AMD Ryzen reference coolers leaked (and confirmed)

[Fetzie]

13 minutes ago, Mihle said:

They do at least look much better than Intel stock cooler

You're not exactly setting the bar high there

[Droidbot]

2 minutes ago, Fetzie said:

You're not exactly setting the bar high there

Motherfuckers even removed the big copper slug in the middle this year. Like saving 3c does much for their bottom line.

[malon]

Atleast it isn't ugly, now lets hope it can be dimmed, keeps the cpu cool and isn't as loud as a jet engine.

[Mihle]

2 hours ago, Fetzie said:

You're not exactly setting the bar high there

I know

[Vode]

22 hours ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Pleb? Go back to school kiddo, your 4790K is absolutely nothing when you could be like me and have a 5820K  

#extremei7masterrace 

Meh. Your CPU is like mine but 2 cores don't work. You call yourself #masterrace? lolkthxbye ?

[CaptainGazzz]

They look lit af

[Jahramika]

On 2/11/2017 at 10:02 AM, Bouzoo said:

Yes yes, they all look cool and all, but how will they perform? If it's AMD and their "50C at idle is acceptable", well it isn't. I want real numbers, not wraith leaks. We all know how AMD and leaks work.

You want real numbers Ryzen 0.9V to Kaby Lake 1.4V plus deliding if you want to over clock well and void your warrenty.

[Bouzoo]

1 minute ago, Jahramika said:

You want real numbers Ryzen 0.9V to Kaby Lake 1.4V plus deliding if you want to over clock well and void your warrenty.

Those are not real (temp) numbers. Voltage doesn't really mean much in this case. 

[ace_cheaply]

8 hours ago, Vode said:

Meh. Your CPU is like mine but 2 cores don't work. You call yourself #masterrace? lolkthxbye ?

Hah, your GPU is like mine but puny and weak.  Fite me irl. 

[Belgarathian]

I didn't want to board the #ryzenhypetrain but they've just done everything so. damn. well.

 

I'd use those stock coolers in a build, no problem.

[Notional]

These coolers look pretty damn sweet. Although I do reckon most will use after market anyways. And most enthusiasts would probably buy the x versions without a cooler. Then again, for cheaper builds, it's really nice, and you save the money for the obligatory 212 EVO. Sweet.

 

20 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

I thought his testing was pretty fucking flawed: almost nobody would use this fans open air and inside a case well, the case itself could negate much of this effect specially if it's narrow enough. 

 

Testing airflow on open air is useless if you ask me. 

Huh? The shroud design means less air will be forced through the radiator. Whether it's inside a case or outside has no influence on that.

[Misanthrope]

1 hour ago, Notional said:

Huh? The shroud design means less air will be forced through the radiator. Whether it's inside a case or outside has no influence on that.

The shroud on the radiator would be right against the case wall or other features on some cases so how can you possibly say that? You can put a fan without any shroud at all if it's tightly surrounded by case walls on all sides it would make no difference.

[HelplmChoking]

On 2/12/2017 at 4:02 AM, Bouzoo said:

Yes yes, they all look cool and all, but how will they perform? If it's AMD and their "50C at idle is acceptable", well it isn't. I want real numbers, not wraith leaks. We all know how AMD and leaks work.

 

50C idle on my Xeon dude. 

[Notional]

2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

The shroud on the radiator would be right against the case wall or other features on some cases so how can you possibly say that? You can put a fan without any shroud at all if it's tightly surrounded by case walls on all sides it would make no difference.

Idk why you think so, but that is entirely incorrect. Shrouds are there to prevent air from being pushed sideways, instead of downwards. Within basic physics, anything will always move the path of least resistance. That is sideways for a lot of air. That's why modern planes have winglets, usually upwards on their wings, to control the sideways vortex. A fan without a shroud will have a massive vortex around the entire edge of the fan, like a donut.

 

A 1mm gap is more than enough for air to escape, or be pulled through. It's why negative pressure in cases are bad, as air will be sucked in through everything, including USB ports, causing them to fill up with dust. So a case wall being 3cm away has no effect what so ever on the static pressure by the fan.

[Misanthrope]

11 minutes ago, Notional said:

Idk why you think so, but that is entirely incorrect.

Cannot be entirely incorrect until testing on cases is done. What you're doing looks to me that is just grossly overestimating the effect this would have for the purposes of static pressure in this environment.

 

But beyond that like I said, I am the one saying "more testing needed to be done" and not only that but accurate fucking testing not just bullshit smoke for the purposes of B-roll, yet you're saying "Nope, incorrect cause physics, no need to test"

[Notional]

2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Cannot be entirely incorrect until testing on cases is done. What you're doing looks to me that is just grossly overestimating the effect this would have for the purposes of static pressure in this environment.

 

But beyond that like I said, I am the one saying "more testing needed to be done" and not only that but accurate fucking testing not just bullshit smoke for the purposes of B-roll, yet you're saying "Nope, incorrect cause physics, no need to test"

It has been tested. By NASA, every single airplane manufacturer still in business, Every single formula 1 team today, almost all car manufacturers, etc. Fluid dynamics don't change because it's a plastic fan in a pc. EVGA made a dumb design, that makes no sense, and I have no clue why. But if the point of the fan is to blow air straight out to the other side, and not sideways, you'll need a shroud. Especially when the fan needs to be high static to force air through the radiator.

 

Of course, I have no clue if the difference is tangible enough to make the temperature different; or if there are too many other factors. But it doesn't change the facts that it's a bad design, that forces the fan to run at a higher speed to move as much air as a better designed on.

[Misanthrope]

3 minutes ago, Notional said:

It has been tested.

Nasa didn't test this fans, give it up.

[Notional]

1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

Nasa didn't test this fans, give it up.

Physics principles are universal. Fluid dynamics don't change because it says EVGA on the fan. 

[Misanthrope]

1 minute ago, Notional said:

Physics principles are universal. Fluid dynamics don't change because it says EVGA on the fan. 

The specific impact and how much it fucking matters to radiator performance will and since you refuse to give it up you leave me no choice.

[Prysin]

43 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

The shroud on the radiator would be right against the case wall or other features on some cases so how can you possibly say that? You can put a fan without any shroud at all if it's tightly surrounded by case walls on all sides it would make no difference.

Yes it will. Circular fan in square box is useless. No more efficient than a table fan placed outside of the case,  trying to blow into it

[Misanthrope]

1 minute ago, Prysin said:

Yes it will. Circular fan in square box is useless. No more efficient than a table fan placed outside of the case,  trying to blow into it

Exactly the kind of thing a youtuber should fucking test and measure to demonstrate. But what am I saying? Asking for proper testing on LTT which hasn't done proper fucking testing in like 2 years or 3.

[Prysin]

2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Exactly the kind of thing a youtuber should fucking test and measure to demonstrate. But what am I saying? Asking for proper testing on LTT which hasn't done proper fucking testing in like 2 years or 3.

You will get airflow without a shroud. But static pressure will end mere mm from the fanblade

[Space Reptile]

On 11.2.2017 at 10:04 PM, TheRandomness said:

Now if they make a 35W one less than 27mm tall I'm cancelling my AR04 order and waiting for them to start appearing on eBay for me to ziptie to the motherboard. Because hot damn they look good for stock coolers.

the stock coolers will 99% use the standard latch , go on ebay and look for this cheapo cooler 

it uses the same latch , but to mount on an intel board comes w/ an adapter plate , i bought that cooler ONLY for that adapter (wich is for intel 77X/115X) 

[JohnnyCorporalTech]

I am still surprised that Intel did not release an updated cooler after the Wraith cooler was released, maybe this will be more of an incentive.

[SCHISCHKA]

mean im gona do a red theme build if the new APUs have good performance