General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Crunchy Dragon]

9 hours ago, Pasi123 said:

2x 32GB in dual channel

As a quad channel aficionado, this hurts my soul

[Zando_]

9 hours ago, Pasi123 said:

Cooler: DeepCool Assassin III

How does the air cooler handle it? I found my 280mm AIO could actually (mostly) handle up to 4.0GHz on my 7980XE. 

[Pasi123]

1 hour ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

As a quad channel aficionado, this hurts my soul

2x 32GB was cheaper than 4x 16GB and it leaves a bit more room to upgrade if I ever need 256GB RAM

 

1 hour ago, Zando_ said:

How does the air cooler handle it? I found my 280mm AIO could actually (mostly) handle up to 4.0GHz on my 7980XE. 

The temps are around 80-85C when pulling 250W on Cinebench. I haven't tried any actual overclocking yet, I've only changed the mesh to 3000MHz and played around with the power limit. With the power limit raised it seems to run at 4.5GHz all-core on non-AVX loads and most cores drop to around 4.2GHz under AVX loads

[Crunchy Dragon]

17 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

2x 32GB was cheaper than 4x 16GB and it leaves a bit more room to upgrade if I ever need 256GB RAM

That's fair.

 

How much would it have been for 4x16 or 8x8?

[Pasi123]

13 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

That's fair.

 

How much would it have been for 4x16 or 8x8?

The 2x 32GB 3200MHz Kingston Fury Beast kit was 155€ and the 4x 16GB version would have been 178€. The cheapest 4x 16GB 3200MHz kit is 162€ Corsair Vengeance LPX.

8x 8GB would have been 192€ for two 4x8 kits or 255€ for the cheapest actual 8x8 kit. I wouldn't want 8x8 anyway because there wouldn't be any room to upgrade, I often had over 60GB RAM usage on my X58 system which has 24GB physical + 120GB SSD for the page file. This time I'd prefer to have enough RAM to not need to constantly wear an SSD with the page file.

 

This is what the 120GB SSD health looks like after around 4 years of abuse

[Crunchy Dragon]

12 hours ago, Pasi123 said:

The 2x 32GB 3200MHz Kingston Fury Beast kit was 155€ and the 4x 16GB version would have been 178€.

Dang.

 

Last kit I bought was G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x16 DDR4-3200, paid just over $150 USD after taxes and shipping. That lives in my home server, since I could realistically upgrade to 128+GB in the future.
 

Haven't foreseen myself needing more than 64GB in my workstation before changing platforms, and because I found a really good deal on an 8x8GB kit of Corsair Dominator Platinums, I decided to just send it lol

[BlackDragon1971]

Broadwell-E to Cascade Lake ... 

Just did a platform upgrade yesterday evening. I went from a Broadwell-E Core i7 6850k to a Cascade Lake Core i9 10920x. The motherboard went from an ASUS x99 Deluxe II to an ASUS ROG Strix x299-E Gaming II.

Specs

Intel Core i9 10920x LGA 2066 CPU

ASUS ROG Strix x299-E Gaming II Motherboard

64 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2666 MHz RAM

2 TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe m.2 SSD (OS Drive)

1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe m.2 SSD (Scratch Drive)

1 TB WD Blue SATA III SSD

2x 6TB HGST DeskStar NAS HDD

EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Gaming 6 GB

Corsair RM1000i PSU

Corsair Hydro H150i ICUE RGB PRO XT

Lian Li 011 Dynamic Razer Edition case (pardon the smoke tar on glass... I quit smoking 3 weeks ago)

... and other bits

bought the new to me motherboard and CPU used off eBay for a good price. No Issues so far.

[BlackDragon1971]

Before I deep dive, any guesses as to the drivers I'm missing ?

I setup the Intel Core i9 10920x and ASUS ROG Strix x299-E Gaming II motherboard the other day. Running Windows 11 Pro 23H2.

When installing the chipset drivers and ME drivers, the 3rd thing that didn't install was Intel Turbo Boost MAX Technology. It said it wasn't capable of being installed on this Operating System.... maybe it's hardware related to that or something else...

I've been able to figure out Broadwell-E hardware configs... LGA 2066 is new to me.

Any suggestions ...???

 

BlackDragon

[CommanderAlex]

2 minutes ago, BlackDragon1971 said:

was Intel Turbo Boost MAX Technology. It said it wasn't capable of being installed on this Operating System.... maybe it's hardware related to that or something else...

They don't work anymore as there's a vulnerability so hackers can hack through via that software...something like that from when I had a X299 system and Intel canned the whole thing. 

[BlackDragon1971]

2 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

They don't work anymore as there's a vulnerability so hackers can hack through via that software...something like that from when I had a X299 system and Intel canned the whole thing. 

I seem to remember reading about that... okay, thx.

[CommanderAlex]

Just now, BlackDragon1971 said:

I seem to remember reading about that... okay, thx.

No problem! Yeah when I was on it, I tried to install it after wiping Windows and it wouldn't allow me to install and further investigation came across that. 

[BlackDragon1971]

Just now, CommanderAlex said:

No problem! Yeah when I was on it, I tried to install it after wiping Windows and it wouldn't allow me to install and further investigation came across that. 

Nice to know other folks experiences

[BlackDragon1971]

When I did the platform upgrade, I plopped in my 970 EVO Plus with the previous OS install on it. It was about 3 years installed and bloated. So I started with a fresh bare metal install last night.... still tweaking...

[Crunchy Dragon]

28 minutes ago, BlackDragon1971 said:

When I did the platform upgrade, I plopped in my 970 EVO Plus with the previous OS install on it. It was about 3 years installed and bloated. So I started with a fresh bare metal install last night.... still tweaking...

I've gotten faster over the years, but it still takes me a few days before I have a fresh OS install fully dialed into how I want things. I'm still discovering new configurations in my browser alone that I want to tweak.

 

One day, I'll just make a full checklist of everything I configure on a fresh system so I can run through that instead of needing to rely on memory...

[the pudding]

On 11/6/2023 at 8:24 PM, Zando_ said:

How does the air cooler handle it? I found my 280mm AIO could actually (mostly) handle up to 4.0GHz on my 7980XE. 

I had decent luck overclocking my 7980XE on air, was able to get 4.4 on an AK620 so this should handle pretty well I'd reckon

[the pudding]

The W3175X build is slowly coming together, got the aforementioned 3175X in the post yesterday, most of my water bits should be here tomorrow if DHL is to be believed and my coldzero trays/bits are in production now 

[Slayer3032]

Figure I'd bump the old thread with my recent X58 stuffs since LTT posted a video with the SR2, shame they didn't try setting affinity the same way all the new hybrid platforms have to.

 

I pulled the EVGA E758 out of the spare tower corner it's been living in since the board is all tweaked from having one of those Arctic plastic mount coolers on it for probably 15 years and I just can't get it to read the third memory channel. I can see the dimms there and connected but the system just doesn't use it. I picked up a new cooler that advertised 1366/775 support, both of which I have a few boards for. Of course, this was just an incorrect amazon listing. Whatever, it was $13 and my 212 LED that's going into the trash the next time I touch it because it's drawn more blood than any other PC part I've ever owned had a MIR to be $15. Whenever Noctua releases their new D15 cooler I'll give it another shot with the NH-D14 before it goes into the home server to see if a proper backplate resolves the issue.

 

Had to destructively remove the Arctic cooler because one of the pull clips snapped. New cooler obviously then didn't end up fitting so I tossed my stock i7 930 cooler on it and I really don't remember it running this cool with the i7, maybe I just have really bad memories of my Pentium D and I stuck a NH-D14 on it day 1. Temps look really decent on the X5670. It's still missing the third channel though, which is an issue my Gigabyte board had for a while but a reseat fixed. I might have to try it with an i7 again but with how bowed the board is around the socket area at the top edge I don't have high hopes.

 

I also stuck a GTX 970 into the old X58 setup, it's just slipping through on it's 550w PSU as it pulls almost exactly 500w under P95/Furmark at the wall. I'll call that build well optimized lmao. The SX8200 Pro that I had used in it but transferred to my personal Ryzen build has also returned after it experienced some file corruption which prompted me to check the old SM951 128GB. Upon getting a BTRFS scrub the drive decided it's to cease functioning entirely. I have it setup for wake on lan and I generally remote into it. I have noticed the random reboots starting to sneak in when it runs like an OBS stream for half a day but still pushing 4680mhz on single thread at 1.425v, I'll just blame it on latest 550 nvidia linux driver/nvenc which broke my suspend/wol as well. It usually isn't in the neglected tower storage corner but where it normally lives has some Haswell junk I was testing some TrueNAS Scale stuff on recently.

 

I keep looking around for worthwhile upgrades for X58 home server as well but most everything seems like an increase in power consumption or a steep decrease in available pci-e lanes. $20 used nvmes are just so tempting! LGA2011-3 stuff looks fun but I don't have a spare box of DDR4 just laying around like I do DDR3. Feature creep sets in and then IPMI would be great so I don't have to remove an nvme for a GT1030 to configure the boot order because the HBA decides it's more important after a few years and a power loss. Utilizing all of the pci-e slots and lanes right away isn't appealing. Newer built in board features and what do I really need vs. want. Splitting my VM off into a separate SFF box instead, oh look now I need a switch and 10g SFP+ sounds fun.

 

Ehhh, it's still doing it's job perfectly fine and it could probably use some larger drives again instead.

[Kilrah]

Wee, a Gigabyte X58A... mine's still getting occasional use when I need a temporary host for hardware for some operations like imaging a drive or such, but both that and my X99 board are WAY too inefficient to be in permanent use at >150W idle even at stock. 7th gen server does 20-30W...

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 hour ago, Kilrah said:

Wee, a Gigabyte X58A... mine's still getting occasional use when I need a temporary host for hardware for some operations like imaging a drive or such, but both that and my X99 board are WAY too inefficient to be in permanent use at >150W idle even at stock. 7th gen server does 20-30W...

I'm quite scared to see how much power my home server draws on average....

 

Probably gonna downsize to a NUC or something in a couple years.