General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Automobili3XF]

Quick and dirty way to make that X5670 hit 4.0ghz? i want to take it to my friend's house on saturday, it would be nice to take it overclocked, i'll make a more elaborated config later...

[JR88]

Yesss Sir, that would be running as we speak. I got a shitty Board for it though...other than that the x5650 seems still strong. I used ESO a lot for Game Testing/Benching and a baseline, despite it's kind of a shitty game somewhat. It ran that pretty well some minor frame drops, if I could overclock that would be a non-issue. 

 

Need to see if it will run Battlefield.  Worth the bootsale bargain 50$ though definitely. and 100$ board...

[kelvinhall05]

2 minutes ago, JR88 said:

Yesss Sir, that would be running as we speak. I got a shitty Board for it though...other than that the x5650 seems still strong. I used ESO a lot for Game Testing/Benching and a baseline, despite it's kind of a shitty game somewhat. It ran that pretty well some minor frame drops, if I could overclock that would be a non-issue. 

 

Need to see if it will run Battlefield.  Worth the bootsale bargain 50$ though definitely. and 100$ board...

Nice, I got my CPU, motherboard, and RAM for 120 Canadian Pesos.

[Pasi123]

7 minutes ago, Chevy_Monsenhor said:

Quick and dirty way to make that X5670 hit 4.0ghz? i want to take it to my friend's house on saturday, it would be nice to take it overclocked, i'll make a more elaborated config later...

Multiplier 24 and bclk around 167 and cpu voltage 1.3v should work fine. Those are the settings that I run on my P6X58D-E and X5670 back in 2016

[JR88]

7 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Nice, I got my CPU, motherboard, and RAM for 120 Canadian Pesos.

Well I already had some old ddr3 1600mhz g.skill....too bad it has to loaf along at 1066mhz. and same stuck at 2.9ghz on the x5650. 

sucks man..I know now the chip is still good..somebody needs to point me in a direction of a mobo that can clock this chip.

[Automobili3XF]

4 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

Multiplier 24 and bclk around 167 and cpu voltage 1.3v should work fine. Those are the settings that I run on my P6X58D-E and X5670 back in 2016

I'll try that, thanks a lot!

[Automobili3XF]

9 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Nice, I got my CPU, motherboard, and RAM for 120 Canadian Pesos.

I think i may have overpaid for my kit, X58A-UD7 + i7-930 for just shy of US$200 + US$50 for the Xeon(s).

But then again, i got it here in Brazil, where clapped out X58 boards go for US$300+ and my UD7 is pristine, dude who owned never even touched the BIOS settings from what i could see.

[bimmerman]

200 BCLK, 1.325 - 1.35 V QPI/VTT, 20-22 CPU Multiplier @ 1.3-1.35 V Vcore, 8x Memory multipler, 1.5-2x Uncore multipler.

 

Quick and dirty overclock settings, not guaranteed to work on all systems but was set-and-forget on mine. If these end up working for you, and are stable, then try decreasing voltage (QPI first) until it isn't stable, then do the same with Vcore. These voltages are basically max safe so you will want to find the minimum necessary for these frequencies.

 

Mine also runs a bit more stable at BCLK that ends in 5, for whatever reason. I.e. 205 instead of 200, 215 instead of 210, etc.

[asand1]

1 hour ago, Pasi123 said:

Multiplier 24 and bclk around 167 and cpu voltage 1.3v should work fine. Those are the settings that I run on my P6X58D-E and X5670 back in 2016

I think I am at 166 x24. Voltage is auto with spread spectrum disabled.

[FlatBrokeRacing]

well i have overhead to push this monster so time to either let the smoke out, or break 1100+ CB score. I'm already surpassed the Ryzen 1600 score in CPUZ by a large margin... screen shots to come!

 

[FlatBrokeRacing]

Shes taking abit more voltage than i like, but keep pushing...

https://valid.x86.fr/htd7xw > cpuZ results so far. trying to get CB to run. program keeps crashing, might have to put more Vcore at it. 

 

[FlatBrokeRacing]

https://valid.x86.fr/zt4rje getting there... for all the haters just dont look at the the Vcore HAHAHAHAHA

 

I have tried like a son-of-a-!*#$ to get 5ghz stable.... lower multipliers with higher blck, and lower blck with higher multipliers... just seems to be at a wall right now, even went to 1.57 on the vcore at one point, it will load windows and screw around fine, but CB the system just freezes.

[FlatBrokeRacing]

well it took everything i could give it and then some and I DID IT, finally hit 1100cb score! impressive for some old ass hardware!

 

Now this isnt daily driveable at all, although temp wise it was ok LOL. I'm not running anything special, MX-4 thermal paste, Corsair H55 120mm AIO with the stock corsair fan, with a thermaltake Red Ring 120mm fan stacked on for Push/Pull. Of course on MAX speed/pump speed. 

 

right now i have it set to daily drive @ 4.6ghz 200blck and 23 multiplier @ 1.385 volts. may try to lower it abit...

 

now best to date single core 148, 1100 all cores @ 4.87ghz.

 

to put things in perspective, the 4.6ghz run will do 1050cb score easy. so not really much gained from .2v vcore and 270mhz core speed.

 

[kelvinhall05]

OK, so I tried to get past these "FSB holes", but I was unable to. I guess that I just can't go past 167MHz on my FSB.

[Zando_]

8 hours ago, FlatBrokeRacing said:

well it took everything i could give it and then some and I DID IT, finally hit 1100cb score! impressive for some old ass hardware!

 

Now this isnt daily driveable at all, although temp wise it was ok LOL. I'm not running anything special, MX-4 thermal paste, Corsair H55 120mm AIO with the stock corsair fan, with a thermaltake Red Ring 120mm fan stacked on for Push/Pull. Of course on MAX speed/pump speed. 

 

right now i have it set to daily drive @ 4.6ghz 200blck and 23 multiplier @ 1.385 volts. may try to lower it abit...

 

now best to date single core 148, 1100 all cores @ 4.87ghz.

 

to put things in perspective, the 4.6ghz run will do 1050cb score easy. so not really much gained from .2v vcore and 270mhz core speed.

 

dang, noice! My X5675 runs at 4.4GHz, I think I got it to 4.5GHz once, but IDK what I'm doing (I basically just bumble around the settings, and most of them are on auto right now). 

[FlatBrokeRacing]

5 hours ago, kelvinhall05 said:

OK, so I tried to get past these "FSB holes", but I was unable to. I guess that I just can't go past 167MHz on my FSB.

whats your vcore, and do you have temp overhead? I hit a wall, and just said **** it and typed in 30 higher, slapped Vcore at it and went for it. Before i was stuck around 180, i am now 100% stable at 200-210 with added vcore voltage. However 210 is the wall for me, I typed in 230 with low memory multiplier and slapped it with 1.55Vcore and a 20X cpu multiplier and nope, she just wont take it.  Also make sure you are not above what the memory is rated for and lower your QPI link speed to its lowest setting. 

 

@Zando Bob haha, biggest thing to watch is voltages. generally i'll do a quick google on what 'normal/max' voltages are for all the settings, and then take that with a grain of salt, and push it. but 4.4/4.5 is nothing to shake at thats a decent oc for sure!

[Zando_]

1 hour ago, FlatBrokeRacing said:

whats your vcore, and do you have temp overhead? I hit a wall, and just said **** it and typed in 30 higher, slapped Vcore at it and went for it. Before i was stuck around 180, i am now 100% stable at 200-210 with added vcore voltage. However 210 is the wall for me, I typed in 230 with low memory multiplier and slapped it with 1.55Vcore and a 20X cpu multiplier and nope, she just wont take it.  Also make sure you are not above what the memory is rated for and lower your QPI link speed to its lowest setting. 

 

@Zando Bob haha, biggest thing to watch is voltages. generally i'll do a quick google on what 'normal/max' voltages are for all the settings, and then take that with a grain of salt, and push it. but 4.4/4.5 is nothing to shake at thats a decent oc for sure!

My CPU is at 1.35v, IDK what the rest are, they're auto. 

[Intelfreak]

12 hours ago, FlatBrokeRacing said:

well it took everything i could give it and then some and I DID IT, finally hit 1100cb score! impressive for some old ass hardware!

 

Now this isnt daily driveable at all, although temp wise it was ok LOL. I'm not running anything special, MX-4 thermal paste, Corsair H55 120mm AIO with the stock corsair fan, with a thermaltake Red Ring 120mm fan stacked on for Push/Pull. Of course on MAX speed/pump speed. 

 

right now i have it set to daily drive @ 4.6ghz 200blck and 23 multiplier @ 1.385 volts. may try to lower it abit...

 

now best to date single core 148, 1100 all cores @ 4.87ghz.

 

to put things in perspective, the 4.6ghz run will do 1050cb score easy. so not really much gained from .2v vcore and 270mhz core speed.

 

Welcome to the 1100 CB score X58 club .

 

My little I7 980X dit that as well on what i found impressive on air cooling. Cooling setup is Noctua NH-D14 with 3 high RPM fans and thermal grizzly kryonaut cooling paste.

 

Stock CPU

 

My daily driver (4.25 GHz)

 

4.75 GHz that a lowed me to break the 1100 CB wall on X58.

 

Some more result of my system for those of interest.

 

How about M.2 NVMe SSD on X58.

 

Gaming performance for those who might know Final Fantasy benchmark.

[Ground]

13 hours ago, FlatBrokeRacing said:

well it took everything i could give it and then some and I DID IT, finally hit 1100cb score! impressive for some old ass hardware!

 

Now this isnt daily driveable at all, although temp wise it was ok LOL. I'm not running anything special, MX-4 thermal paste, Corsair H55 120mm AIO with the stock corsair fan, with a thermaltake Red Ring 120mm fan stacked on for Push/Pull. Of course on MAX speed/pump speed. 

 

right now i have it set to daily drive @ 4.6ghz 200blck and 23 multiplier @ 1.385 volts. may try to lower it abit...

 

now best to date single core 148, 1100 all cores @ 4.87ghz.

 

to put things in perspective, the 4.6ghz run will do 1050cb score easy. so not really much gained from .2v vcore and 270mhz core speed.

 

Your System isn't optimised that well, is it? I'm hitting 1112 cb at 4.75GHz

 

 

 

Also - quick tip for any BCLK beyond 220: Raise your PCIe clock and set QPI to slow mode; I've managed to hit 240-255 with most of my 32nm xeons, with my E5649 being the outlier at 269.65. Never really tried the max single core, but I can beat your 148 with another Xeon - my best E5640:

Sadly ran with unoptimised RAM timings for both of these and I don't have windows installed on my spare HDD. 

My Daily runs at 4.4 though; ~1036 cb multi core and 135 single core.

 

Note: This was with my old motherboard which was very limited in options; I'm pretty sure I could run Cinebench single core at ~5.2 with this CPU now if I really wanted to... 

[M300843499]

Thinking about going X5675.

[NoxiousOdor]

9 minutes ago, M300843499 said:

Thinking about going X5675.

The 5675 is a good cpu it still competes with modern stuff especially considering you can find them so inexpensively. The only downside to x58 is the powerdraw 

[kelvinhall05]

2 hours ago, FlatBrokeRacing said:

whats your vcore, and do you have temp overhead? I hit a wall, and just said **** it and typed in 30 higher, slapped Vcore at it and went for it. Before i was stuck around 180, i am now 100% stable at 200-210 with added vcore voltage. However 210 is the wall for me, I typed in 230 with low memory multiplier and slapped it with 1.55Vcore and a 20X cpu multiplier and nope, she just wont take it.  Also make sure you are not above what the memory is rated for and lower your QPI link speed to its lowest setting. 

 

@Zando Bob haha, biggest thing to watch is voltages. generally i'll do a quick google on what 'normal/max' voltages are for all the settings, and then take that with a grain of salt, and push it. but 4.4/4.5 is nothing to shake at thats a decent oc for sure!

I've got plenty of temp overhead, and my Vcore is at 1.38V.

[Zando_]

1 hour ago, M300843499 said:

Thinking about going X5675.

dewit. I have an X5675, and even at stock it's dope (mine is at 4.4GHz tho).

[FlatBrokeRacing]

1 hour ago, Ground said:

Your System isn't optimised that well, is it? I'm hitting 1112 cb at 4.75GHz

 

 

 

Also - quick tip for any BCLK beyond 220: Raise your PCIe clock and set QPI to slow mode; I've managed to hit 240-255 with most of my 32nm xeons, with my E5649 being the outlier at 269.65. Never really tried the max single core, but I can beat your 148 with another Xeon - my best E5640:

Sadly ran with unoptimised RAM timings for both of these and I don't have windows installed on my spare HDD. 

My Daily runs at 4.4 though; ~1036 cb multi core and 135 single core.

 

Note: This was with my old motherboard which was very limited in options; I'm pretty sure I could run Cinebench single core at ~5.2 with this CPU now if I really wanted to... 

Optimized? Its as optimized as i can get it to be with what i have right now, i wouldnt call 12cb points higher more optimized, I'm also running Dual channel memory not tripple right now as Its all i have at the moment and auto on the timings. I'm not "Done" pushing this system by any means. This was a quick i'm bored lets see where it goes.

 

PCIE clock is stock and qpi link is set low. I'll run down on the bios settings when i'm near the system again maybe we can figure out a round 2 for it when the memory arrives.

 

The scores these old chips hit are nothing to scoff at thats for sure, it hasnt beaten my 4790k yet but its devastated alot of stuff around it.

 

 

[Ground]

3 minutes ago, FlatBrokeRacing said:

12cb points higher

12 cb points higher at 150 MHz slower clock speed though... RAM timings (that I didn't care about back when I did that run) and NB speed make some difference for cinebench results.