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Websites using your devices to mine cryptocurrency

LukWarm
By LukWarm
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https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/10/a-surge-of-sites-and-apps-are-exhausting-your-cpu-to-mine-cryptocurrency/

A company by the name of CoinHive has been selling a service to website owners and hacking their way into others to be able to run mining software through a website, depleting your system resources on your phone or tablet for money, even when you just have the tab open. It is usually used to prevent a website from having to run ads. The only problem is that this mining is done without any permission or consent from the user. 

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Ad blocker AdGuard recently reported that 220 sites on the Alexa top 100,000 list serve crypto mining scripts to more than 500 million people. In three weeks, AdGuard estimated, the sites generated a collective $43,000.

This is not cool on the part of the site owners. IMO at least tell your visitors. Its similar to if someone made YouTube videos from your computer without your consent, and gave a small cut to YouTube. 

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Simple fix, just turn off javascript, flash, and html5

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28 minutes ago, PRAGMA said:

I created a website and use this script to mine, but unlike other dickheads, I use the new Allow/Deny one, not the hidden automated one.

In my opinion, this is a step FORWARD, its better than a shit ton of annoying popups.

but the problem is that we now have both.

(and also, the requirements for an internet machine have been basically unchanged for like 7 years. (Sandy bridge i3 is still fine for an internet machine in 2017), but now if every website takes up 50% CPU for mining, then casual internet users might need more performance, if this is really intended to replace ads)

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32 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

but the problem is that we now have both.

(and also, the requirements for an internet machine have been basically unchanged for like 7 years. (Sandy bridge i3 is still fine for an internet machine in 2017), but now if every website takes up 50% CPU for mining, then casual internet users might need more performance, if this is really intended to replace ads)

Another problem posed if for users on mobile devices. Running the cpu for anything other than burst loads devours battery power, god forbid of someone figures out how to have a tab keep a phone's cpu awake for constant mining and pocket heat.

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54 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Another problem posed if for users on mobile devices. Running the cpu for anything other than burst loads devours battery power, god forbid of someone figures out how to have a tab keep a phone's cpu awake for constant mining and pocket heat.

Alternatively, maybe they'll be smart enough to only use 25% CPU, and show ads to users with CPUs that are too old, or users that are on mobile.

I envision this through maybe something like Google Ads incorporating a "Varied Ads" style, where it automatically detects the power, form factor, etc. of the device, and displays Ads/mines depending on the system's configuration.

 

Also, laptops on battery will suffer from this as well.

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26 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Alternatively, maybe they'll be smart enough to only use 25% CPU, and show ads to users with CPUs that are too old, or users that are on mobile.

I envision this through maybe something like Google Ads incorporating a "Varied Ads" style, where it automatically detects the power, form factor, etc. of the device, and displays Ads/mines depending on the system's configuration.

 

Also, laptops on battery will suffer from this as well.

Well, I included laptops too, though websites and seemingly benign software doing random stuff to kill battery in laptops is nothing new tbh. My favorite was when Youtube started serving VP9 and left me wondering what the heck my cpu was doing at 50% utilization.

 

And then we have Windows, oh god yes. We have Windows doing literally whatever it wants, pegging the cpu at full clocks whenever the Update, trustedinstaller, or that antimalware thing gets antsy, and gives no shits as to whether you're plugged in, or in the middle of Timbuktu with the battery on it's last vestiges of chemically induced life.

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8 hours ago, LordOfLegends said:

220 sites on the Alexa top 100,000 list serve crypto mining scripts to more than 500 million people. In three weeks, AdGuard estimated, the sites generated a collective $43,000.

assuming they all got the same traffic that's just under 200 in three weeks or just under $9 a day a massive $2 over what the minimum wage in the US gets paid in an hour. 

 

hardly anything to wrote home about.

 

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@LordOfLegends You should like the Service in question. https://coinhive.com/

It seems to not scale past 10 threads in opera. I can get a peak of 85 H/s

 

If the webpage is up front I think this is fine. the demo on the site must be user started and starts at 2 threads. (user adjustable)

 

It also provides a Capta replacement it goes by Proof of Work.

 

EDIT: the miner seems very adjustable, to the point you can set it to only use 10% of 1 thread.

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I used to live in an apartment where power was included in rent (aka if I used tons it didn't affect me). I meant to setup mining on my desktop when I wasn't using it, but never did because I could never be bothered how to figure out how to set it up. If there was a website specifically for mining, so that you sign into an account on said website and it mines in your browser and credits you 95% of the revenue while taking 5% or something for itself, then I totally would have used that. Of course it's probably not going to turn you a profit if you have to pay for your power, but for people who don't have to pay for their power it could be a great tool.

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1 hour ago, CommandMan7 said:

I used to live in an apartment where power was included in rent (aka if I used tons it didn't affect me). I meant to setup mining on my desktop when I wasn't using it, but never did because I could never be bothered how to figure out how to set it up. If there was a website specifically for mining, so that you sign into an account on said website and it mines in your browser and credits you 95% of the revenue while taking 5% or something for itself, then I totally would have used that. Of course it's probably not going to turn you a profit if you have to pay for your power, but for people who don't have to pay for their power it could be a great tool.

Just use NiceHash. All you need is a Bitcoin Wallet from somewhere like coinbase. It will set everything else up for you. I run it while im at school or work.

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you know... if it had a button to start and stop it, are a warning that it is running and instructions how to stop it, or some opt-in checkbox to mark, i would rather have this than ads

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1 hour ago, suicidalfranco said:

you know... if it had a button to start and stop it, are a warning that it is running and instructions how to stop it, or some opt-in checkbox to mark, i would rather have this than ads

Go to https://coinhive.com/ and test it out. that is how it works for their tool.

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Malwarebytes active protection seemed to prevent coinhive from running, when Pirate Bay was in the news for starting to use it. But I can't confirm it 100%, going to check it out again though. 

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On 10/31/2017 at 4:03 AM, PRAGMA said:

In my opinion, this is a step FORWARD, its better than a shit ton of annoying popups.

The problem with "better than" is that getting shot in the face is better than being skinned alive.

 

Automated, no consent required background mining is 100% malware behavior and worthy of blacklisting. Kudos to Cloudflare.

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On 10/31/2017 at 9:33 AM, CommandMan7 said:

I used to live in an apartment where power was included in rent (aka if I used tons it didn't affect me).

*snip*

Of course it's probably not going to turn you a profit if you have to pay for your power, but for people who don't have to pay for their power it could be a great tool.

In case you didn't realize it, even if power bills are included in your rent, someone still has to actually pay for what's used.  So if you start using tons of power, it's a safe bet that either your landlord will put a stop to it (by telling you to stop and/or evicting you) or they'll be jacking up your rent to compensate.  One way or another, it will affect you.

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