AMD GPUs: Why I regret buying a 5700 XT

[CPT_BEEMO]

On 2/29/2020 at 11:26 AM, Asparii said:

Thankfully now sorted the issue, think the "Enhanced Sync" might've still been turned on and its not optimised for a few titles. 

Looks like AMD released a new driver on Saturday the 28th, Appears to solve some in-game crashes or texture bugs as well as some overlay black screens/loss of displays.

 

I am going to give it a whirl tonight and see how it goes.

[Gohardgrandpa]

4 hours ago, CPT_BEEMO said:

Looks like AMD released a new driver on Saturday the 28th, Appears to solve some in-game crashes or texture bugs as well as some overlay black screens/loss of displays.

 

I am going to give it a whirl tonight and see how it goes.

I got a pulse 5700xt yesterday and installed and used the new drivers and it was fine. I did turn the enhanced sync off. 
Compared to my old xfx 5700 non xt that had a ton of issues the new card has been solid with the new drivers. 
I played for 5 hours last night and 3 hours today and didn’t have a single issue with the new drivers. Hopefully you have the same luck 

[BTGbullseye]

10 hours ago, CPT_BEEMO said:

Looks like AMD released a new driver on Saturday the 28th, Appears to solve some in-game crashes or texture bugs as well as some overlay black screens/loss of displays.

 

I am going to give it a whirl tonight and see how it goes.

I got my first crash in almost 3 months on it... All I did was turn on Freesync. (though I think it was just a game problem, not a driver issue, as the game is now stuck between 1/3 and 1/2 the framerate it was pre-crash, despite DDU, and everything else is where it was pre-crash)

[i_build_nanosuits]

6 hours ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

I got a pulse 5700xt yesterday and installed and used the new drivers and it was fine. I did turn the enhanced sync off. 
Compared to my old xfx 5700 non xt that had a ton of issues the new card has been solid with the new drivers. 
I played for 5 hours last night and 3 hours today and didn’t have a single issue with the new drivers. Hopefully you have the same luck 

about how many titles would you say you've played over that period of time?

[LOST TALE]

On 2/25/2020 at 11:38 PM, dizmo said:

But but. This forum always cries about how that only happens to a very low percentage of people!!

Right. The fact it happens at all is frankly pathetic.

Just sell your 5700XT in a few months and buy one of Nvidias 3000 series cards when they come out.

How long have we been waiting for 3000s?

[dizmo]

12 minutes ago, LOST TALE said:

How long have we been waiting for 3000s?

Same as every other release cycle. 

[Gohardgrandpa]

3 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

about how many titles would you say you've played over that period of time?

Including today I’ve played 

Siege, escape from tarkov, apex legends, fallout 4, fallout 76, fallout new Vegas, gta 5, battlefield 4 and fishing planet. I’m about 13hours of actual time playing games and haven’t had an issue yet. I’ve been trying a bunch of games to see if this will crash and so far it’s been better then my xfx 5700 was. 

[CPT_BEEMO]

On 2/25/2020 at 9:38 PM, dizmo said:

But but. This forum always cries about how that only happens to a very low percentage of people!!

Right. The fact it happens at all is frankly pathetic.

Just sell your 5700XT in a few months and buy one of Nvidias 3000 series cards when they come out.

Hardware Unboxed, GN, and a variety of other content creators have heard and asked about those experiencing major issues with 5700 series cards. It is not just a select few. I think I speak for everyone when I say it really sucks spending your hard earned money on an expensive component just to have driver issues for the next X months until AMD gets their S#!T together to fix it. You are very right, it is pathetic, however selling them only to come out at a loss so that we can then spend more of our hard earned money on a brand new card all over again is not a solution, nor is it reasonable to suggest. (Not to sound like a Karen/Boomer).

 

Top that off with Strix coolers sagging and bringing temps up due to improper fastening and anything else that may arise, and you'll find yourself to be part of a consumer base that has every right to be unhappy with a 7nm navi card that was extremely over-sold and under-delivered.

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, CPT_BEEMO said:

Hardware Unboxed, GN, and a variety of other content creators have heard and asked about those experiencing major issues with 5700 series cards. It is not just a select few. I think I speak for everyone when I say it really sucks spending your hard earned money on an expensive component just to have driver issues for the next X months until AMD gets their S#!T together to fix it. You are very right, it is pathetic, however selling them only to come out at a loss so that we can then spend more of our hard earned money on a brand new card all over again is not a solution, nor is it reasonable to suggest. (Not to sound like a Karen/Boomer).

 

Top that off with Strix coolers sagging and bringing temps up due to improper fastening and anything else that may arise, and you'll find yourself to be part of a consumer base that has every right to be unhappy with a 7nm navi card that was extremely over-sold and under-delivered.

Apparently sarcasm escapes you

 

[CPT_BEEMO]

Just now, dizmo said:

Apparently sarcasm escapes you

 

LOL it must. Sorry, little triggered over the frustrations this card has caused me over the last 7 months haha.

 

On a high note, I noticed no loss of performance, but a good drop in temps after doing a -100mV undervolt on the rig. 

[LOST TALE]

21 hours ago, dizmo said:

Same as every other release cycle. 

I haven't felt a release since the 1000s

[RasmusDC]

i remember the Nvidia days and the older ATI days of chasing stable drivers, bought a 5700 Non XT for my son, and feel like i am back in the late 90´s early 2000´s again..

 

where some drivers just reacts bad to some games.. i feel like my Nvidia 1080TI is at the point where i can just keep the same drivers for a long time, yes i might get a bit more FPS from updating, but i never have issues with quality.

 

Has had plenty on his system, which yeah it is a botch job, but worked perfectly with a borrowed 1060 3gig card for a long time..

 

i simply sold my 5700 non XT Asus non ref card, and bought an old 1080 non TI for  him used, and he is up and running again.

 

He is running a Z97-pro board with a 4790k, 16 gig of ram (G-Skill tridentz) Noctua DH-14 in a R4 case, so it is not an unstable build, it is a stable older platform.

 

he is only 5 so most of the time is used in Roblox and Minecraft (with shaders) Minecraft is a MESS on a 5700, again yes it is with shaders, but again works perfectly on a 1060 and now a 1080.

 

it is a shame, because RAW performance of this card is through the roof, and to be honest i bought it knowing there might be smaller issues, but want to support ATI as a "competitor" to nvidia.

 

and hoped that my 1080TI (my card) was to be exchanged with the BIG navi coming, but nah, especially since i am running so much racing sim, on a full size RIG, i am not getting in with a card, that has issues running modded elements, since the driver development team is not as strong as Nvidia..

[papajo]

I am just a demographic of 1 but I used RX 580s(in crossifre), RX vega 64 and now a RX 5700xt used both in linux and in windows environments... 

 

I had issues from time to time yes but mostly for complicated stuff (like there where some issues assorting multiple monitors in a dual user system) sometimes the driver just sucked in terms of like not being able to access the control panel or wattman settings getting reset. 

 

but those where just instances of limited lifespan other than that my general experience was not nearly as bad as described here 

[Steo]

The Vega 64 I had performed pretty well, but I had the Strix one with the really high VRM temps, which I heard was fixed in later revisions of the card. I ruled my Gigabyte OC 5700XT as faulty, since it was crashing on both Windows and Linux, and I had tried different drivers under windows, only to have the same issues.

 

I'm looking at buying an XFX or a Sapphire instead once I get refunded for the other one. I mainly want one since I use Linux, and things work much better under Linux being able to use mesa drivers for AMD GPUs instead of closed source Nvidia ones.

[accolade]

OP, I did like you and bought the 5700XT on launch last year. 

 

It was right after I saw Hardware Unboxed show this graph.  I thought might as well get the SKU AMD showed that was clocked higher than the regular, and I bought the 50th Anniversary model directly from AMD.   

 

Paired it with a Ryzen 7 3700X and a MSI X470 Gaming Pro motherboard. 

One of my first crashipolooza games was The Divison 2, the game meant to be optimized for AMD hardware, would freak out when I try to max it's settings at 1080p 144Hz Freesync enabled.  I even found that the Precision Boost Overdrive being Enabled or defaulted in the BIOS was adding to the crash. Disabling it gave me 30 minutes of game play versus 5-10 minutes on the initial July and August Radeon 2019 drivers.   

Then AMD launched Radeon 2020 and that added more problems, my black screen freezing turned to just general screen freezes when I wasn't even playing games, just watching downloaded video files (something most people today don't do since everyone likes to stream) video would freeze while audio kept playing in playback forcing hard reset.  This issue kept me on Radeon 19.12.1 (2019) for a while.

 

The icing on the cake for me is when I was playing Witcher 3 GOTY where it would randomly crash which was fault of the game but most other times it was the Radeon card being finicky and just going black. It didn't matter what driver I used.  

I eventually swapped in a RTX 2080 Amp to play and boy that card ran the game well, no black crashes, no freezes, it was even able to do a stable 144Hz for my Display in Witcher where as the 5700XT card often struggled to get near that in moving scenes. 

 

I recently swapped back in my 5700XT card following the 20.2.2 Radeon driver, and yeah those issues I had before appear to be gone. The card seems somewhat neutered now and not able to get me high benchmark results that I used to hit with the old Radeon drivers, but I guess that is the tradeoff, and that's been my NAVI experience.  

[Mister Woof]

On 3/4/2020 at 6:43 AM, Steo said:

The Vega 64 I had performed pretty well, but I had the Strix one with the really high VRM temps, which I heard was fixed in later revisions of the card. I ruled my Gigabyte OC 5700XT as faulty, since it was crashing on both Windows and Linux, and I had tried different drivers under windows, only to have the same issues.

 

I'm looking at buying an XFX or a Sapphire instead once I get refunded for the other one. I mainly want one since I use Linux, and things work much better under Linux being able to use mesa drivers for AMD GPUs instead of closed source Nvidia ones.

 

been satisfied with my XFX RAW II. no problems, except it's a hot card. Aggressive fan curve and undervolt brings it into being pretty usable.

 

also using 3 displays

[Gohardgrandpa]

I got my pulse 5700xt march 1st and haven't had a single issue with it

[DudeWhatTheN]

On 2/26/2020 at 5:36 AM, DrMacintosh said:

#1 I did not notice the sig

#2 .....The sig could be a lie?......like the cake I was promised.......

 nice portal reference

 

[shaz2sxy]

On 3/4/2020 at 8:13 AM, RasmusDC said:

i remember the Nvidia days and the older ATI days of chasing stable drivers, bought a 5700 Non XT for my son, and feel like i am back in the late 90´s early 2000´s again..

 

I have too many bad memories of the ATI days and my 9800 XT

 

This is  why I have been relectent to go AMD gfx cards at present.

[GreyestGoat]

Well i must have a unicorn as i have had no real issues.

[GreyestGoat]

24 minutes ago, shaz2sxy said:

I have too many bad memories of the ATI days and my 9800 XT

 

This is  why I have been relectent to go AMD gfx cards at present.

Your logic makes no sense, you should have said "reluctant at all" since you base your experience off of over a dercade old hardware and drivers.

[shaz2sxy]

12 minutes ago, GreyestGoat said:

Your logic makes no sense, you should have said "reluctant at all" since you base your experience off of over a dercade old hardware and drivers.

The logic is correct.... I have had bad a experience which has made me reluctant to go AMD due to the "driver issues" still being present after a decade....if this changes I will look again, as I always make an informed choice when purchasing. 

 

16 minutes ago, GreyestGoat said:

Well i must have a unicorn as i have had no real issues.

but your logic makes no sense - just because you don't have any "real" issues, doesn't mean anyone else doesn't 

[GreyestGoat]

Just now, shaz2sxy said:

The logic is correct.... I have had bad a experience which has made me reluctant to go AMD due to the "driver issues" still being present after a decade....if this changes I will look again, as I always make an informed choice when purchasing. 

 

but your logic makes no sense - just because you don't have any "real" issues, doesn't mean anyone else doesn't 

I never said nobody else don't have the issues, i just said i must have a unicorn.

 

 

"The logic is correct.... I have had bad a experience which has made me reluctant to go AMD due to the "driver issues" still being present after a decade....if this changes I will look again, as I always make an informed choice when purchasing. "

 

So the truth is you are reluctant at all then, has the same meaning, just your version is politically correct, neither answer is actually wrong i think we misunderstood actually, your original post was tricky to understand since you used such an outdated card for your reasoning so that is over a decade ago, see how the logic sways peoples minds? a decade is a hell of a long time.

 

 

 

 

[Steo]

On 4/17/2020 at 6:26 AM, Mister Woof said:

 

been satisfied with my XFX RAW II. no problems, except it's a hot card. Aggressive fan curve and undervolt brings it into being pretty usable.

 

also using 3 displays

I ended up taking a deal for a Sapphire Nitro+ SE card since I got a good deal on it. I was going to take the Thicc III otherwise, but this one seems fine.