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zMeul

rumor has it id just removed Denuvo DRM from Doom (2016)

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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP

source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1323084

 

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People have analyzed the last patch for DOOM and it seems Denuvo has been removed.

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I really hope other developers get their heads out of their collective asses and never use this shit again

it took time, but Denuvo got cracked in the end and Doom was one of it's "victims" - DRM doesn't prevent piracy, it hurts sales

 

ps: Doom Update 5 was released yesterday https://steamcommunity.com/games/379720/announcements/detail/585862749595357814 

but there's nothing in the patch notes relating to this DMR change

 

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Yeah! Learn from CdProjektRed. It actually is better for you in the long run to not fight pirating tooth and nail


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Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

Are we allowed to talk about piracy in the forum?

in this way we are. We are not sharing instructions on how to crack & pirate.

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Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

Are we allowed to talk about piracy in the forum?

one thing is to talk about piracy and quite another to distribute pirated stuff

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2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Are we allowed to talk about piracy in the forum?

I think as long as we dont encourage it or provide links, it is ok. But I could be wrong 


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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Yeah! Learn from CdProjektRed. It actually is better for you in the long run to not fight pirating tooth and nail

 

Why tho I don't seem to understand. Is it just that peoeple boycott and doesn't buy the game as a whole?

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1 minute ago, zMeul said:

I openly encourage it

Why should you encourage it is very difficult for developers to keep creating stuff if there sales drop because of piracy. I want them to keep making good games so I absolutely don't encourage it. 


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2 minutes ago, Mark17 said:

Why should you encourage it is very difficult for developers to keep creating stuff if there sales drop because of piracy. I want them to keep making good games so I absolutely don't encourage it. 

ZMeul is a bad troll.

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Why should you encourage it is very difficult for developers to keep creating stuff if there sales drop because of piracy. I want them to keep making good games so I absolutely don't encourage it. 

"piracy" does not hurt sales in any way shape or form

since the very beginning of this phenomenon, there is absolutely no hard evidence to prove it hurts sales - none whatsoever

 

people who "pirate" are people who would otherwise not bough the game in the 1st place

there are exceptions, but this is the main force behind why this phenomenon exists

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Just now, Kloaked said:

ZMeul is a bad troll.

Are there any good trolls? :P


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1 minute ago, Mark17 said:

Are there any good trolls? :P

Yes, the funny ones.

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4 minutes ago, zMeul said:

"piracy" does not hurt sales in any way shape or form

since the very beginning of this phenomenon, there is absolutely no hard evidence to prove it hurts sales - none whatsoever

 

people who "pirate" are people who would otherwise not bough the game in the 1st place

there are exceptions, but this is the main force behind why this phenomenon exists

This is bs if they take the time to pirate the game they must really want to play it. so if piracy was not possible there would always have been a chance that they would buy it.


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3 minutes ago, Mark17 said:

This is bs if they take the time to pirate the game they must really want to play it. so if piracy was not possible there would always have been a change that they would buy it.

why do you think people take to G2A, Kinguin for reduced price keys? because of the $ problem

 

gray market is a far bigger problem that actually hurts the publisher / developer

 

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was it PC Gamer that did a survey few months back on the "piracy" issue?!?

what they found is "piracy" is predominant in low income regions and way less spread in rich ones - but there's one common reason people "pirate" ... price

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5 minutes ago, zMeul said:

"piracy" does not hurt sales in any way shape or form

since the very beginning of this phenomenon, there is absolutely no hard evidence to prove it hurts sales - none whatsoever

 

people who "pirate" are people who would otherwise not bough the game in the 1st place

there are exceptions, but this is the main force behind why this phenomenon exists

That is very flawed logic. If you dont want to pay for the game, dont get it! I for one know many people who would have bought a particular game, but instead chose to pirate. If you wanted a coke, you wouldnt just walk in to a store and steal it. You would either buy it or live with not having it. Piracy is no different from theft. 


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2 minutes ago, zMeul said:

 

was it PC Gamer that did a survey few months back on the "piracy" issue?!?

what they found is "piracy" is predominant in low income regions and way less spread in rich ones - but there's one common reason people "pirate" ... price

exactly.... if you cant afford it, sucks! Work and save up money like the rest of us!


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1 minute ago, zMeul said:

why do you think people take to G2A, Kinguin for reduced price keys? because of the $ problem

 

gray market is a far bigger problem that actually hurts the publisher / developer

I don't now much about how these retailers hurt developers but if this is true then this and piracy should need to stop if you don't have the money you just have to wait like everyone else till its price reduces or is on sale or just save some money like any normal people would do.


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10 minutes ago, zMeul said:

"piracy" does not hurt sales in any way shape or form

since the very beginning of this phenomenon, there is absolutely no hard evidence to prove it hurts sales - none whatsoever

 

people who "pirate" are people who would otherwise not bough the game in the 1st place

there are exceptions, but this is the main force behind why this phenomenon exists

there is evidence. publishers and developers say there is a two week window to make your money and then sales tank when its cracked.


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5 minutes ago, Mark17 said:

normal people would do.

I suggest you get out of your bubble and discover The World

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4 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

developers say

other than words? no there isn't

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8 minutes ago, zMeul said:

why do you think people take to G2A, Kinguin for reduced price keys? because of the $ problem

 

gray market is a far bigger problem that actually hurts the publisher / developer

Why? I bought a key to the games in a Humble Bundle, where the developer puts his digital keys into the pot, and I already had the game. Should I let it collect dust? No! I can gift it to someone or sell the key for some money back. I actually paid for their key and sold it to someone else.


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14 minutes ago, Mark17 said:

This is bs if they take the time to pirate the game they must really want to play it. so if piracy was not possible there would always have been a chance that they would buy it.

i wanted to buy fallout 4 when it came out. than came the age limit and i couldn't get it, so i had no choice but to pirate it instead(getting on steam too expensive).


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9 minutes ago, bgibbz said:

Piracy is no different from theft. 

piracy is not theft

 

distribution of a game is a copy of a copy

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