ELSA launches a single slot GTX1050Ti

[Senzelian]

8 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

The reason why some will want to water cool their cards.

How are you going to fit a 1080 with a waterblock, pump, radiator and tubing into something, that is thinner than a Node 202?....

[MageTank]

10 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

The reason why some will want to water cool their cards.

 

I wasn't talking about cost. And current high-end card aren't true single slot due to that extra DVI port, there won't be getting a ITX with SLI anytime soon.

 

This is a DTX, a idea came up by AMD. Too bad it didn't spread out to the DIY market.

 

I have buddies that already SLI on ITX machines. My board even supports it (SLI riser support). Whether or not it's practical is a different story. 

[NumLock21]

7 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

How are you going to fit a 1080 with a waterblock, pump, radiator and tubing into something, that is thinner than a Node 202?....

That a HTPC desktop, not a ITX tower, so nothing will fit.

6 minutes ago, MageTank said:

I have buddies that already SLI on ITX machines. My board even supports it (SLI riser support). Whether or not it's practical is a different story. 

So your single slot ITX allows the lanes to be split into x8/x8?

[Richtofen_]

Its literally bigger than the tiny ITX GPUs.

 

RIPOFF!!! 

[Senzelian]

4 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

That a HTPC desktop, not a ITX tower, so nothing will fit.

What the hell are you even talking about? You said 1080s and 1070s would fit in small cases, too that a single slot 1050Ti would fit in, which is not true. 

[NumLock21]

1 minute ago, Senzelian said:

What the hell are you even talking about? You said 1080s and 1070s would fit in small cases, too that a single slot 1050Ti would fit in, which is not true. 

A single 1070 or 1080 can fit into a Node 202, cause there are 2 i/o slots on the case.

[vanished]

Never heard of that company.  Well, this sounds like a good idea regardless.  I remember when all but the top of the line GPUs were single slot, and these days, it seems like the default to 2 unless they're absolutely bottom tier.

[NumLock21]

1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Never heard of that company.  Well, this sounds like a good idea regardless.  I remember when all but the top of the line GPUs were single slot, and these days, it seems like the default to 2 unless they're absolutely bottom tier.

ELSA is a popular brand on the other side of the planet. Same with Sparkle.

[WkdPaul]

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Keep it civil AND on-topic.

[Mira Yurizaki]

6 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

What is the point of a single slot 1050ti? Who is going to run a custom loop with a 1050Ti. Why can't 1080 and 1070 be single slots? In fact they can still be a dual slot card, just have 1 DVI ports, instead of 2, cause that's where the problem is.

The last single slot card that was on a high performance GPU was 125W TDP. The GTX 1070 and 1080 have a base TDP of 150W and 180W respectively, and when boosted, can go up to 189W and 202W. Even though the GTX 1060 has a base TDP of 120W, it boosts up to 144W for the 3GB version and 159W for the 6GB version.

 

The GTX 1050 is the only one that can comfortably use a single slot since its TDP is 75W.

 

That's the problem.

 

As for why the other companies are putting two slot coolers on it? Because EXTREME GAMING TECHNOLOGY MUST BE EXTREME.

[NumLock21]

13 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

The last single slot card that was on a high performance GPU was 125W TDP. The GTX 1070 and 1080 have a base TDP of 150W and 180W respectively, and when boosted, can go up to 189W and 202W. Even though the GTX 1060 has a base TDP of 120W, it boosts up to 144W for the 3GB version and 159W for the 6GB version.

 

The GTX 1050 is the only one that can comfortably use a single slot since its TDP is 75W.

 

That's the problem.

 

As for why the other companies are putting two slot coolers on it? Because EXTREME GAMING TECHNOLOGY MUST BE EXTREME.

What does the power limit of a PCIe slot has anything to do with the physical width of a video card? If current cards like the 1070 or 1080, can't be cooled by a single width cooler then water cool it.

 

MSI GTX 1080 EK Seahawk. A single slot video card, but that DVI port on the 2nd bracket, forces it as a dual slot card. If that DVI wasn't there, you'll have a true single slot card.

 

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

What does the power limit of a PCIe slot has anything to do with the physical width of a video card? If current cards can't be cooled by a single width cooler then water cool it.

If you want to go that route, then why bother manufacturing an entire SKU of cards (which requires another set of tooling) for essentially <0.001% of your user base?

 

If you go "but what about those Classified cards meant for extreme overclockers? Aren't they peanuts of percentage of the user base?" The Classified cards, or other "extreme high end" cards have the same design and use the same tooling as the rest of the lineup, and would not cost that much more to make.

 

Decreasing the variability of your supply chain is a non-trivial money saver.

[NumLock21]

5 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

If you want to go that route, then why bother manufacturing an entire SKU of cards (which requires another set of tooling) for essentially <0.001% of your user base?

 

If you go "but what about those Classified cards meant for extreme overclockers? Aren't they peanuts of percentage of the user base?" The Classified cards, or other "extreme high end" cards have the same design and use the same tooling as the rest of the lineup, and would not cost that much more to make.

 

Decreasing the variability of your supply chain is a non-trivial money saver.

more choice for enthusiast.

 

MSI GTX 1080 EK Seahawk. It would be a true single slot, if it wasn't for the 2nd DVI port.

 

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

more choice for enthusiast.

 

MSI GTX 1080 EK Seahawk. It would be a true single slot, if it wasn't for the 2nd DVI port.

 

MSI can save money by taking an existing card they already made and tested, say a Gaming X card, and replace the heat sink with a water block.

 

Also I believe more choice is automatically not better. More choices breeds indecision. There's already a half dozen SKUs from everyone for each GTX 1080 and people are constantly asking "WHICH ONE IS BETTER!?!?!?!111" when they're pretty much all the same

[NumLock21]

6 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

MSI can save money by taking an existing card they already made and tested, say a Gaming X card, and replace the heat sink with a water block.

 

Also I believe more choice is automatically not better. More choices breeds indecision. There's already a half dozen SKUs from everyone for each GTX 1080 and people are constantly asking "WHICH ONE IS BETTER!?!?!?!111" when they're pretty much all the same

If one was to ask which 1080s better, then they're better off just buying the card, that's best for their budget.

[DrMikeNZ]

11 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

MSI GTX 1080 EK Seahawk. It would be a true single slot, if it wasn't for the 2nd DVI port.

As far as I am aware that card only had the one DVI port. Although they could have just have easily made it single slot by not soldering the DVI port on and included a DP to DVI adapter in the box.

[Misanthrope]

7 hours ago, Mohenjo said:

i would prefer a low profile tbh. 

We have that too, at least announced.

 

Now we need low profile and single slot. Not sure if someone can figure that out maybe if you can put 3 really tiny noctua fans they could handle the tdp on such a reduced space.

[Prysin]

20 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

What is the point of a single slot 1050ti? Who is going to run a custom loop with a 1050Ti. Why can't 1080 and 1070 be single slots? In fact they can still be a dual slot card, just have 1 DVI ports, instead of 2, cause that's where the problem is.

 

19 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

The reason why some will want to water cool their cards.

 

I wasn't talking about cost. And current high-end card aren't true single slot due to that extra DVI port, there won't be getting a ITX with SLI anytime soon.

 

This is a DTX, a idea came up by AMD. Too bad it didn't spread out to the DIY market.

 

 

That is the point of this

[NumLock21]

1 minute ago, Prysin said:

 

That is the point of this

It doesn't support sli and if it does, who will sli them anyway. For mulit monitor setup, in productivity use case scenario it's too expensive. And a nvidia gt card on onboard can do the same job, for a lot less. 

[Prysin]

3 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

It doesn't support sli and if it does, who will sli them anyway. For mulit monitor setup, in productivity use case scenario it's too expensive. And a nvidia gt card on onboard can do the same job, for a lot less. 

I know.
Also, many SFF chassis only has single or dual slot. This would be very nice for single slot.

[NumLock21]

2 minutes ago, Prysin said:

I know.
Also, many SFF chassis only has single or dual slot. This would be very nice for single slot.

And use it for what purpose?

[Prysin]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

And use it for what purpose?

ello? A 1050Ti is still faster then all iGPUs on the market, and cost less then any single slot solution with more performance....

[NumLock21]

2 minutes ago, Prysin said:

ello? A 1050Ti is still faster then all iGPUs on the market, and cost less then any single slot solution with more performance....

So basically for those who are into casual, light games like SIMS.

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

So basically for those who are into casual, light games like SIMS.

I think you can play far more games, I mean a mini-itx with one of these would still be superior to any console while being as close as possible to a console in mobility... we are just too used to go full high end and rock ultras and ends up neglecting these smart solutions for some other markets [:

[michaelocarroll007]

21 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

What is the point of a single slot 1050ti? Who is going to run a custom loop with a 1050Ti. Why can't 1080 and 1070 be single slots? In fact they can still be a dual slot card, just have 1 DVI ports, instead of 2, cause that's where the problem is.

 Just cut the 1 DVI off?  Feel like thats not a big deal at all for those who are going to custom watercool and such. Even linus has shown how to do this in a video before