HBM2 during last event, like GDDR5 will only use half while vegas HBM2 will use ovr 80% effectively doubling it, so that 8 gigs of hbm2 is really closer to 16 gigs of GDDR5

[AlTech]

10 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Which sadly isn't anywhere near enough for it to be competitive, considering vega 10 is around 530mm², compared to gp 102 at 471mm², on a less dense node. Plus, the 1080ti isn't even a fully active chip. 

EDIT:

 

Soz. Realized I was wrong.

 

The fact that the GTX Titan XP is not fully enabled is quite sad for the price people pay.

[Doobeedoo]

The 8GB HBM2 though. Can't wait to see that running. Though I wonder will there be 16GB model too.

[Memories4K]

2 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

I'm not talking purely from the consumer's standpoint. Amd will make significantly less money than nvidia if they price such a large chip at less than the 1080.

It's also just disappointing from an engineering point of view. 

If i remember correctly, it's not that much more to manufacture a 480 than a 460.

In this case, it'll be a bit more since HBM2 but i'm pretty sure AMD can still make a hefty profit and more importantly eat at the market share that Nvidia has a hold of.

[Memories4K]

1 hour ago, juri-han said:

 so that 8 gigs of hbm2 is really closer to 16 gigs of GDDR5

This myth needs to die

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4 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

This myth needs to die

what myth?  Who ever believed that?