*leak* New storage device in DIMM formfactor

[Đỗ Đức Huy]

So my local SSD seller posted this picture with the caption: "Ultra rare, we may stop selling M.2 form factor SSDs in the future and change to SODIMM form factor SSDs"

Everything in the picture that can id this "thing" is blurred out, other than this is by Sandisk and was made in Malaysia. The module does not seem to have the characteristic curve in the middle of DDR4 DIMM.

Edit: This module capacity is 400GB

This is all I know, nagging the seller for more info

[knightslugger]

I'll pass. NVMe is already retarded fast, so fast in fact that it has no real benefit to the everyday consumer.

[hconverse02]

dimm.2 slots exist too btw which is probably exactly what this is  this looks like some iteration of that

[knightslugger]

Just now, hconverse02 said:

dimm.2 slots exist too btw which is probably exactly what this is

those are for m.2 expansion. pretty sure it's not interfaced with the Memory controller like the DIMM slots are.

[Đỗ Đức Huy]

10 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

dimm.2 slots exist too btw which is probably exactly what this is  this looks like some iteration of that

nah no, DIMM.2 is just an interface for adapting M.2 to a DIMM form factor. This is AFAIK, DIMM slot SSD. Bugging the dealer for more info

[DildorTheDecent]

It's not new. They're known as Solid State Modules.

 

Mechanically compatible with DDR3.

 

Your "local SSD seller" is talking balls tbh. Don't think they'll get any more.

[Bananasplit_00]

nope, was thinking about another thing, but this isnt anything we havent seen before. its just extremely expensive and server side only im pretty sure

Edited January 16, 2018 by Bananasplit_00
was thinking about another thing

[NumLock21]

You can tell your seller to take that thing and shove it far up his ass.

 

That thing is ancient. Here is a review on it.

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6815/sandisk-ulltradimm-ddr3-400gb-ssd-enterprise-review/index.html

 

[Mira Yurizaki]

Also why would we go from the nice small, compact size of M.2 2280 (or smaller) to the relatively large DIMM? Even SO-DIMM is larger in area than M.2 2280.

[Drak3]

26 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Also why would we go from the nice small, compact size of M.2 2280 (or smaller) to the relatively large DIMM? Even SO-DIMM is larger in area than M.2 2280.

More area for NAND

[Mira Yurizaki]

5 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

More area for NAND

With that logic, why don't we have modern mainstream 3.5" SSDs?

[Drak3]

8 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

With that logic, why don't we have modern mainstream 3.5" SSDs?

Because idiots are in charge of that decision.

[Space Reptile]

21 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

With that logic, why don't we have modern mainstream 3.5" SSDs?

i want those so badly , but nooooo everything must be tiny and expensive 

[Princess Luna]

I'll stick to 2,5 SATA3 SSDs.... thanks.

[Mira Yurizaki]

19 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

i want those so badly , but nooooo everything must be tiny and expensive 

A 3.5" SSD wouldn't be any cheaper.

[Space Reptile]

2 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

A 3.5" SSD wouldn't be any cheaper.

but way bigger capacity 

[Mira Yurizaki]

Just now, Space Reptile said:

but way bigger capacity 

Hm, a 4TB SSD, or a really good gaming rig?

[Drak3]

5 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

A 3.5" SSD wouldn't be any cheaper.

It might be. Only on controller, one casing, but the capacity of 4+ 2.5" SSDs.

 

13 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I'll stick to 2,5 SATA3 SSDs.... thanks.

I'd rather have a single 3.5" than multiple 2.5"

[AshleyAshes]

5 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

but way bigger capacity 

Not really though.  Most SSDs could PHYSICALLY fit more flash chips.  It's just not marketable to since the main cost if the chips themselves.  4GB 2.5" SSDs are already VERY expensive.  Cramming in more memory only makes them even MORE expensive.  This is why 3.5" SSDs are only seen in a narrow niche of enterprise products.

 

Like, when a 2.5" 4TB SSD is $1500, how many of you are going to line up to pay $3000 for a 3.5" 8TB SSD?

[Space Reptile]

1 minute ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Hm, a 4TB SSD, or a really good gaming rig?

yea but a larger one would be cheaper as they could use more of the cheaper smaller capacity flash , it would not be drastically cheaper , but id guess like 30% 

[Mira Yurizaki]

9 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

yea but a larger one would be cheaper as they could use more of the cheaper smaller capacity flash , it would not be drastically cheaper , but id guess like 30% 

Not really. The higher capacity drives are made up of multiple numbers of the flash chips. i.e., a 1TB SSD is made up of four times the number of chips used in the 250GB version. The 4TB version looks like it uses 500GB per chip (assuming it uses 8 chips), so sure, that's more costly. But the lower capacities ones? Not so much.

 

And even then, the sheer number of chips you need to make up the capacity would increase the chances of defects and/or failures.

 

One could ask also why we don't have 5.25" HDDs anymore. Surely with the insane amount of bit density we have now vs. the last 5.25" drives, we should be having 20TB drives.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

1 hour ago, Đỗ Đức Huy said:

nah no, DIMM.2 is just an interface for adapting M.2 to a DIMM form factor. This is AFAIK, DIMM slot SSD. Bugging the dealer for more info

So then this does fit in the DIMM.2 slot directly. Just like you can have a SATA SSD or a SATA adapter board for M.2 or mSATA, this seems like a drive that would plug directly into DIMM.2 instead of needing the adapter board bundled by Asus.

[Bananasplit_00]

9 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

yea but a larger one would be cheaper as they could use more of the cheaper smaller capacity flash , it would not be drastically cheaper , but id guess like 30% 

smaller capacity chips are not neccesairely cheaper. there is a sweetspot for each manufacturing process and using less silicon too is also cheaper

[NumLock21]

I seriously question that seller's product stock inventory if they mentioned that "SSD" is the future.

[Drak3]

29 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

One could ask also why we don't have 5.25" HDDs anymore. Surely with the insane amount of bit density we have now vs. the last 5.25" drives, we should be having 20TB drives.

Weight of the platters might just be too much for small motors at this point.