Gigabyte accidentally confirms more Ampere SKUs, 3080 20GB, 3070 16GB & 3060 8GB

[Tristerin]

3 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

Hot Take:

 

1. 3080 10gb models hyped up as $699

2. 3080 10gb model made in limited quantities, intentionally

3. 3080 20gb models release more RAM and faster clocks, AIB only, phasing out 10gb models.

4. 3080 20gb models are $900 for the basic ones, $1100 for the better cooler variants

5. 3080 10gb models were never intended for mass sale, and were intended to be marketing hype to claim they sold cards for $699

6. Nvidia laughs to the bank while managing to charge people yet again $1100 for a 2080 ti +20% replacement while claiming it was $699.

 

Like auto ads with $19,999 car but only one and the rest are all $29,999

I agree with the artist formerly know as Plutosaurus

[Deli]

6 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

Id say its primarily about cost. GDDR6 Cost around 12$ per GB, GDDR6X should cost around 20-26$ Per GB if going by the Doubling of cost per Generation (GDDR5 was 6$ per) so instead of costing 200$ for the 10 GB, would you have paid another 150$+ for another 6 GB of Vram? For the vast majority of people thats going to be a No, 700$ is already pretty expensive, going to 850-900 for the "Flagship" Would be bad for them since they already saw how little the 2080TI sold before Qurantine and the 2080/2070. They also pretty much know how much VRAM is going to be needed for most games, and if they need they will put more on the more expensive models.

We'll see if Nvidia decides whether to release the 3070 and 3080 with more VRAM later. And how well they sell.

[Jet_ski]

3 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

Hot Take:

 

1. 3080 10gb models hyped up as $699

2. 3080 10gb model made in limited quantities, intentionally

3. 3080 20gb models release more RAM and faster clocks, AIB only, phasing out 10gb models.

4. 3080 20gb models are $900 for the basic ones, $1100 for the better cooler variants

5. 3080 10gb models were never intended for mass sale, and were intended to be marketing hype to claim they sold cards for $699

6. Nvidia laughs to the bank while managing to charge people yet again $1100 for a 2080 ti +20% replacement while claiming it was $699.

 

Like auto ads with $19,999 car but only one and the rest are all $29,999

100% agree. Nvidia was never going to sell us the RTX 3080 at $699 or the RTX 3090 at $1,499. Even at the announcement I thought there’s gotta be a catch.

 

If they had any intention of lowering prices, they wouldn’t still be asking $2400 for Titan which performs roughly the same as the 3090.

 

My question is whether LTT and all these other tech journalists and YouTubers will speak out against Nvidia for using them like this.

[Shimejii]

1 minute ago, Deli said:

We'll see if Nvidia decides whether to release the 3070 and 3080 with more VRAM later. And how well they sell.

Already confirmed by Gigabyte, 3070S with 16 GB of GDDR6 and 3080S with 20 GB of GDDR6x. The 3070s Should be around 600-650, the 3080S will be 899 or 999 more then likely

[Deli]

Just now, Shimejii said:

Already confirmed by Gigabyte, 3070S with 16 GB of GDDR6 and 3080S with 20 GB of GDDR6x. 

Until Nvidia officially announce them. I won't say it's confirmed.

[GoodBytes]

4 hours ago, DildorTheDecent said:

The 3080 FE and 3090 FE use the same PCB.

We will know once the GPU is released.

[Mister Woof]

20 minutes ago, Deli said:

Until Nvidia officially announce them. I won't say it's confirmed.

Yeah, Lenovo has done some similar stuff that was just plain wrong before. We'll wait and see. So we know these companies can mess up.

 

But for now it seems plausible at least.

[Blademaster91]

3 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

Hot Take:

 

1. 3080 10gb models hyped up as $699

2. 3080 10gb model made in limited quantities, intentionally

3. 3080 20gb models release more RAM and faster clocks, AIB only, phasing out 10gb models.

4. 3080 20gb models are $900 for the basic ones, $1100 for the better cooler variants

5. 3080 10gb models were never intended for mass sale, and were intended to be marketing hype to claim they sold cards for $699

6. Nvidia laughs to the bank while managing to charge people yet again $1100 for a 2080 ti +20% replacement while claiming it was $699.

 

Like auto ads with $19,999 car but only one and the rest are all $29,999

I agree with this, Nvidia probably doesn't make much profit on their FE 3080 at $699 due to the much more complex cooler design, and the rumors of the 3070 with more VRAM makes sense if Nvidia intended the 10GB 3080 to be a limited card.

[DildorTheDecent]

23 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

We will know once the GPU is released.

There's blocks that will fit both PCBs. For both the FE and reference designs. The only discernible difference might be that the 3090 PCB is slightly taller so that NVLINK will clears the stock cooler but that's it really. The layout should be near identical. Knowing nvidia the extra paste from having a taller PCB will go mostly wasted unfortunately.

 

Nvidia has used identical or near identical PCBs before: 980 Ti and Titan X (Maxwell/GM200), 1080 Ti and Titan Xp (Pascal/GP102), 2080 Ti and Titan RTX (Turing/TU102).

[Delicieuxz]

How soon do people here think 10 GB would become limiting for 1440p, or 4K? How soon do people think 20 GB would become useful?

 

Are there any examples of games which currently will actually use, not simply allocate, over 7GB at 4K?

[Deli]

12 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

How soon do people here think 10 GB would become limiting for 1440p, or 4K? How soon do people think 20 GB would become useful?

 

Are there any examples of games which currently will actually use, not simply allocate, over 7GB at 4K?

I won't be too worried with 10GB VRAM in the next 1 or 2 years. However if you plan to keep the card for 3, 4 years and longer....

[Mark Kaine]

woot super happy if true I don't want a 8gb card going forward, tech babble or not that's ridiculously low...

 

F in the chat for the 5 ppl that bought 3080 cards tho...

 

[Shreyas1]

Watch them release the 3080 20gb at 750 bucks, pissing off everyone who just bought a 3080

[Ripred]

"Accidentally" or gigabyte being dicks because they probably got mass hate mail for not having cards in stock 5 minutes after release

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Delicieuxz said:

Are there any examples of games which currently will actually use, not simply allocate, over 7GB at 4K?

Doom eternal uses 9GB of Vram at the highest texture settings at 4k. It's also real usage because performance drops significantly on 8GB cards. 

That said, just dropping down the texture setting one step makes the game completely playable on 8GB cards

[SeriousDad69]

10 hours ago, Delicieuxz said:

How soon do people here think 10 GB would become limiting for 1440p, or 4K? How soon do people think 20 GB would become useful?

 

Are there any examples of games which currently will actually use, not simply allocate, over 7GB at 4K?

Skyrim and Fallout mods use massive amounts of VRAM when you start getting crazy with it. And it's a given that with how powerful the PS5 is, games are going to get a lot more demanding over the next 1-2 years, and 10GB of VRAM probably wont cut it in some games at 4K.

The conspiracy theorist in me says Nvidia probably released with *only* 10GB of VRAM because they don't want people sitting on a 3080 for 3+ years like people have done with the 1080ti, and nothing tanks performance harder than running out of VRAM. (Realistically though, they probably just didn't have 2GB chips ready yet or wanted to keep high margins while passing some savings on)

Nvidia probably doesn't even want to release 16/20GB variants, they're probably preparing them just in case RDNA 2 has close enough performance but with more VRAM.

[vong]

I was afraid nvidia will pull this super BS again. Looks like more waiting for everyone that wanted a new card to make a final decision.

[RejZoR]

The sooner RTX IO (or whatever Microsoft's thing is called) becomes a thing, the less VRAM we'll need as whole. Framebuffer doesn't actually take that much memory, it's stuffing all these massive textures into memory. If system can quickly and reliably prefets only needed textures, the VRAM demand won't increase.

[Master Disaster]

42 minutes ago, SeriousDad69 said:

Skyrim and Fallout mods use massive amounts of VRAM when you start getting crazy with it. And it's a given that with how powerful the PS5 is, games are going to get a lot more demanding over the next 1-2 years, and 10GB of VRAM probably wont cut it in some games at 4K.

The conspiracy theorist in me says Nvidia probably released with *only* 10GB of VRAM because they don't want people sitting on a 3080 for 3+ years like people have done with the 1080ti, and nothing tanks performance harder than running out of VRAM. (Realistically though, they probably just didn't have 2GB chips ready yet or wanted to keep high margins while passing some savings on)

Nvidia probably doesn't even want to release 16/20GB variants, they're probably preparing them just in case RDNA 2 has close enough performance but with more VRAM.

No chance, the fact Gigabyte have SKU IDs indicates they are coming.

[Murasaki]

Excuse me a 3070 16GB? Nice bait for the miners while I snag me a 8GB!

[pm128]

What a great accident

[RejZoR]

I don't care. If you are one of those who keep on thinking what's coming next, you'll never actually buy anything because there is always something planned around the corner. I always just look what excites me or what I want and commit to it. When it comes to hardware, I don't remember a single time I've made a bad decision and I always buy well and then use the thing for some time and not just shuffle through stuff yearly.

[Deli]

7 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

I don't care. If you are one of those who keep on thinking what's coming next, you'll never actually buy anything because there is always something planned around the corner. I always just look what excites me or what I want and commit to it. When it comes to hardware, I don't remember a single time I've made a bad decision and I always buy well and then use the thing for some time and not just shuffle through stuff yearly.

Maybe you can always make smart choices. Can't say the same for a lot of people.

[Fatih19]

19 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

Hot Take:

 

1. 3080 10gb models hyped up as $699

2. 3080 10gb model made in limited quantities, intentionally

3. 3080 20gb models release more RAM and faster clocks, AIB only, phasing out 10gb models.

4. 3080 20gb models are $900 for the basic ones, $1100 for the better cooler variants

5. 3080 10gb models were never intended for mass sale, and were intended to be marketing hype to claim they sold cards for $699

6. Nvidia laughs to the bank while managing to charge people yet again $1100 for a 2080 ti +20% replacement while claiming it was $699.

 

Like auto ads with $19,999 car but only one and the rest are all $29,999

Are you MLID?

[GoodBytes]

54 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

I don't care. If you are one of those who keep on thinking what's coming next, you'll never actually buy anything because there is always something planned around the corner. I always just look what excites me or what I want and commit to it. When it comes to hardware, I don't remember a single time I've made a bad decision and I always buy well and then use the thing for some time and not just shuffle through stuff yearly.

It's great that you have the money. But for many, they aim for compute parts that will last them a long time, which also reduce e-waste, something. others think about. Considering the you can't upgrade a graphics card memory, this posses a problem.

 

The big problem for many, is that while the memory amount is indeed sufficient for todays games, for the target resolution each GPU model targets, that is today. The new console are around the corner, and next gen games are coming for them and on PC. Will it be enough memory for games 1-2 years from now.... we don't know. But having some headroom is welcome. If the 3080 had 12GB it would have been less of a concern. 16GB would have been more the enough for 3-4 years, most likely.