AMD GPUs: Why I regret buying a 5700 XT

[Asparii]

So I was an early adapter to the 5700 XT, and I have an MSI reference card with the blower cooler. 

 

This being my first actual PC build, I was ecstatic about putting it all together. I researched for a long time, finding price to performance and the benchmarks of the card, excited about the capabilities of it. And it is an impressive card. When it works, it's brilliant. 

 

H O W E V E R...

 

Since launch, this card has given me multiple issues, and the teething problems with Navi still not being sorted is starting to get to not only me, but many others in the community. 

 

I've had so many black screen issues, display flickers, and other assorted problems; many, in recent months. I'm at a point where I regret purchasing the 5700 XT purely for how AMD has coped with the driver updates for the Navi platform. 

 

I know I'm not alone in the majority of these issues either, there are so many other forums and discussions about the same thing. Yet there only seems to be more and more issues arising with each update. 

 

I wish I had the funds to purchase an equivalent Nvidia GPU at this point. I've personally not had issues with their drivers before, and decided to go out in a whim for AMD, to attempt to get better performance at the £400 price point I had to work with.

 

For now however, I'm stuck with such a clunky bit of hardware with terrible driver support. It's such a shame, honestly. 

[DrMacintosh]

might I ask, to just to see if my assumption about these issues hold true... what other hardware is in your system? Specifically your CPU and motherboard. 

[Damascus]

19 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

might I ask, to just to see if my assumption about these issues hold true... what other hardware is in your system? Specifically your CPU and motherboard. 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Damascus said:

#1 I did not notice the sig

#2 .....The sig could be a lie?......like the cake I was promised.......

[dizmo]

But but. This forum always cries about how that only happens to a very low percentage of people!!

Right. The fact it happens at all is frankly pathetic.

Just sell your 5700XT in a few months and buy one of Nvidias 3000 series cards when they come out.

[Asparii]

14 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

#1 I did not notice the sig

#2 .....The sig could be a lie?......like the cake I was promised.......

Drop down of system specs are all up to date and accurate. 

[Asparii]

14 hours ago, dizmo said:

But but. This forum always cries about how that only happens to a very low percentage of people!!

Right. The fact it happens at all is frankly pathetic.

Just sell your 5700XT in a few months and buy one of Nvidias 3000 series cards when they come out.

Gamers Nexus has polls etc based upon whether AMD customers have had issues with drivers, and the majority have. 

So its not just a "small percentage of people". 

 

I am debating selling it, but will definitely see how those 3000 series GPUs are for Nvidia when we're closer to launch date. 

[Gohardgrandpa]

14 hours ago, dizmo said:

But but. This forum always cries about how that only happens to a very low percentage of people!!

Right. The fact it happens at all is frankly pathetic.

Just sell your 5700XT in a few months and buy one of Nvidias 3000 series cards when they come out.

I’ve got a rx5700 and that’s what I plan on doing. If I get $250 for it I’ll be happy I only paid $280 for it after using some amazon credit I had left over 

[Asparii]

4 minutes ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

I’ve got a rx5700 and that’s what I plan on doing. If I get $250 for it I’ll be happy I only paid $280 for it after using some amazon credit I had left over 

I really don't know how much I'd get for the 5700 XT. I would guess around £350 max after spending £400 on it. 

Just got to hope that the 3000 series GPUs rival the price to performance (or better it) of AMD currently. 

[DrMacintosh]

20 minutes ago, Asparii said:

Gamers Nexus has polls etc based upon whether AMD customers have had issues with drivers, and the majority have. 

Gamers Nexus polls are inherently un-reliable. Not only is the poll selective, but people who don’t have issues are significantly less likely to vote in a poll because they won’t be looking for other users with issues. 
 

I for example never knew the poll existed, but I don’t have any issues with my RX 5700. 

[BTGbullseye]

20 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Gamers Nexus polls are inherently un-reliable. Not only is the poll selective, but people who don’t have issues are significantly less likely to vote in a poll because they won’t be looking for other users with issues. 
 

I for example never knew the poll existed, but I don’t have any issues with my RX 5700. 

Nor do I with my reference 5700 XT... (though I am disappointed no one has managed to make an inexpensive aftermarket cooler that properly fits the card)

[CPT_BEEMO]

Driver version 19.12.2 (Recommended WQHL) is the driver that has been the most stable for my system. Tried to update to 20.1.3 but had numerous game crashes. after a DDU and revert back to 19.12.2, issues were gone. I am also a reference (Asus) 5700XT user.

[Gohardgrandpa]

7 minutes ago, CPT_BEEMO said:

Driver version 19.12.2 (Recommended WQHL) is the driver that has been the most stable for my system. Tried to update to 20.1.3 but had numerous game crashes. after a DDU and revert back to 19.12.2, issues were gone. I am also a reference (Asus) 5700XT user.

That’s the driver that I’m on now and it’s been fine. Anything 20 + has been terrible for me. 

[CPT_BEEMO]

9 minutes ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

That’s the driver that I’m on now and it’s been fine. Anything 20 + has been terrible for me. 

Yup I had mine since mid september and so far so good on this driver. Im unbelievably thankful I didnt get the ROG Strix version, I heard about heatsink droopage over the course of a couple months causing temps to gradually rise, they have to be sent in for RMA to be fixed. Kinda like a recall I guess.

[Asparii]

1 hour ago, CPT_BEEMO said:

Driver version 19.12.2 (Recommended WQHL) is the driver that has been the most stable for my system. Tried to update to 20.1.3 but had numerous game crashes. after a DDU and revert back to 19.12.2, issues were gone. I am also a reference (Asus) 5700XT user.

I'll give that driver a go and see if there are any improvements. Thank you for the suggestion!

[Asparii]

1 hour ago, CPT_BEEMO said:

Yup I had mine since mid september and so far so good on this driver. Im unbelievably thankful I didnt get the ROG Strix version, I heard about heatsink droopage over the course of a couple months causing temps to gradually rise, they have to be sent in for RMA to be fixed. Kinda like a recall I guess.

Yeah, I heard (I think it was Asus) blaming AMD for cards going up in smoke due to the mounting pressure guidelines promoting less mounting pressure. 

[dizmo]

28 minutes ago, Asparii said:

Gamers Nexus has polls etc based upon whether AMD customers have had issues with drivers, and the majority have. 

So its not just a "small percentage of people". 

 

I am debating selling it, but will definitely see how those 3000 series GPUs are for Nvidia when we're closer to launch date. 

Yeah, I know. Hardware Unboxed has a similar poll, and while it does show significant improvements with recent patches, it's still unacceptable that it takes that long, and half of the users still have issues I mean, it's great to have competition in the marketplace, but FFS make it worthwhile. Lower pricing is no excuse for neglecting drivers.

26 minutes ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

I’ve got a rx5700 and that’s what I plan on doing. If I get $250 for it I’ll be happy I only paid $280 for it after using some amazon credit I had left over 

Yeah, definitely a good way to go I think.

5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Gamers Nexus polls are inherently un-reliable. Not only is the poll selective, but people who don’t have issues are significantly less likely to vote in a poll because they won’t be looking for other users with issues. 
 

I for example never knew the poll existed, but I don’t have any issues with my RX 5700. 

How is the poll selective?

Hardware Unboxed also has a poll up. Currently 50% of AMD owners are having issues with their drivers.

This poll isn't affected by your "looking for issues" comment, as it's a YouTube post, not on a video pertaining to issues with the cards.

 

The fact you didn't know it existed means nothing.

[DrMacintosh]

14 minutes ago, dizmo said:

How is the poll selective?

Because it requires users to find the poll and then choose to answer it? It’s by definition a selective poll. 

[PrinnyExplodes]

I have learned three things about AMD gpus.

 

#1 Fresh install of Windows

#2 Never update drivers unless you have to. Keep the last known stable drivers and don't touch it until you have issues with a game.

#3 Like Vega it literally takes over a year to make the drivers "presentable"

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

Because it requires users to find the poll and then choose to answer it? It’s by definition a selective poll. 

That's not really selective polling. Selective polling would be having it only available to a certain demographic of people.

Anyone can vote. Their votes are still relevant.

[CPT_BEEMO]

17 hours ago, Asparii said:

I'll give that driver a go and see if there are any improvements. Thank you for the suggestion!

Make sure you do a DDU of the old drivers before you install this one. Should give you best results.

[Asparii]

On 2/27/2020 at 4:06 PM, CPT_BEEMO said:

Make sure you do a DDU of the old drivers before you install this one. Should give you best results.

I cant find the option to disable the AMD Overlay in my games with this set of drivers, it causes frame-rate instability in quite a few games (RDR2, Mordhau and multiple others I play regularly). Any idea on how to turn this off in the 19.12.2 Adrenalin software?

[CPT_BEEMO]

4 hours ago, Asparii said:

I cant find the option to disable the AMD Overlay in my games with this set of drivers, it causes frame-rate instability in quite a few games (RDR2, Mordhau and multiple others I play regularly). Any idea on how to turn this off in the 19.12.2 Adrenalin software?

I will have a look tonight once I get home from work. I will PM you with what I find. If you find it before I do, please let me know.

[Asparii]

4 hours ago, CPT_BEEMO said:

I will have a look tonight once I get home from work. I will PM you with what I find. If you find it before I do, please let me know.

Have found where the option for it, however, when I turn it off it doesn't actually turn it off and it runs regardless. Very confused, and quite frustrating considering it doesnt drop fps in some games, but really effects others. 

[Asparii]

19 hours ago, CPT_BEEMO said:

I will have a look tonight once I get home from work. I will PM you with what I find. If you find it before I do, please let me know.

Thankfully now sorted the issue, think the "Enhanced Sync" might've still been turned on and its not optimised for a few titles.