iPhone XS and XS Max proven to have undersized batteries

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Android's problem: it sucks when you actually live with it.

Are you reffering to the battery eat issue on Samsung phones? (No idea how many are actually affected)

[79wjd]

Something worth noting is that the Note supposedly defaults to 1080p, and at its native 2960x1440 it has similar battery life to the XS (at least assuming this source is accurate).

 

https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/15/xs-max-battery-test-note-9-pixel-3/

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

Something else interesting is that the Note supposedly defaults to 1080p, and at its native 2960x1440 it has similar battery life to the XS (at least on the surface from another review)

 

https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/15/xs-max-battery-test-note-9-pixel-3/

I wonder when people will realize that 1440p is just excessive on a smartphone. 

[19_blackie_73]

24 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

battery eating bug....... its been the bane that made a lot of people swap.

I won't be buying another samsung for sure for a while. My s5 mini is dying at the moment, and the replacement will be from someone else.

[Noctus]

16 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

Something worth noting is that the Note supposedly defaults to 1080p, and at its native 2960x1440 it has similar battery life to the XS (at least assuming this source is accurate).

 

https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/15/xs-max-battery-test-note-9-pixel-3/

Can't say I agree, and I've used my phone heavily today. I'm usually still sitting at 13 or more hrs of usage by this time (GMT) And as you can see, the green line is starting to plateau. This all with WQHD+(2960x1440) screen reso set.

7 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

I won't be buying another samsung for sure for a while. My s5 mini is dying at the moment, and the replacement will be from someone else.

What is this battery bug thing? 1st I'm ever hearing of it. 

[RyuHimora]

5 minutes ago, Noctus said:

What is this battery bug thing? 1st I'm ever hearing of it. 

 

[79wjd]

12 minutes ago, Noctus said:

Can't say I agree, and I've used my phone heavily today. I'm usually still sitting at 13 or more hrs of usage by this time (GMT) And as you can see, the green line is starting to plateau. This all with WQHD+(2960x1440) screen reso set.

What is this battery bug thing? 1st I'm ever hearing of it. 

The actual numbers will always vary unless you're running the exact same configurations (and even then they'll vary between runs), the (repeated) relative performance is what actually matters. 

 

My point was that there's a lot more going on than just one having better battery life than the other. 

[GoldenLag]

27 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I wonder when people will realize that 1440p is just excessive on a smartphone. 

Personally preffer the extra crispness of 1440p, just makes everything a tad better.

 

1080p though is most of the time a minimum with the exception of super budget phones.

[MorganO]

In my experience so far the Iphonew Xs Max has a better battery life than my note 9 

currently When im at work i take my phone off charge at 6am in the morning, moderate to heavy usage throughout the day and lighter usage during the evenings, i think the best so far is ive had was 6am to 11pm the following day

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Personally preffer the extra crispness of 1440p, just makes everything a tad better.

 

1080p though is most of the time a minimum with the exception of super budget phones.

There is honesty no practical difference that justifies the performance and power efficiency costs. 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, MorganO said:

In my experience so far the Iphonew Xs Max has a better battery life than my note 9 

currently When im at work i take my phone off charge at 6am in the morning, moderate to heavy usage throughout the day and lighter usage during the evenings, i think the best so far is ive had was 6am to 11pm the following day

Probably the iPhones better standby performance. Something that the method the video OP is referring to can’t test. 

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

There is honesty no practical difference that justifies the performance and power efficiency costs. 

Well, no, but premium devices come with premium hardware. Might aswell use it as it has no impact on batterylife during daily use. 

 

There are 4k phones out there

[MorganO]

8 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Probably the iPhones better standby performance. Something that the method the video OP is referring to can’t test. 

i have yet to heavily test sustatined heavy usage, (ill test this weekend)

 

 

i IFnd in My expeerience that all of my iphones have offered what feels like longer battery life compaired to my android counterparts+

 

ive owned multiple samsungs from the s8+,note 8, s9+ and note 9, oneplus 3t/5/5t/6

never been impressed on the battery side of things for the samsungs and for oneplus battery life is pretty on par with iphones (i feel) but annoyed with the 6 month rolling upgrade

[DrMacintosh]

5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

There are 4k phones out there

Which are all terrible and run nothing at 4K 

[AnonymousGuy]

7 minutes ago, MorganO said:

i have yet to heavily test sustatined heavy usage, (ill test this weekend)

 

 

i IFnd in My expeerience that all of my iphones have offered what feels like longer battery life compaired to my android counterparts+

It's because iOS added multitasking later in its life, so it retains better control of apps in the background and what they can do.  Android has always let apps run wild and free, and only in Android 6 or so started introducing "app optimization" to turn background apps off.  iOS's approach is also better from a privacy perspective, so you don't have apps constantly trying to monitor your activity from the background.

[themctipers]

3 hours ago, RyuHimora said:

good luck turning that off without jailbreaking. 

can't do that since the iPhone 3G days

turning off daemons that are supposed to be off or inactive does nothing, maybe save 3MB of RAM while having to delete vital system components. 

 

just use low power mode all of the time like me and get 'somewhat respectable' battery life.. I start the day with 80-90% of the day and I end off at 30-40% with maybe 2.5 hours of screen on time. 

pretty much the only thing you can do to turn off some of the systems idle functions now  

[Blancaster]

If I remember right, Phonebuff kept the resolution at 1080p (default) and of course the iPhone wasn't able to be changed so it was at it's native (2688 x 1242) which is significant to the battery test. Of course putting the Note 9 to 1440p would make it higher than the iPhone's resolution and again unfair. So it's hard to test the phones accurately. 

 

I do believe Phonebuff's attempt was the best at comparing them, but I still think there's a bit of a discrepancy that can be resolved. 

[79wjd]

8 minutes ago, Blancaster said:

If I remember right, Phonebuff kept the resolution at 1080p (default) and of course the iPhone wasn't able to be changed so it was at it's native (2688 x 1242) which is significant to the battery test. Of course putting the Note 9 to 1440p would make it higher than the iPhone's resolution and again unfair. So it's hard to test the phones accurately. 

 

I do believe Phonebuff's attempt was the best at comparing them, but I still think there's a bit of a discrepancy that can be resolved. 

It would be unfair in either case, however, there are two important things to consider. 

1) One is that most people will assume the Note 9 is running at its native resolution making giving a very different picture from reality. 

2) He's making the discrepancy between resolutions far greater by leaving the Note at 1080p. The Note 9 at native resolution has 28% more pixels than the XS Max while the XS Max has 61% more pixels than the 1080p Note 9.

 

If I was using the Note 9, then I probably would lower the resolution to 1080p to improve battery life at very little visual expense (which can't be done on the iPhone -- so it is an important factor to consider), but not everyone would make that trade, and again, most people would assume it's running at its native resolution -- which is a far more fair comparison.

[asus killer]

not a fan of apple but galaxy note's are notorious for battery issues, maybe apple just wants to play it safe as Samsung on the other hand squeezes all out of the batteries with disastrous consequences.

I would ratter have a proper working phone even if it cost some battery life

[Curufinwe_wins]

Edited after correction

 

Two different types of issues. (Oh and did you know that entire drama was over a total of 35 units world wide?)

[79wjd]

 

8 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

while Apple rates 50% after 500).

No, they rate it for 80% at 500 cycles.

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A normal battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles when operating under normal conditions. 

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208387

 

[Curufinwe_wins]

13 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

 

No, they rate it for 80% at 500 cycles.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208387

 

I went through that site. Must have misread it. Oops. Will fix

 

Found my mistake. Apple rates 80% after 500. S7 and before are 80%. S8 and newer are 95% rated. Same idea, but less dramatic difference.

[Commodus]

This doesn't sit right, especially since I have an iPhone XS.

 

There's the resolution discrepancy, as was noted earlier.  Yeah, 1080p is default on the Note 9, but if you're going to do a fair test, push the phones to their limits.  But more importantly, synthetic tests only say so much.  I haven't been hurting for battery life in the weeks since I bought the XS, and I'm the sort who likes to take photos, browse Instagram and other social apps, check email... I'm on it frequently when I'm out.  I have yet to do ultimate tests like take it to a concert or shoot a ton of 4K video, but I'm content with it so far.

[schwellmo92]

Does anyone honestly care if say one phone gets 20 hours and the other gets 24 hours? If I can take my phone off charge in the morning and it makes it till I go to bed at night and put it back on charge that’s a win for me. I would rather have less battery life at the expense of performance (smoother experience) as long as it lasts through the day.

[schwellmo92]

Funnily enough, someone ran the same test with the phones at their native resolution and found that battery life was pretty much equal https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/15/xs-max-battery-test-note-9-pixel-3/